May 9

CJ Thorpe

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The result of the discussion wasdelete with the suggestion that disambiguation may be needed in future if substantial mentions of any of these potential targets actually come to exist on en-wiki. As it stands there does not appear to be enough content at any of the targets to actually satisfy any potential reader, with the non-trivial number of borderline-notable CJ Thorpes, the rough consensus here is to avoid pretending we actually have worthwhile coverage of any of them. The search results may be the best option. ~mazca^talk22:57, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• CJ Thorpe →Star Wars (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target article.OcelotCreeper (talk)17:26, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambiguate (1^st choice), since this term is ambiguous (aGoogle search on the name reveals the first results are for a Penn State University football player, but I don't know if he's notable enough for an article, and it could also refer to the bassist ofBombay Monkey or possibly a writer ofThe Quietus (in which case his name is CJ Thorpe-Tracey) mentioned atMaking a New World#Present Day),weak retarget toBombay Monkey as an{{R from member}} (2^nd choice; this is its bassist's name),super weak retarget toStar Wars (film)#Development (3^rd choice; a character by that name is mentioned there as the narrator of an early draft titledJournal of the Whillis), ordelete (4^th choice) if none of these work. On a side note, I had a classmate by that name back in high school. Regards,SONIC67818:06, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget toBombay Monkey per Sonic, as the ionly substantive mention in enwiki.Shhhnotsoloud (talk)14:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as only a mention in the Bombay Monkey article, hardly any mention at Star Wars or the author.AngusWOOF (bark •sniff)21:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, per nom and AngusWOOF.CycloneYoris^talk!23:48, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Teletherapy

Toyota 89CV

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. In the absence of significant information at the current or suggested targets, participants feel a redlink to encourage article creation is preferred. ~mazca^talk23:02, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Toyota 89CV →Toyota (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This appears to be the name of a racecar that currently has no article. Propose retarget toToyota 88C-V until (or if) an article is created.TheAwesomeHwyh21:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - According toWP:REDIRECT andWP:REDLINK, if the article does not exist yet then we should not have a redirect to some place that doesn't describe it just to avoid a red link. Instead, the red link provides hints to potential editors that here is something that they can create with their knowledge of the subject. Since the redirect toToyota doesn't actually tell you anything about the race car, the current redirect is actually giving you no information about it and hiding the invitation to write a proper article for it. Stepho  talk 22:56, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete for now. At this time, there's no good place to point this. If we had an article on the car, the correct title would beToyota 89C-V. -Eureka Lott03:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Deep Depression

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The result of the discussion wasretarget toDepression.(non-admin closure)feminist | wear a mask, protect everyone04:08, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Deep DepressionDeep Depression →Tropical cyclone#Tropical depression (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Deep depressionDeep depression →Tropical cyclone#Tropical depression (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not sure what to do with this one. Mentioned at target article, but this seems to refer toMajor depressive disorder and similar topics as much or more than it does for hurricanes.Hog Farm (talk)16:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget per nom and add the{{for}} template there.CrazyBoy826 (talk)17:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• "Deep Depression" is an official term used in classifying the intensity of tropical cyclones (seeTropical_cyclone#Intensity_classifications), so the redirect should remain. However "deep depression" is not, and it would make more sense to redirect it toMajor depressive disorder as suggested.Colonies Chris (talk)19:00, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Colonies Chris: I fail to see how Deep Depression and deep depression are both not an official term used in classifying the intensity of tropical cyclones, after all, they are the same thing. However, do we really need the redirects, I dont think so.Jason Rees (talk)15:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Jason Rees: Take a look at{{India Meteorological Department's Tropical Cyclone Intensity Scale}}. The capitalised forms are official designations with specific meanings. Whereas the uncapitalised form is just an informal description with no specifically defined meaning.Colonies Chris (talk)19:26, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget as the usage medically is more important than the tropical cyclone one.Noah^Talk12:34, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• I think they should both be redirected toDepression, which currently serves as a dab. I don't think we should have different redirects depending on capitalization. ♫Hurricanehink (talk)18:12, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget "Deep Depression" toTropical cyclone scales#North Indian Ocean, where there is a brief explanation about the official term used for tropical cyclones. And thenRetarget "deep depression" toMajor depressive disorder as the nominator suggests.CycloneYoris^talk!00:16, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree - this is an improvement on my suggestion above.Colonies Chris (talk)07:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget both to DAB pageDepression. The preceding discussion shows that the expression is ambiguous. It would be a very bad idea to have different targets for different capitalisations, which would land users randomly on different pages.Narky Blert (talk)08:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget both toDepression DAB per Narky Blert. Radically different targets for different normal capitalisations are worth avoiding, and this really seems to be reasonably used for a substantial version of either common meaning of "depression". ~mazca^talk23:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget both toDepression per Narky and mazca._signed,Rosguill^talk23:03, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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NeoCon

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The result of the discussion wasretarget toNeoconservatism._signed,Rosguill^talk22:56, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• NeoConNeoCon →Merchandise Mart#Trade fairs (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Is a trade fair that doesn't even have its own article a more plausible search term thanneoconservatism?pbp21:24, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget toneoconservatism.neocon already redirects to neoconservatism, andNeoCon could be a hypothetical alternate capitalization of theclipping for neoconservatism. Although this specific capitalization seems to be rare for neoconservatism specifically (after a brief Google search), it does receive some daily views (all pageviews mentioned are sourced from theWikimedia Foundation Toolforge Pageviews Tool). Since January 2020, the redirect has received about 7 views per day, with no noticeable increase between March 17-20, 2020, which was the date range of NeoCon 2020's postponement and cancellation that received a fair amount of press (here,here, andhere, for example). If most users were using theNeoCon redirect for the event, one would likely expect an increase during that time, although there does not seem to be any.K^{ʜᴜ'ʜᴀᴍɢᴀʙᴀ}K^{ɪᴛᴀᴘ(parlez ici)}13:29, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget It appears to be a plausible contraction of neoconservatism and page views show that it is beating searched. Also, based on the fact that during the time the trade show was announced to be cancelled there was no change in page views it strongly indicates that it’s not the trade show that people typing the term meoVon are looking for.--69.157.252.96 (talk)07:07, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per the above and amend the hatnote atneoconservatism accordingly. – Arms & Hearts (talk)21:30, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Supermarket News

Akira Fubuki

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The result of the discussion wasdelete --JHunterJ (talk)13:49, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Akira Fubuki →Fubuki (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

While there originally was an entry for Akira Fubuki at the target disambiguation page, the entry was simply circularly linked to this redirect, and does not belong on that page perWP:DABRED. I would suggest deletion._signed,Rosguill^talk20:49, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nominator. Not mentioned anywhere in English Wikipedia, andher Japanese Wikipedia article provides no evidence of notability. (NSFW, don't Google her name.)59.149.124.29 (talk)03:54, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Not mentioned in English WP. Circular redirects anywhere are a confounded nuisance, and ones to DAB page something more than that.Narky Blert (talk)08:17, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Li Changgeng

Direxion

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The result of the discussion wasProcedural close I'm closing this despite being involved, as due to the creation of an article at this redirect, any discussion of the redirect is moot._signed,Rosguill^talk22:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Direxion →Exchange-traded fund#Leveraged ETFs (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target, I would suggest deletion. I see that this was originally created as an article and then converted to a redirect by the same editor 5 minutes later; if need be, we can procedurally close this discussion, restore the article, and proceed to an AfD discussion._signed,Rosguill^talk20:23, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think deleting this would be beneficial?Benjamin (talk)22:00, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

When a reader types the name of a company into Wikipedia's search bar, they should get some explicit information about that company, not be sent to an article on a general class of products that doesn't mention the company at all. At best this leaves the reader, who is probably coming to Wikipedia because they know little about the company and need an introduction from the very basics, to guess that the company does some kind of business related to this product (but what kind of business? provider? commentator? auditor?). At worst this leads to mistaken inferences (e.g. "the company offers only this type of product and no others"). Search results (Special:Search/~Direxion) are always more informative than such a redirect.59.149.124.29 (talk)07:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget todirection à lainflexion. --Soumyabrata^talk_contribs^subpages08:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Close and don't bother with AfD restored the article below the redirect, and expanded it.59.149.124.29 (talk)07:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Direxion has arguably the most notable stable of ETFs on the market, with RS discussion almost every day.--2601:444:380:8C00:E8D5:BE09:A38:7DE6 (talk)08:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above.Benjamin (talk)09:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Pribyslavitz

10 Things You Need to Know About Losing Weight

HMS Javelin (F12)

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The result of the discussion wasdelete._signed,Rosguill^talk22:53, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• HMS Javelin (F12) →HMS Kashmir (F12) (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redirects toHMS Kashmir, but there's no indication, either in that article or in the top google results, that the Kashmir was ever named Javelin at any time, or that any such entity as "HMS Javelin F12" ever existed.

There's another Javelin (HMS Javelin (F61)), and "HMS Javelin" alone redirects to her.

It's a problem because searching on "HMS Javelin" brings up both the real Javelin and this redirect to Kashmir in the search results, and its confusing. If and when sourced material is written into the article showing that the Kashmire was ever named Javelin, then this redirect can be recreated, and possiblyHMS Javelin made into a disambig page.Herostratus (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)Herostratus (talk)18:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I believe that the two ships swapped names while under construction, but I don't enough of a possibility of confusing the two to warrant a redirect.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk)19:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. In any case, a redirect to an article that doesn't then explain why you're there is confusing.Shhhnotsoloud (talk)18:20, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Fooball

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The result of the discussion wasdelete. ~Amory(u •t •c)14:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Fooball →Football (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Implausible typo - seethis andthis.CrazyBoy826 (talk)17:13, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: this could easily be confused betweenFootball,Foosball, andGooball.CrazyBoy826(talk |contribs)21:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Or is it “im-pausable”? However, the linked discussions were about its use in disambiguators and other context while this is the single word itself.1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)20:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @1234qwer1234qwer4: But this was created after the above discussions were made.CycloneYoris^talk!21:11, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. In fact it should bespeedy deleted per its recent creation. Can be easily confused withFoosball, so it’s misleading and unnecessary.CycloneYoris^talk!20:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Plausible typo and redirects are cheap.Walter Görlitz (talk)20:48, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete Per the previous RfDs linked, but part of me does think that it is somewhat plausible. -CHAMPION^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)}23:44, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per CycloneYoris.—Naddruf (talk ~contribs)05:34, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, tentatively – it is slightly ambiguous but should be used enough to outweigh that ambiguity.Hardly implausible; there's eventhis.— J947^[cont]05:45, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete. Ambiguous misspelling (foosball,football orgooball?), redirect created (possiblyWP:POINTedly having regard to recent discussions here) on 9 May 2020.Narky Blert (talk)08:51, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Ambiguous misspellings have no value. —Xezbeth (talk)14:49, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as ambiguous (though it's slightly more plausible as a misspelling forfootball than forfoosball). –Uanfala (talk)15:13, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included inWikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions.GiantSnowman15:23, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - not needed, ambiguous.GiantSnowman15:24, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom.KingSkyLord (talk |contribs)20:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and is subject toWP:XY (Foosball vsFootball). If you really want to keep the redirect, then consider disambiguating it, but it is not that useful. --Soumyabrata^talk_contribs^subpages04:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom andWP:XY --DannyS712 (talk)06:56, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Planck rotational inertia

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The result of the discussion wasalready speedily deleted.(non-admin closure)1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)17:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Planck rotational inertia →Planck units#Derived units (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Planck specific heat capacity →Planck units#Derived units (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Planck thermal conductivity →Planck units#Derived units (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Planck torque →Planck units#Derived units (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Planck electrical conductivity →Planck units#Derived units (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Implausible redirects created by Ahri6279 who is globally blockedCrazyBoy826 (talk)17:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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V*

Ford

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The result of the discussion wasprocedural close. Wrong forum: this is a move request. -Eureka Lott17:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Ford →Ford Motor Company (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A common last name and plenty of notable people with this last name includingRob Ford andGerald Ford🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk)16:31, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Anime and Manga

4-sphere

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The result of the discussion waskeep. No prejudice against refining ~Amory(u •t •c)14:24, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• 4-sphere4-sphere →N-sphere (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Either refine to the sectionN-sphere#Specific spheres or retarget toFive-dimensional space#Hypersphere.1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)14:42, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• My preference goes toN-sphere#Specific spheres as the new target.Pichpich (talk)14:45, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as it is, perWP:LEAST: A reader should not be surprised by the replacement of 4 by N, but most readers may be surprised to not getting the definition of a 4-sphere, and getting instead a technical specific property (there is no definition in the first proposed target; the second proposed target contains a definition, but it does not apply to 4-spheres that are not embedded in the five-dimensional space).D.Lazard (talk)16:20, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as is. LikeD.Lazard, I think the current target is less confusing that the proposed alternative.XOR'easter (talk)18:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, otherwiseRetarget toN-sphere#Specific spheres: It should definitely point to the N-sphere article instead of the 5-dimensional space article, since the former has much more information relevant to the properties of the 4-sphere (namely properties that are true for all n-spheres). Ambivalent about whether it should point at the section, with a slight preference for the general article perD.Lazard. —MarkH₂₁^talk18:22, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Jaime ellis

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The result of the discussion wasdelete perWP:CSD#G10King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠19:36, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Jaime ellis →Infidelity (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

WP:R#DELETE nonsense, unsure what this means or how it relates to the target. -CHAMPION^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)}11:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - it looks like an indirect attack page.Ingratis (talk)11:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete there isJamie Ellis, but I think retargeting there is a bad idea, given the wrong capitalisation, different spelling, and the attack that would remain in the history.59.149.124.29 (talk)11:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete implausible typo and capitalisation error.CrazyBoy826 (talk)23:41, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Tagal, Indonesia

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The result of the discussion wasdelete --JHunterJ (talk)13:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Tagal, Indonesia →Tegal (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

• Tagal, Indonesia (disambiguation) →Tegal (disambiguation) (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I don't know if "Tagal" is a common misspelling for the Indonesian place (Tegal city or relatedTegal Regency). If it is thenTagal, Indonesia can be kept.Tagal, Indonesia (disambiguation), however, serves no purpose.Shhhnotsoloud (talk)09:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete It is not common to spell Tegal with Tagal --Tensa Februari (talk)06:25, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The Samsung Group

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The result of the discussion waskeep.(non-admin closure)feminist | wear a mask; protect everyone04:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• The Samsung GroupThe Samsung Group →Samsung (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• The Sony CorporationThe Sony Corporation →Sony (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unlikely search term, we don't have similar formatted redirects likeThe Microsoft Corporation,The Google Inc.,The Apple Inc, etc. -CHAMPION^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)}02:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep perWP:CHEAP, and tag as{{unprintworthy}}.Narky Blert (talk)05:42, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, there are nothing wrong with these redirects. The fact that other redirects don't exist is irrelevant. I thinkThe Microsoft Corporation would make a good redirect, but the Inc. ones don't make sense. --Tavix^(talk)21:16, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above. -Flori4nKT A L K02:37, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above.CrazyBoy826 (talk)16:06, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Cortirion

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The result of the discussion wasno consensus._signed,Rosguill^talk08:36, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• CortirionCortirion →The Silmarillion#Development of the text (talk ·links ·history ·stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article, delete unless justification and/or mention is provided.Hog Farm (talk)18:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's an early name forValinor#Tirion, so we could have a mention there if anyone thinks it worthwhile. Apparently it turned into the real town ofWarwick.Chiswick Chap (talk)18:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Happineſs