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The result waskeep. And copyright violation has been removed and those edits revision deleted.Liz^Read!Talk!22:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Frederick Hall (actor) (edit |talk |history |protect |delete |links |watch |logs |views) – (View log |edits since nomination)

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FailsWP:GNG andWP:NACTOR. Article sourced to only imdb, I was unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources. Actor appears to have only appeared in minor roles as well.W4221:20, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Has now been updated with reference to obituary inThe Stage, a popular publication which gives obituaries to well-noted and regarded actors. Aside from Emmerdale, his notable roles are in shows which don't have articles created (A Question of Guilt and Curtain of Fear).2A00:23C6:D88E:8901:D53B:E0CC:C329:4335 (talk)09:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • One obituary in a tabloid is insufficient to passWP:GNG.W4213:02, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in thedeletion sorting lists for the following topics:Actors and filmmakers,Television, andEngland.W4221:20, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • • The Stage isn't a tabloid. They are a respectable weekly magazine (published for 142 years) which provides coverage of theatre in the UK with independent critical reviews. They also cover television and film. It's similar toVariety.4meter4 (talk)13:36, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Keep: I'd be interested to see just how substantial the obituary referred to above is. There is alsothis reference regarding the subject's appearance in anOn the Buses episode. He appeared in many TV series, but it's questionable whether he gets over the line forWP:NACTOR. At this point, I'll err on the side of caution, but may update my position.Dflaw4 (talk)16:03, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,Liz^Read!Talk!22:40, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep but copyright violation needs fixing. I have access to the obit through PROQUEST at my university. There is also a lot of theatre reviews of his performances in the 1950s and 1960s inThe Stage and some inVariety available in PROQUEST. Certainly enough significant coverage to passWP:NACTOR. However, half of the obituary is copy pasted into the article word for word. The copyrighted text reads, "After spending his early years working in the oil industry overseas, Hall entered the acting profession through amateur theatre in Wolverhampton and Central School. This in turn led to him becoming a valued member of repertory and regional companies, notably at Pitlochry, Lincoln and Chesterfield followed by numerous TV credits. The actor also worked for Equity, inspiring others to sustain an career in acting. Fred sadly died in a London hospice, a few months after the passing of Dora, his wife of 31 years." This is a copyright violation. The obit does have an attributed author though, Graham Lines, so this was not a paid for death notice but a by-lined obit by a staff writer.4meter4 (talk)13:58, 18 October 2022 (UTC):[reply]

Comment copyvio has been removed and tagged for selective revdel.Jip Orlando (talk)14:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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