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New Page on Deceased K-pop Stars?/I Submitted New Article

Would a page for deceased Korean idols be valid on wikipedia? Also, resubmitted 2005 in south korean music:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:2005_in_South_Korean_Music-76.174.35.70 (talk)01:46, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@76.174.35.70: Idols is a subjective term, the article would have to be backed up by significant reliable secondary sources. With that said, I do not really understand what you mean. Do you mean that the article would list them or? --TheSandDoctor (talk)03:29, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes, the article would be a list:
Name, Group (what group they were in. if they weren't in one, then put "none."), Date of Death, Cause of death (suicide, murder, drug overdose, car accident, etc.) and Additonal notes (where they add interesting facts such as awards won, or they can add how their death happened. Like in the case of suicide, what caused it.)-76.174.35.70 (talk)14:31, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Also, fixed 2005 article and it's resubmitted.-76.174.35.70 (talk)14:42, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
@76.174.35.70: If you were to make said article, I would limit its scope to those who already have pre-existing articles - even then it would need references. I also would wonder if a category linking the existing articles would be better? Would have to have a different name than "deceased Korean idols" though as "idols" is a subjective term. --TheSandDoctor (talk)16:37, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
is my 2005 article ok?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:2005_in_South_Korean_Music-76.174.35.70 (talk)03:31, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
@76.174.35.70: To be honest, I am hesitant - partly due to referencing but also largely due to the fact that I am unfamiliar with the genre of music and theonly reason I reviewed it is due to the fact that you linked it here and that I some improper references. I have removed some sources from it and replaced them with citation needed templates as they were not reliable (blogspot etc.) but I will let another reviewer review it. I personally would like to see more references from different reputable sources. Currently more than a third of the references are to jpopasia.com (which may not be an issue, I am not familiar with the genre). I would prefer to leave/defer the review to someone who is more knowledgeable about that genre and can give the draft a proper in-depth evaluation. --TheSandDoctor (talk)03:35, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

ok. what about Cyndago?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cyndago-76.174.35.70 (talk)04:15, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

The Academy at Penguin Hall

Thanks for your feedback. I have added references...don't know how I forgot that. Let me know what you think. Thank you.Deanjt (talk)13:43, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

@Deanjt: No problem! I am glad that I was able to help. --TheSandDoctor (talk)07:53, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Question from Raj Singh NiranjanTILA]]

Dear Sir,I want to know about my article (Biography) mistakes that I can improve and post on Wikipedia. Please tell me about the mistakes and how to improve the article— Precedingunsigned comment added byRaj Singh NiranjanTILA (talkcontribs)07:49, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

@Raj Singh NiranjanTILA: Hello there! I am just wondering, what article are you referring to? I have looked at your contributions on that account (Raj Singh NiranjanTILA) and the edit you made to my talk page is the only one? --TheSandDoctor (talk)07:53, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Bus Songs

Hello! Your submission ofThe Bus Songs at theDid You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneathyour nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!SL93 (talk)22:26, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Issue with DYK

Hello! Your submission ofVideo game walkthrough at theDid You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneathyour nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!ZXCVBNM (TALK)12:29, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

10:02:14, 11 July 2017 review of submission by Zackraab107

Hi again, I saved all the changes to the article about a week ago, following your instructions and citation guidelines from above as best I could. I tweaked the "History" section so it doesn't sound promotional anymore and I added more sources all throughout the article as additional support. I used similar company's approved articles (Blue Nile (company), Brilliant Earth, Ritani, and Robbins Brothers) as guides for writing the James Allen page throughout this process - I figured that was a smart way to approach it. If you could please look it over again, I'd appreciate it. If it's good enough now for approval, that would be fantastic. If it's still not, every suggestion you can give is very helpful! Thanks.Zackraab107 (talk)10:02, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@Zackraab107: Sorry for my delay in response (I thought I had responded back in July), however, I would suggest referring to the AfC comments left by SwisterTwister on the draft. --TheSandDoctor (talk)06:20, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
@TheSandDoctor: Hi again. I had wondered where you disappeared to after giving me good advice along the way. No worries about the delay at all, I really appreciate you taking the time to get back to me! So I have reached a bit of an unfortunate impasse given the effort I put towards tinkering with the article according to your initial suggestions to make sure it fit the Wiki standards. These are the sources I was able to compile and I was pretty sure it would be enough to be considered notable and properly sourced, and no longer promotional-sounding. I have taken into account the comments left by SwisterTwister and removed three sources, but any chance you could look it over once more please and point out any sources that are not up to the Wiki standard or any sentences that aren't supported enough or sound too promotional which, if removed/shortened, would allow the article to be approved? I strongly believe in the notability of James Allen, similar to the other companies I listed to you in my previous comment, so I'd really appreciate a final bit of guidance if you'd be so kind. Thank you!Zackraab107 (talk)07:51, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

13:02:16, 17 July 2017 review of submission by Wkg1974

Please would you look again at the article I wrote a few weeks ago. I have (re)researched the piece a great deal and added numerous references and other data. Many thanks

@Wkg1974: Sorry for the delay in my response, I will leave this for another reviewer's opinion on it as a fresh set of eyes to it is most likely a good thing. Hopefully it will be reviewed soon. --TheSandDoctor (talk)06:40, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

08:55:44, 12 August 2017 review of submission by Timewilson61


please let me know if the current edit which includes up to date reference to current news reports, meets the wikipedia criteria for referencing.Tim Wilson

Hi thereTimewilson61! Thank you for reaching out to me, the draft needs to show why Aidan Powlesland is significant to his field. With that said, I feel that you are off to a decent start, however, I would also like to see more inline citations (ie entire Political Views section only has one citation at the very end). Hopefully this is helpful to you and if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask and I will respond as quickly as possible. --TheSandDoctor (talk)06:14, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Resubmit

Dear SnadDoctor,
Hi, thank you for your help and advises. As per your guidance, I added some independent references tothis article, could you please publish it after reviewing these changes. also I would like to inform you this subject has article in other wiki and you can find ithere. thank you so much for your time and help in advance. regards --Déjà vu(Talk)00:25, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi thereDejaVu! Thank you for reaching out to me. The draft still needs to demonstrate why Manshour Varasteh is significant to his field. Hopefully this is helpful to you and if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask and I will respond as quickly as possible. --TheSandDoctor (talk)06:14, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for The Bus Songs

On15 August 2017,Did you know was updated with a fact from the articleThe Bus Songs, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was... that the "Whacky Tobaccy" music video from theToby Keith albumThe Bus Songs contains a cameo appearance byWillie Nelson? The nomination discussion and review may be seen atTemplate:Did you know nominations/The Bus Songs. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page(here's how,The Bus Songs), and it may be added tothe statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on theDid you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk01:32, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

YourGA nomination ofThe Rolling Stones

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the articleThe Rolling Stones you nominated forGA-status according to thecriteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period.Message delivered byLegobot, on behalf ofRitchie333 --Ritchie333 (talk)21:41, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

A quick note about theHyde Park article; basically that's ageneral overview of the park, including all aspects of it and a full history, and while live music is worth a mention, it's only really designed to be a short summary. The real "meat" of who played there and when goes inList of concerts in Hyde Park. Unfortunately that article isn't very well developed at the moment - but that might be an opportunity for you to improve it :-)Ritchie333(talk)(cont)20:16, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Resubmission request

The references provided in the article by me in my recent edit are all that I have with me to furnish.If these references are not enough , please let me know the other options to get my article published.

with the current available references what information do I have to remove or edit, in order to get it accepted.— Precedingunsigned comment added byPavanmaverick (talkcontribs)12:01, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

@Pavanmaverick: The citations should not be all at the bottom of the draft as they are currently, they should be spread out beside the information that they support. As for the references, I do not feel that there is enough there as generally there needs to be some coverage from major independent sources (typically news) and a claim of significance. As for opinions, at the moment all I can suggest is to continue to look for sources or ask for help atthe Teahouse. --TheSandDoctor (talk)20:46, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Gotta Get a Grip (Mick Jagger song)

On17 August 2017,Did you know was updated with a fact from the articleGotta Get a Grip (Mick Jagger song), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was... that "Gotta Get a Grip" is one of two new singles byMick Jagger, his first solo material since the albumGoddess in the Doorway was released in 2001? The nomination discussion and review may be seen atTemplate:Did you know nominations/Gotta Get a Grip (Mick Jagger song). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page(here's how,Gotta Get a Grip (Mick Jagger song)), and it may be added tothe statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on theDid you know talk page.

Alex ShihTalk01:04, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Million award!

The Million Award
For your contributions to bringThe Rolling Stones (estimated annual readership:2,599,000) toGood Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers!Ritchie333(talk)(cont)16:23, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Request on 16:51:38, 22 August 2017 for assistance onAfC submission by Murumaheswaran

How do I reference newspaper articles that are not on line. I have PDF copies of them.

Murumaheswaran (talk)16:51, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

@Murumaheswaran: Please see something likethis. --TheSandDoctor (talk)03:33, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Video game walkthrough

On28 August 2017,Did you know was updated with a fact from the articleVideo game walkthrough, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was... thatvideo game walkthroughs are typically designed to assist other players in accomplishing certain feats within video games? The nomination discussion and review may be seen atTemplate:Did you know nominations/Video game walkthrough. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page(here's how,Video game walkthrough), and it may be added tothe statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on theDid you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk·contribs)00:03, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

03:03:02, 30 August 2017 review of submission by Gayasianarthistory


I have re-written an article on M Woods Museum in Beijing carefully citing the quotations I use, and have in fact used many more citations than, say, the page dedicated to the Sifang museum. I'm not sure why these references are not considered enough or why there is a constant complaint that there is some copy right infringement going on.

@Gayasianarthistory: Hi there! Please refer tothis edit on your talk page made byjmcgnh, they sum it up accurately. As an admin once posted on my talk page in response to another user, just because a "bad" page exists, does not mean that we should go around creating more of them, if you think thatSifang Art Museum should be deleted,nominate it for deletion! (seeOther Stuff Exists). The issue I raised and that was echoed by jmcgnh is that the references are not adequate (though they are a start - again, see the edit by jmcgnh for more details), then add more references. Always work towards the betterment of Wikipedia! --TheSandDoctor (talk)04:59, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

YourGA nomination ofTumbling Dice

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the articleTumbling Dice you nominated forGA-status according to thecriteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period.Message delivered byLegobot, on behalf ofAdityavagarwal --Adityavagarwal (talk)06:40, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

YourGA nomination ofMick Jagger

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the articleMick Jagger you nominated forGA-status according to thecriteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period.Message delivered byLegobot, on behalf ofRitchie333 --Ritchie333 (talk)14:40, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Your submission atArticles for creation:Ali-A has been accepted

Ali-A, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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SwisterTwistertalk03:00, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Your submission atArticles for creation:MrBossFTW has been accepted

MrBossFTW, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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