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Hi Sa.vakilianHi

During the last few months, I had some time off, so I looked at the pages relating to Islam on wikipedia. Over the last few years, a lot of incorrect material against Islam has built up on Wikipedia. I went through thousands of books in the London School of Oriental and African Studies library and on the internet. Looked through Sunni, Shia and the Roman books from that period. There is a lot of material on Wikipedia about Islam that is totally incorrect. One just has to look at the pages "Islamic views on slavery", "Muhammad and slavery" and "Ma malakat aymanukum". Even people Muhammad cared for deeply and provided for through the Bait Al Mall charity have been presented as slaves on wikipedia. Unfortunately the Muslims on Wikipedia spend more time fighting each other and discrediting people from the early history of Islam like Ali and Abu Bakr than they do actually going through wikipedia and correcting the incorrect material on Wikipedia that is in many cases totally incorrect and against Islam. In the process, unfortunately these arguments, give Muhammad and Islam a very bad name. I looked into Ali's family and Abu Bakrs family and realised that many early Scholars like Jafar al Sadiq and Qasim his grandfather from his mother side are as much related to Ali as they are to Abu Bakr. Ali even raised Abu Bakrs son Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr. Muslims are best off showing Ali's knowledge on the Ali's page and his scholarly achievements and his character. Fights between the Shias and the Sunnis give a very bad impression of Ali, Muhammad and Islam. The same is true on all the other Islam pages. Pushing sectarian views just gives a bad impression of Islam. Many of these views are based on history books written hundreds of years after the events and are exaggerated. Even Al Tabri and Nahj al-Balagha were history book written 300 years later. People ignore the Quran but concentrate on history books that were written 300 years later. Many of the conflicts on wikipedia are over the land at Fadak. Considering the level of resistance Muhammad was having at the time, I am sure many people at the time of Muhammad would have been saying Muhammad invented a religion to enrich his family. He took away the land from the Jews in Madina and gave it to his family members. Many people these days would then have said the same. You only get a complete picture once you read through the Sunni, Shia and the Roman books from the period. It was a tragic story of the Arabs going into Syria and Iraq that had just gone through the Byzantine-Sassanid Wars. Many people in Syria and Iraq hated each other. After going in, the Arabs from the desert started getting tempted by money and wealth in Syria and Iraq. What started as a small thing of Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr showing the Egyptians the house of Authman ended with Marwan and the Kawarij manipulating every one and a huge loss of life. Cousins fighting one another. Ali had a very difficult situation on his hand. Just image what was going through the minds of Hassan and Husein. Its a very tragic story, a lesson to all of us, a choice between Money and children or God. Aisha later realised she had been manipulated. When Marwan became the governor of Madina you could see the tensions between Aisha and Marwan. Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr and Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr were both killed by the umayyads. Later there were very close links between Abu Bakrs family and Alis family. Jafar al sadiq is a result of that. Its better to make the effort and find the truth, even if it hurts ones views and is contrary to ones views. If you have some time please look at the pages "Islamic views on slavery", "Muhammad and slavery" and "Ma malakat aymanukum". Try to be more constructive. We could change the future but not the past. Send me a message on my talk page if you want to assist in improving the image of Islam on Wikipedia. Thanks --Johnleeds1 (talk)20:30, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Amazing. While talk pages obviously aren't for chatting, I'll just say that I'm glad to see you're still around.MezzoMezzo (talk)05:38, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Seyyed jaan,
Can you verify thatHadhrat Ayesha Siddiqa By Allamah Syed Sulaiman Nadvi is a reliable source on Islamic history? I am doubting that.Saintali (talk)21:26, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did some Google search, the closest I could find isSeerat-e-Aisha bySulaiman Nadvi.Saintali (talk)08:41, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of the articleThe Twelve Imams know that it will be appearing asthe main page featured list on March 21, 2014. You can view the TFL blurb atWikipedia:Today's featured list/March 21, 2014. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured list directorsGiants2008 (talk ·contribs),Crisco 1492 (talk ·contribs) orSchroCat (talk ·contribs), or atWikipedia talk:Today's featured list. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions ofthe suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on theMain Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. Thanks! (en-2.5).04:59, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Twelve Imams are the spiritual and political successors to theIslamic prophetMuhammad in theTwelver branch ofShia Islam. According to thetheology of Twelvers, the Twelve Imams are infallible human individuals who not only ruled over the community with justice, but also were able to keep and interpretsharia. It is believed by Twelver Shia Muslims that the TwelveImams were foretold in theHadith of the Twelve Successors. The Imams were guided by secret texts in their possession, such asal-Jafr andal-Jamia.Ali(calligraphy pictured) was the first of the Twelve Imams, and, in the Twelvers' view, the rightful successor to Muhammad, followed by male descendants of Muhammad through his daughterFatimah. Each Imam was the son of the previous Imam, with the exception ofHusayn ibn Ali, who was the brother ofHasan ibn Ali. The twelfth and final Imam isMuhammad al-Mahdi, who is believed by the Twelvers to be currently alive, and hidden inthe Major Occultation until he returns to bring justice to the world. All of the Imams met unnatural deaths, with the exception of the last Imam.

@User:Faizhaider, Salam. As you see above, the list will be appeared on the main page, Thanks God. I suggested to one of the director to change the date and replace it with Amir al-Momenin's birthday (13th May). Best wishes.--Seyyed(t-c)18:51, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can change the date if you like, but May 13 is not going to be possible. That is a Tuesday, and TFL only runs on Mondays and Fridays. The 12th (a Monday) is available, but it's up to you whether you want the slot. Please let me know quickly whether you want the date change, so I can pick an alternate list for next week if necessary.Giants2008 (Talk)21:04, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Salam alaikum man, this might make you laugh. Seven years ago, youadded a source by Fred Astren atIslamization of Iran but there is no title or ISBN number. I am working on an article about the Abbasid Revolution now and I have a feeling whatever that book is, it would probably be valuable. Do you by chance remember that book you once used as a source on that article you might not remember seven years ago? :DMezzoMezzo (talk)04:48, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind bro, I found ithere.MezzoMezzo (talk)05:41, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello,A while back I was working on theJafar Panahi page. As far as I know there is no full biography on Panahi so the article is a bit limited. The one section in the article that was already very large when I started working on it and that I have not significantly contributed to relates to his political imprisonment beginning in 2010. In my opinion this section needs a lot of work and clarification. I am not sure if all of the information is up to date and accurate and am concerned that it may currently be misleading. I was hoping that either you or someone in the Iran project could take a look at the article and make sure that it is currently accurate.Thanks, --Deoliveirafan (talk)01:47, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Unfortunately, I don't have enough information to help you ;-)--Seyyed(t-c)14:22, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Is there somewhere else on the Iran project page that you could recommend for me to request help on this issue? Thank you.--Deoliveirafan (talk)01:00, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know. You can ask on the talk page of the Iran Wikiproject.--Seyyed(t-c)03:36, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I have moved my response to you here from Mhhossein's page, as I didn't want to clutter her page up! I don't mind you intervening at all, every contribution is welcome. Basically I only copy-edit in Wikipedia, though I do check footnotes quite a lot (presently wading through the ISIS ones as you will see from the View History pages!). I haven't looked at the references in the ISIS article yet that are supposed to support the Wahhabism claim, mainly because I have steered clear of the subject as well beyond my expertise and knowledge. As I am cleaning up the footnotes in the ISIS article, I will have a look at this now, and those that don't support I will tag. As for the other article, on Wahhabism, what you say doesn't surprise me. Quite a lot of Wiki article footnotes don't support claims in the text, and this can go unnoticed and unrectified, sometimes for years, in my experience, going by the retrieval dates. Doubtless readers who do notice just say, "Well, it's Wikipedia, what can you expect?" Depressing. I think I had better not get into the whys and wherefores of ISIS's links with Wahhabism, but thanks for the information you gave. --P123ct1 (talk)15:27, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PS So it was you who added the Kharijites part, was it? I seem to remember whoever it was had to fight to get it in, and it's still there!

-P123ct1; Yes. I provided sources which have accused ISIS for Kharijite beliefs. Surprisingly, some of them are Salafi themselves. Of course, ISIS does not accept it due to extremely negative connotation of this title. In addition, I think you should start a discussion in the talk page of the article and ask those who believe ISIS is Wahhabi to provide reliable source for this claim. --Seyyed(t-c)17:25, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seyyed I might do that, after I recover from the exhausting battle I have been having with editors, two in particular, over exactly how to call ISIS a "terrorist" organization in the article. You say ISIS don't accept being called Kharijite and having looked at the Kharijite Wiki article I can see why. There is another question I have wondered about. Why don't ISIS like the "Daesh" name? They take that as an insult as well. Do you know why? (I might add your answer to the text, if you have a reference for it, or I could find one, if I knew exactly how to spell that word, or acronym, in English, there are so many variants.) --P123ct1 (talk)17:59, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why they dislike Daesh. --Seyyed(t-c)18:41, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On another point, I notice you speak Arabic, so perhaps you can help answer a question which is proving to be a bone of contention between me and another editor, who can speak Arabic (I can't). It's on the same article, ISIS, which I've noticed you have edited as well. What do ISIS now call themselves, "The Islamic State" or "Islamic State"? I haven't trawled through all the footnotes, but notice there are discrepancies in some of the articles in English. I came across a translation from the Arabic in one footnote (you click on a link for the English) and it says "Islamic State" without the "The". My adversary (!) insists the translation should be "The Islamic State" and Werldweyd(sp?) I notice once said the translation from the Arabic is "The Islamic State". I noticed there was once an unresolved dispute about this in the al-Baghdadi article as well. I do know "al" means "the", but beyond that I know nothing. What is the correct name, do you know? It would be nice to straighten this out as the ISIS article is hopelessly at sea on this, both versions are dotted throughout it. --P123ct1 (talk)15:27, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

الدولة الاسلامية means The Islamic State, however using capital letters for Islamic State in English may solve the problem as well. What's your idea?--Seyyed(t-c)17:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean by using capital letters for Islamic State. Sometimes the press says, for example, "The new group, Islamic State ...", and sometimes, "The new group, the Islamic State ...", but obviously never "The new group, The Islamic State ...". In view of what you say, I think it should be called "the Islamic State" in the article's text, but "The Islamic State" in headings and infoboxes. That is useful information I can quote if necessary if people dispute changes. Thanks. --P123ct1 (talk)18:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In my view, it is not important at all.--Seyyed(t-c)18:39, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am surprised you say that. This is an encyclopaedia, after all. Good encyclopaedias are pretty rigorous about things like this. --P123ct1 (talk)22:16, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seyyed: عصر به خیر this editorP123ct1 obviously is incompetent to distinguish between Arabic and Farsi. And toP123ct1, be advised that I certainly don't cut people heads off. Your two-faced underhanded statement(s) about me are racist and a violation ofWP:PA. Back off already!Worldedixor (talk)00:56, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seyyed: I have removed my ill-advised joke from my earlier comment here. I meant no harm by it. I am sorry you were drawn into this. --P123ct1 (talk)07:59, 2 August 2014 (UTC) ][reply]

Seyyed: I think I understand now why you didn't think it mattered whether it was "the Islamic State" or "The Islamic State". I don't think Arabic makes the distinction in names of organisations, publications, etc between "the" and "The". In English a big fuss is made of this (as I know from my former employment). For example, one newspaper is called "The Times", never the "Times", and another is called "The Daily Telegraph", never the "Daily Telegraph". So I don't think it matters whether the ISIS article calls it "The Islamic State" or "the Islamic State", as you said, but there will need to be consistency in the article, one or the other, and I will handle that. --P123ct1 (talk)14:12, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I think this is an important distinction to make, as it can mean two different things. ISIS is claiming to be THE Islamic State, not just AN Islamic State. For example, Iran claims to be AN islamic state (more specifically, an islamic republic), but ISIS is claiming to be THE only true, legitimate, etc., islamic state. Hence the "The" part plays a definitive role in its self-styled name. My two cents. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk)05:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank for your comment. At present I am not active on this article and you can discuss with@Mhhossein:.--Seyyed(t-c)07:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Salam alaikum Seyyed, I decided not to buy a new computer yet so I will still edit in sha Allah but at a slower pace. Would you still like some commentary and help with improving the article?MezzoMezzo (talk)04:27, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alaikum Salam, I worked onISIS and some others articles during these days. I am busy at work, university, family life, etc. however, God willing I will try to return to that article.--Seyyed(t-c)17:54, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Walaikum as salam, I noticed that your "email this user" function doesn't seem to be working, or has a dated email address.MezzoMezzo (talk)04:04, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Salam Alaykom seyyed. I'm going to improve theThe Fourteen Infallibles, hence I've prepared anew background in my sub-page, which is a combination of the old back ground and recently gathered materials by me. But, unfortunately, I don't know which parts should be omitted because outcome is a rather long text consisted of 6 paragraphs !. Please help by omitting unnecessary parts. By the way, a another editor has proposed his ownessay on this issue which should be considered along with the above materials. ThanksMhhossein (talk)14:27, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alayko Salam. Sorry, I am too busy this week. God willing I will join in the cumming week. God bless you. Best. --Seyyed(t-c)04:29, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I have recently encountered an aggressive editor who insults me and my religion and makes personal attacks, and I would like your advice on how to handle this, please.

1-here, this editor, Andres Feder, insisted on insulting religion by repeating the phrase "degenerate religious thinking", andhere by referring to “all religious fiction” and saying that "all religious texts are fictional", even when I told him that Wikipedia does not care what our beliefs are. He further insulted me by saying, "You can believe in whatever figments of imagination you want!", after which I warned him and asked him to respect the beliefs of others.

2- He always pretends that I am upset because of the policies, but I try to respect the policies and his behavior has irritated me.

-Me: "This is the last time you are insulting my beliefs, I respect yours so please respect mine."[1]

- Editor: "If these policies cause you offence, you are free to set up your own wiki and use any sources you want there".[2]

-Me: "Of course We are not talking about the policies. The policies are highly required for maintaining an encyclopedia. This is you who causes offense to one's beliefs."[3]

3- The editor tries to use insulting sentences and examples even when we are discussing something else. When I asked "Lightbreather" to guide me on this, Feder came in and said " Not to support the Iranian dictatorship or any other church-state".[4]

Or here he used this example which is in fact an insult to Khomeini:"According to Ayatollah Khomeini, God likes sick-minded and deranged forms of punishment"[5]

4-I tried to solve the problem through his talk page, but he made more attacks and removed exchanges:[6]There he said, "you expect me to respect someone who everyone knows was a deranged madman?" (referring to the Iranian Ayatollah Khomeini).

5- You gave him another request to be polite, but he removed that message, too:[7]

6- Some other insults are here:[8]

What can I do for this? Please help me solve this problem.Mhhossein (talk)19:21, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mhhossein: Rest assured, your behavior irritates me too. For instance,here where you imply that my cleaning up the Arba'een article could be counted as "vandalism". False accusations of that kind are a well-known symptom of a problem editor:[9]. My goal is to have an encyclopedia with reliable, serious information - if that is your goal too, you shouldn't have any problems with my edits.--Anders Feder (talk)23:34, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Anders Feder: Read that again carefully and you'll see thatthere it is mentioned that I don't account your edits as vandalism and I assume your good faith. why can't you understand sources or policies are not being discussed here, we are addressing your behavior toward others.Mhhossein (talk)03:07, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mhhossein: Read that again carefully and you'll see thatthere I didn't write that you "accounted" my edits as vandalism. I wrote that you said youcould. Which you couldn't, because it wasn't vandalism by any stretch of imagination, regardless of whether you thought it was in bad faith or not. Why can't you understand that behaving properly is as incumbent upon you as it is on everyone else.--Anders Feder (talk)03:37, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Anders Feder:; You remind me the old days of 2006-2007, when I was younger and had many challenges here in wikipedia. Non of my old friends and opponents are not active today. By the way, while you have correct understanding of the policies, your aggressive approach bother the others. You completely, violateWikipedia:Etiquette, particularlyWikipedia:Civility. I warn we do not tolerate such manner in wikipedia.--Seyyed(t-c)11:00, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Warn away to your heart's content. I see I have been around longer than you have, and am dismayed to see how various groupings such as your own have consolidated areas of Wikipedia for pushing propaganda in place of encyclopedic content. The basic idea seems to be to post so much dubious content that good-faith editors eventually stop bothering trying to rectify it.--Anders Feder (talk)11:22, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am happy to meet someone who is active here longer than me and completely aware of the policies. Please clarify where and when I propagate ideas in wikipedia. As you can see in my contributions, I have always asked people with different viewpoints to participate to make better article based on a broader consensus. You can examine my approach inHezbollah article when trying to make it Good article by collaboration with the Jews and Sunnis. You just blame the others who are disagree with you and attack them without providing evidence for your claims. At least, you can see if I wanted to propagate here I could do it here[10].

No, I don't. You are the one blaming me for disagreeing with you without providing evidence for your claims. If you have done good work in the past, that isn't reflected in how you are responding to me here.--Anders Feder (talk)00:19, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mhhossein andAnders Feder: I read your discussions from the beginning in theTalk:Arba'een to check the Etiquette. Let's suppose Anders Feder is right. However, you use negative prejudice, as if you are certain that Mhhossein wants to propagate his religious views. You could use polite manner instead of saying "teachings which are all religious fiction"[11] and[12]. You completely neglected most ofWikipedia:Civility. You could have said, "I disagree with you about the religious ideas and teachings and Wikipedia does not consider religious texts as reliable academic sources." When you attacked directly to all religious ideas instead of what is necessary for the article, then Mhhossien was obliged to defend them[13]. At this time, the discussion was far from what could improve the article. Wikipedia is not a forum to attack or defend any religion.[14][15] Mhhssien, repeatedly reminded you that the issue is not the validity of the religious ideas but it is the reliability of the sources.[16] Then I entered, and showed you how a constructive discussion can solve the problem and you accepted.[17] As you see in this case, your etiquette lead to controversy instead of consensus building. --Seyyed(t-c)00:59, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please, do tell me by which policy or guideline Mhhossein was "obliged" to defend any political or religious view. I am very very interested to learn of it.--Anders Feder (talk)01:04, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mhhossein andAnders Feder: When you changed the issue from discussion about the article to discussion about the religious teaching, it is a natural reaction. I do not want to support his manner and a professional editor should avoid such discussions. You see, your manner is very good trick to mislead the other editors and have led to controversy many times.--Seyyed(t-c)01:12, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't see that at all. When was the last time you had a chat with Mhhossein about his manners, by the way?--Anders Feder (talk)01:20, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you try to change the issue as if the problem is Mhhossein's manner. He might misunderstand WP:NPOV and WP:Reliability but he did not violateWikipedia:Civility as you did frequently. In my view, he could act more cleverly so you could not disturb him. --Seyyed(t-c)01:27, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not changing the issue at all. I am telling you what the issue is.--Anders Feder (talk)01:29, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Anders Feder:The issue is violation ofWikipedia:Civilityby you.--Seyyed(t-c)01:32, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No,it isn't.--Anders Feder (talk)01:33, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Sa.vakilian:Of courseit is. I reminded this toAnders Feder and told him what the real reason of my concern is[18].Mhhossein (talk)03:43, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mhhossein:No, it isn't - no matter how many times you say it. As I've told you repeatedly, I have not attacked any religion - rather, you have chosen to be offended that your religion is not a reliable source.--Anders Feder (talk)04:56, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Anders Feder: Your previous recorded behavior explicitly shows whether you attacked or not, let the world judge it!Mhhossein (talk)05:09, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mhhossein:I agree!--Anders Feder (talk)05:34, 14 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sa.vakilian, thank you for your response on the Ali talk page. I have read it and will reply in due course when my current work is finished. Regards

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Hello Seyyed. With regards to a proposed merger of the muslim holiday articlesMid-Sha'ban/Barat Night, I found that only the Persian Wikipedia has two separate articles as well. Since you speak Persian and are described on the Iran-Wikiproject as an expert in Iranian islamic matters, I would like to ask if you could please check the two Persian articles (Mid-Sha'ban andBarat Night). Do they describe the same subject like on the English Wikipedia or is there really a difference? Thanks!HyperGaruda (talk)20:48, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen the many images you uploaded to Wikipedia, and which were subsequently migrated over to Commons. I fully concede that you thought you were doing the right thing: Sajed.IR did (and still does) state that all its content is available under the GFDL.

Unfortunately, the people running Sajed.IR did such a slipshod job of maintaining the necessary provenance details that it's impossible to tell whether or not they actually had the copyright to any of the images, and therefore whether the release was legitimate. (And in fact, on at least one occasion, they "released" photos that were actually owned by the BBC.)

So we can't trust Sajed.IR's statements that their content is GFDL-available, and thus all the images you uploaded because you thought they were free, have to be deleted. You can still re-upload Sajed-sourced images asnon-free, though.DS (talk)00:24, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@DragonflySixtyseven: Hello, the issue relates to several years ago and I was not aware of this problem at that time. I have not uploaded any file in recent years. I agree with you about Sajed.ir; however, some of the photos were taken more than 30 years ago and therefor they are in public domain according to the Iran's copyright law. --Seyyed(t-c)02:46, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Could you post that commenton the deletion request, then? Thanks.DS (talk)02:59, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Recently i have started editing onShia–Sunni relations. There is an issue. At this article, a wahhabi muslim had been considered as sunni muslim and concludes that the Shia and Sunni don't have good relations, but in fact shia and wahhabi muslims don't have good relations. I think that should make a difference between sunni and wahhabi, because at recent years we see unity between shia and sunni in many muslim countries.

For example, we see this sentence at that article :"Some tension developed between Sunnis and Shia as a result of clashes over Iranian pilgrims and Saudi police at the hajj". This tension was happened between shia and wahabbi muslim no shia and sunni.

This is my honor that you help me. Thanks.Savior59 (talk)06:52, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@User:MezzoMezzo, Salam Alaykum, can you please help me with this question. From one view point, all of those who consider theRashidun as legitimate Islamic rulers are Sunnis. This definition even contains Mutazilis. From the other view Sunnis follow particular schools of theology and Fiqh which are considered by Wahhabis as Bid'ah. On the other side Shias tolerate traditional Sunni schools and live with them peacefully in most areas, while they do not consider Wahhabis as Sunni and have negative view towards them. --Seyyed(t-c)03:54, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Walaikum as salam, man I am sorry for being so late. Long, long story. Anyway, my attitude is to go by what sources say: anthropological and sociological studies consider Wahhabis a subcategory of Sunni because, as you hinted at, the mainstream/objective view is that Sunnism is determined by a sect's position on leadership in the beginning, i.e. the Rashidun or the Ahlul Bait. Or, in the case of Ibadis, some of the Rashidun and not others. The various relations and positions of modern day movements like Wahhabism, Deobandism, Barelvism etc. don't relate to that and thus would have no bearing, as there are even non-Wahhabis/non-Salafis among Sunnis who also don't follow one of the four traditional schools. Also, I would agree with the claim that Mu'tazilah were technically Sunnis and a number of modern academic professors have suggested as such, but unfortunately most Sunnis of all different varieties react too emotionally, sort of like on the issue of Ahmadiyya being Muslims or not, so discussion becomes difficult.

That's my own personal viewpoint as one editor; I cannot claim that absolutely true. Everything has to go back to what reliable, mainstream sources commonly say.MezzoMezzo (talk)04:21, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Salam Alaykum, Thank for your complete answer.--Seyyed(t-c)04:47, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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ASA, Sa.vakilian. Thanks for thanking me. I see you haven't clarified that apparent contradiction in the article yet. I'd like to understand Ali's story, could you please do it? Thanks. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk)05:37, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ExperiencedArticleFixer:, I propose to readThe Succession to Muhammad (book)[19], to understand the historical event.Wilferd Madelung has reviewed the story in detail. IF you want to be familiar with Ali's viewpoint, you can read hid letter toMalik al-Ashtar, the governor of Egypt.[20][21]. Best wishes.--Seyyed(t-c)06:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! They seem like valuable sources, I'm going to check them out. The article still needs to be corrected! --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk)07:26, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it takes time.--Seyyed(t-c)07:48, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Please could you help with the articles onMarwan I andMuawiya II. If you look at the talk pages and the article history, you will see what the issue is.-- Toddy1(talk)07:26, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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@Sa.vakilian:, go ahead and do so.Qpalzmmzlapq (talk)20:54, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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@Sa.vakilian: Done.Qpalzmmzlapq (talk)21:07, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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@Sa.vakilian: It looks good. Just remember that the page has cite errors (it will tell you at the bottom of the page).Qpalzmmzlapq (talk)16:12, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.--Seyyed(t-c)16:15, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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As-salamu 'ayalukum. Do you havepar hasard a reddit account? :) --CounterTime (talk)11:37, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@CounterTime: Wa Alaykum As-Salam. What do you mean? I can not understand!--Seyyed(t-c)12:07, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I simply asked you whether you had areddit account. ;) --CounterTime (talk)14:09, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No.--Seyyed(t-c)05:18, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, since I had a Shi'i friend there who had a very similar name. --CounterTime (talk)11:35, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I've been working collecting data on the results for the Democratic Presidential caucuses or state conventions that were held in earlier years, 1940 being the starting point given I was interested at the time in the Anti-Third Term movement that had sprung up then, and while I can't access all the data in question anyway (I'm using the New York Times as a source, but I'm not a subscriber and so can't look at the articles in detail), I've provided them in the talk pages. Having gotten down to 1928 now, however, I'm not certain how best to display the information given, and I'm not sure if there really is a precedent(s) for it given the operational differences between the Modern Primary and the more Archaic Primary of yesteryear. For example;

1. In 1928 Al Smith clearly won the Democratic Presidential Preference Primary in Ohio over Senator Atlee Pomerene, but the latter was awarded the entirety of the delegation. The situation in question is in an article I provided on the talk page for the '28 Democratic Primaries, but when you have delegates not being bound or awarded based on the results of a Primary, should that be counted as a separate contest? How should we display that on a map? Should one be given preference?
2. Depending on the year in question you either end up with a handful, none, or a whole slew of favorite-son candidates ready to represent State delegations, and these candidates technically have "won" delegates. However in some cases, like those I identified for the 1968 Republican nomination race, are far more than the infobox could possibly handle when combined with the actual candidates (even if we are just talking about candidates and favorite sons that won delegates, that would make 17). Should we give preference based on delegates won? On actual candidates vs. Favorite Sons? What about if they've withdrawn and endorsed a candidate? Should Favorite Sons be combined somehow (for map and infobox purposes) and explained separately in another section?
3. In a number of the Presidential Primaries and even Caucuses I have encountered language that the delegates in question are officially unpledged or uninstructed, but have a strong preference or are generally understood for being for a certain candidate. Under those conditions, should those delegations be considered Unpledged, or should they be considered as being for the candidate? Should the votes of those delegations be included in a candidate's vote total?

These are the major questions at the moment. I'll also be asking a few others Presidential Elections Wikiproject as well to chime in, so if you have any ideas on how best I should proceed, I'd ask that the responses be put intoTalk:Democratic Party presidential primaries, 1932. Thanks ahead of time. --Ariostos (talk)03:15, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ariostos: Unfortunately, I can not help you with the early Presidential primaries and your knowledge is far more than mine. Ex cues me.--Seyyed(t-c)04:11, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

checkthis and other articles related to Hezbollah, they may have NPOV problems. 11:00, 22 April 2017 (UTC)— Precedingunsigned comment added by46.225.117.44 (talk)

Can you please clarify the issue.--Seyyed(t-c)08:18, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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