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You always do great work for the project and have such a sharp eye for vandalism. I'm honestly surprised that you're not an admin, I assumed you were until I checked last month. You've been one of the gold standards for editing in my book since I made my account.
Aww @LaffyTaffer. That is a lovely message. But at least acknowledge that you are usually there before me lol. I don't have any interest in being an admin, probably I never will. Thank you so much for the lovely message.Knitsey (talk)19:04, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, love it ;) - Three Ukrainian topics were on the main page today, at least at the beginning,RD andDYK, - see my talk. If the opera trailer is too short for the listening enjoyment of your dog and cat, there's the whole opera on the internet. I can't access Arte, though, and the other is probably not properly licensed. --Gerda Arendt (talk)17:15, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Three of "my" recent deaths bios are on the main page right now, onemy story today,Gary Karr, and I loved to find his breakthrough concert in 1962 as a video! In my music today I match it with 9 other double bassists, 7 conducted by a person who's birthday is today - coincidence ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk)19:09, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"I wasn't aware that info boxes are classed as a contentious subject.", good for you!! I bet it's true for many editors. I met the "war" (yes, they call a war what was going on from 2005) in 2013, and couldn't believe it, and made suggestions forBach andWagner. My last such effort was forGustav Holst, in 2016. But I still watch the scene, and made a comment today. I still can't believe it: a little device added to help the needs of some of our readers,taking nothing away, how could that be contentious? --Gerda Arendt (talk)10:41, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really understand why people would choose that hill to die on, although maybe I've just not found my own hill. I've seen a few arguments before about infoboxes but I didn't realise it had such a history or was classed as contentious. I learn something new everyday with Wikipedia.Knitsey (talk)12:23, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to see the classification go, but I - sanctioned by the arbitration committee for having brought unrest to Bach and Wagner - am hardly the person to ask it it's still contentious. Did you see my comment in the discussion? --Gerda Arendt (talk)13:28, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just wanted to give you a heads up there's a sock that repeatedly keeps adding unsupported genres onSpellbound (Paula Abdul album) - they repeatedly keep creating new IP's and now a new account to vandalize it, just in case if they attempt to do it again (as they most likely will continue to do) - do not approve it.Pillowdelight (talk)18:09, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Knitsey. Per your request, your account has beengrantedtemporary account IP viewer rights. You are now able to reveal the IP addresses of individuals usingtemporary accounts that are not visible to the general public. This is very sensitive information that isonly to be used to aid in anti-abuse workflows. Please take a moment to reviewWikipedia:Temporary account IP viewer for more information on this user right. It is important to remember:
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Remember, even if a user is violating policy, avoid revealing personal information if possible. Use temporary account usernames rather than disclosing IP addresses directly, or give information such as same network/not same network or similar. If you do not want the user right anymore then please ask me or another administrator and it will be removed for you. Happy editing!voorts (talk/contributions)20:51, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Saikothjahan, I missed your first message here, sorry. The problem is, that the references call them Hossein. We would need something to confirm their spelling it Hossen. I would suggest you use anWikipedia:Edit requests on the article talk page but you will need to somehow provide references that the spelling needs correction.Knitsey (talk)17:19, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is the first reference used in the article and it clearly spells "Hossen". Please check. I have checked almost all of the mentioned references and nobody used "Hossein".Saikothjahan (talk)17:39, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Saikothjahan Please use the article talk page. Nearly all of the current references use Hossein. It is possible that most of the references have spelt it incorrectly, but you need to go to the article talk page to discuss it. I suggested using the edit request as this should bring in more responses. If you keep adding the name after revision this may be classes as an edit warWP:3RR.Knitsey (talk)17:43, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @EricShay, another editor has looked and there is no mention of that person on those pages. You said you had other references? It might help to have a look at those?Knitsey (talk)23:04, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Christ on a bicycle, yet another threat to the project. Well, if Wikipedia is actually withdrawn from the UK, which might asSimonm223 says be the best thing, I'm sure that won't be the last word re this. But if it's not, well... then I guess people who feel their privacy to be compromised will abscond in large numbers. :-(Bishonen |tålk13:19, 11 August 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Per the press I've read on this, I think it's way to early to be very pessimistic. Like with the India Supreme Court and the Turkey Supreme Court, these things can go right. I read the judge as saying "It's too early, the Ofcom people haven't done anything yet."Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk)14:11, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I also hope things change. Losing the UK as a source of contributors would be bad - and I want to make sure it's clear that I do think it would be avery bad thing but having the privacy of all Wikipedians compromised in this way would be aneven worse thing. If it comes down to a choice where all the options available to us are terrible sometimes the best we can do is triage. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.Simonm223 (talk)15:46, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Simonm223, am I correct in thinking someone on the Caesar DePaço discussion asked about blocking Portuguese ip's but someone replied that wasn't possible? Or have I made that up. I think that if the worst happened, blocking UK ip addresses, but allowing UK residents to still read the encyclopaedia would be a solution.Knitsey (talk)15:54, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
IIRC in the Caesar DePaço discussion the problem was about the universality of court rulings within the EU across the EU. That may not be applicable in the case of the UK.Simonm223 (talk)15:55, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It may have been in one of the other discussions about protecting Portuguese editors. Never mind, I'm too fatigued about it all to wade through the discussions at various discussion pages. As you say, I hope it will have a satisfactory resolution eventually.Knitsey (talk)16:01, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, UK contributor here. The OSA and how Wikipedia will be categorised by Ofcom is concerning. However, looking atthis which lays out how the categorisation works based on the 2 conditions - personally, I don't see how Wikipedia could meet condition 1, as for condition 2, 'allows users to forward or reshare user-generated content' I believe is true and 'has more than 7 million UK users on the user-to-user part of its service, representing c.10% of the UK population' is possible. Dependent on how Ofcom determines the second condition, Category 1could be a possibility. It's clear though if that were to happen, the Wikimedia Foundation don't plan to leave it unchallenged. Hopefully that's some reassurance!11WB (talk)14:31, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @11wallisb, Welcome to my talk page. Thank you for that information. I am surprised at the '7 million UK users, I didn't realise it was so high. I really do hope there will be a way to work through it. I still really enjoy Wikipedia. I'm not an article creator, but I enjoy helping in my little way.Knitsey (talk)14:38, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Knitsey! I apologise again for posting that, I've now put that information in the Village Pump discussion! The '7 million' refers to Ofcom's requirement. I don't think the actual number of active registered UK Wikipedians is known publicly.11WB (talk)14:41, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The embarrassment is all mine! I didn't articulate that information very well at all... I'm hopeful this will work out, I can't imagine Wikipedia becoming completely inaccessible (or even just inaccessible for editing).11WB (talk)14:47, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Doug Weller, honestly, I'm a complete technonumpty. I did look at that a few weeks ago. I don't really understand how it works, but it would be worth paying a small amount to continue editing. I wasn't sure of the legality, but that's probably not a good idea to discuss here.Knitsey (talk)14:55, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The issue with that is, VPN IPs and by extension proxy server IPs can be accessed by anyone. This means a high percentage of these IP addresses are already going to be blocked from Wikipedia anyway.11WB (talk)15:17, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I remember thata while back you came to my user talk page asking for a bit of help with an article, and I remember just walking away from that interaction having been a bit more cheerful for it having helped out and having interacted with a pretty cool bean. Flipping through the WMF pump today, I was shocked to seea heartfelt goodbye upon the news that thePanopticon... er,UK Government had managed to get away with what they did in thetotally fair courts. I know that it's enough to dissuade a fellow from editing when editing means giving an unreasonable amount personal info to an entity... that routinely gets sued and ends up turning that stuff overen masse to governments looking to ruin people in court. A perfect storm. I just want to tell you, and maybe this is for everyone in the same boat as you too, that your work on the encyclopedia is worth more than words. If never you see anyone from here again, just remember we all treasure your dedication to this wild endeavour that is Wikipedia.BarntToust05:26, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @BarntToust, thank you so much for your message. I'm hoping will be resolved but I'm flopping between 'nah, this won't happen' and 'yeah, this is going to happen'. Flippin Conservatives, never think a plan through.
MissKnitsey. I just flew here to say thanks for keeping an eye on my page. I don't understand what's going on. All I try to do is help protect the community .. that's all. Once again, thank you. Wishing you an awesome week.Criticize (talk)10:58, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Criticize, you're very welcome. I don't usually ask these days as often we don't remember why someone decides to target us. Somebody went through a phase of making accounts targeting me but I've no idea who or why lol. If they continue, maybe ask for protection for a short while as some of these vandals have short attention spans and soon wander off to do something else.Knitsey (talk)11:51, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Knitsey. I am a rather new user around here, still learning the ropes as a recent changes dweller, and I just learned what the Online Safety Act means for you and other users from the UK. You, alongside Joyous, were the first to welcome me to this space and although it was a brief month ago, I wanted to say thank you for being part of the warm welcome that made me sure of my decision to contribute to Wikipedia, as amateurish as I am.BrandNewSaint (talk)18:58, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Today's story - short version: ten years ago we had a DYK about a soprano who sang in concerts with me in the choir, - longer: I foundtoday a youtube ofan aria she sang with us then, recorded the same year, - if you still have time: our performances were the weekend before the Iraq war ultimatum, and we sangDona nobis pacem (and the drummer drummed!) as if they could hear us in Washington. --Gerda Arendt (talk)15:59, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a courtesy notice to inform you that a request for arbitration, which named you as a party, has been declined. For the Arbitration Committee,theleekycauldron (talk • she/her)03:14, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Robert McClenon, I saw that the day after they sent me the message. I just eyerolled and left it. I've had a little holiday and couldn't be bothered by that trivia. I am surprised it hasn't happened before now. Do I get a badge?Knitsey (talk)14:10, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can design your own badge, and then I may also display it for a different frivolous ArbCom request a week or two ago. You are surprised that what hasn't happened before? Frivolous ArbCom requests? They happen all the time. That you were named in one? That is just random.Robert McClenon (talk)19:36, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mate! I can barely remember how to link talk page discussions correctly. Create a badge, pfft.
If you don't mind me asking I have a question: You rightly pointed out White Spider has a large ammount of comments on the Zak Smith talk page but I was wondering how did you find that specific number out was it counting each comment or is there a way that Wiki shows the number of comments of someone?GothicGolem29 (talk)18:16, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @GothicGolem29, you've probably worked this out by now. At the time, I just manually counted as there were fewer talk page subjects open. I would usually do it via Edit statistics -> Talk and see how many edits, although I think edits to messages might be included.
You can see more accurately by using toolforge as well. That shows you your interactions and whether they were talk page messages or talk page edit to messages.
Thanks for the answer. If you don't mind me asking In regards to edit statistics where would you find that? I tried clicking editing full page and clicking the little dots looking through the stuff there and could not see an edit statistics page tab.GothicGolem29 (talk)17:32, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
On the person's contributions page, go to the bottom and there is the user name along with links, edit statistics is one of the links.
Maybe add a smiley? Or a<joke>...</joke>? I thought it could be funny, but then I worried that you might actually be feeling hurt, and I really didn't want that.WhatamIdoing (talk)21:12, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm so sorry, I would love to make up some excuse, but I can't think of one. I'm a numpty. My reasoning was, 'behind the bike shed' is a eufa...ufernisum...eupher-ma-whatsit for getting up to nefarious activities in school. Smoking, avoiding detention, snogging the boyfriend etc.Knitsey (talk)21:17, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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