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Hi JohnThorne! Please be sure to add a public-domain attribution template such as{{PD-notice}} to any citations for public domain sources from which you have copied text, such as Ellicott at theJudges 5 article (I did this one for you). Thanks!DanCherek (talk)15:35, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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I think you are more religious on wikipedia but wikipedia is not religious you must understand moreover expound to me reason for deleting my edit in wiki pagehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Mustard_Seedand if you can't then don't hide truth from others.Realitybehind (talk)05:50, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
see thishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_seed#Description andhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustard_seed it say poppy seed is less than a millimeter in diameter and it say mustard is 1 to 2 millimetres in diameter now you need any more reference.Realitybehind (talk)12:00, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello JohnThorne,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.
Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on thetalk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.
In the last 30 days, only100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently877 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 822 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.
This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.
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Hello JohnThorne,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was newdiscussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.
Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]
In the last 30 days,the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).
A backlog reduction drive, coordinated bybuidhe andZippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign uphere.
Barnstars will be awarded.
Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages.WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
There is a new template available,{{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
Very highunreviewed pages backlog: 15543 articles, as of 00:00, 18 February 2026 (UTC), according toDatBot
There has been significant discussion atWP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.
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Hello I noticed you contributed to a topic regarding Matthew 5:9 here’s the link:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_5:9 There’s a passage in the article that reads: “Martin Luther and other early Protestant translators of the Bible preferred the translation "children of God," because they wanted to avoid any confusion as to whether Jesus was the only Son of God. "Sons of God" is, however, the more accurate translation and is used by most modern Bible translations” I was wondering if I could get a citation for this quote as I’m writing a paper and it heavily depends on this being proven. If you could update the Wiki page that would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!2607:9880:3578:92:C10F:ECC4:DBD0:2DF6 (talk)02:29, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello JohnThorne,
After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinatorsBuidhe andZippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations toDr vulpes who led with 880 points. Seethis page for further details.
Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need theother 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at leastone a day.
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Hi JohnThorne,
For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to seethe letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.
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Hi--I changed your edithere. I don't see much benefit in having a separate wikilink for "Bible"--it strikes me asWP:OVERLINKing. Thank you.Drmies (talk)14:44, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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(t ·c)buidhe21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello JohnThorne,
Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. Theopen letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in thecurrent issue ofThe Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.
Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks toMPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went toJohn B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on theAwards page. Check out the newHall of Fame also.
Software news:Novem Linguae andMPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recentlyhere. Thereviewer report has also been improved.
Suggestions:
Backlog:
Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with theOctober backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
Thanks so much for the assessment onGuns into Plowshares. If/when you have a minute, could you give me a sense of what’s keeping that article from B class? It’s my first article, so I’m just trying to get a better sense of what more experienced editors are looking for. Gratefully,Brian (talk)01:56, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's not as though you're a new editor.Doug Wellertalk11:02, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There is currently a discussion atWikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Doug Wellertalk09:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk)20:20, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]Please see the associated ANI thread. If you want to be unblocked, you need to commit to not copy from sources and demonstrate a better understanding of copyright.User:Moneytrees/Copyright blocks contains some advice on appealing this block.Moneytrees🏝️(Talk)20:23, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. To enforce a community ban (WP:CBAN), I have blocked you indefinitely. Please seeWP:UNBAN for your appeal options. Thank you.El_C12:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello JohnThorne,
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations toWaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. Seethis page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar.Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see theAwards page and theHall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previousWP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification andWP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in thefeed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendlyexplanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit yourcommon.js or vector.js file fromUser:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js toUser:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js
Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, seethis guide,this checklist, and spend some time atWP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF ThePageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitteddozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such asNovem Linguae andMPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team alsohad a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discussrevamping the landing pages that new users see.
Hello, JohnThorne, and welcome to Wikipedia. I edit here too, under the usernameShushugah, and I thank you for your contributions.
I wanted to let you know, however, that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created,List of manuscripts from Qumran Cave 2, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome atWikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of manuscripts from Qumran Cave 2.
You might like to note that suchdiscussions usually run for seven days and arenot votes. And,our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.
If you have any questions, please leave a comment here and prepend it with{{Re|Shushugah}}. And, don't forget to sign your reply with~~~~ . Thanks!
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Category:Continental Singers has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with thecategorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments atthe category's entry on thecategories for discussion page. Thank you.Mason (talk)03:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Book of Genesis chapters has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with thecategorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments atthe category's entry on thecategories for discussion page. Thank you.Beland (talk)04:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Exodus 4 has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with thecategorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments atthe category's entry on thecategories for discussion page. Thank you.Beland (talk)06:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Book of Exodus chapters has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with thecategorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments atthe category's entry on thecategories for discussion page. Thank you.Beland (talk)06:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Book of Leviticus chapters has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with thecategorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments atthe category's entry on thecategories for discussion page. Thank you.Beland (talk)06:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Book of Deuteronomy chapters has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with thecategorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments atthe category's entry on thecategories for discussion page. Thank you.Beland (talk)07:04, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Matthew 16 has beennominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion atthe entry on the Templates for discussion page.Beland (talk)03:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A tag has been placed onCategory:Epistle to the Galatians chapters indicating that it is currently empty, and is not adisambiguation category, acategory redirect, under discussion atCategories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted undersection C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you maycontest the nomination byvisiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag.Beland (talk)02:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Epistle to the Galatians has beennominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion atthe entry on the Templates for discussion page.Beland (talk)02:56, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The redirectGenesis 6 has been listed atredirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets theredirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect atWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 November 6 § Genesis 6 until a consensus is reached.TNstingray (talk)00:38, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]