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I would like to nominate the articleGuy Fawkes Night for FAR on the grounds of: (1) comprehensiveness, it is very weak on recent, local and contemporary celebrations and obsevances and therefore cannot be deemed a comprehensive treatment of an ongoing folk celebration. (2) appropriate structure, it does not have an appropriate hierarchy of sub-headings and is essay-like in style, and (3) bias, the article is heavily biased towards the early history of the celebration to the detriment of all other facets of the subject.
However, I am a usually just a generator of prose within Wikipedia and don't know how to go about this. Any advice would be welcome.Urselius (talk)10:27, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I agree that it shouldn't have passed FA, but I very much doubt if going to FAR would be productive, mainly because there has been no substantive change to the article since it passed last time. Any changes to the article are controlled by POD and overseen by other experienced editors likeUser:SandyGeorgia,User:Nikkimaria, andUser:Malleus Fatuorum. They believed that FA criteria were met last time, and there's no reason to think they'd change their views now. The problem, I think, is with the FA criteria themselves, or perhaps on how they are applied - I don't intend getting involved enough to decide which it is. The outcome seems to concentrate on meeting academic referencing standards, rather than on producing articles that are accessible and informative to non-specialist readers. In cases like GFN, where the articleshould cover both historical development and current practice, this leads to a lack of balance when the sources on historical analysis are deemed to be "superior" to those on current events - and when there is only one editor with a fixed view on the matter, rather than a team of editors with a variety of views, deciding. Perhaps any article edited, in effect, by a single editor should be automatically debarred from FA consideration?Ghmyrtle (talk)11:48, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
I think past FA decisions should be able to be challenged on the grounds that the article did not meet the stated criteria. On the pages that I have created or worked on extensively I have never tried to veto additions which have reasonable citations, it wouldn't occur to me. I think there should be a mechanism to flag articles which have been taken over by individuals or cabals to the exclusion of other contributors. You are probably right that the effort to instigate a FAR in this case would be wasted, if only that too many experienced editors now have a vested interest in defending it. A main article which does not reciprocate links with other articles on aspects of the same subject matter should ring alarm bells somewhere.Urselius (talk)13:59, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
The problem seems to beWikipedia:Featured article criteria. Criterion b includes the point that an FA article"neglects no major facts or details and places the subject in context"; and criterion c that"it is a thorough and representative survey of the relevant literature. Claims are verifiable against high-quality reliable sources and are supported by inline citations where appropriate." But those criteria can be in conflict with each other, as I've suggested, when the exclusive use of "high-quality reliable sources" does notallow the subject to be placed "in context". I suppose that could be raised atWT:FA?, but one problem is that opinions are likely to be entrenched after the last FA process, and there is certainly one group of editors who will vociferously oppose any criticism of "their" article (and, probably, an overlapping group who will oppose any criticism of the criteria and process themselves).Ghmyrtle (talk)14:22, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Disambiguation
I am quite confused as to the removal of my contribution. I am trying to create a way for people to get information and pictures of common terms used in the fashion business relating to product descriptions on ecommerce fashion sites. Many people have actually clicked through to see the picture I provide as an example to the three I have written on. I tried to reference the material but for some reason had trouble despite the fact that I am the author referencing my own website. I just want to work within the guidelines but am a bit lost in reading all of the rules. I just want to contribute information that is useful in Today's Fashion, hence the heading I placed on each called Today's Fashion in order to draw attention to what I believe searchers are looking for.
The only contribution that Iremoved was the text on Raglan - because that page is not a pageabout "Raglan" (in any of its meanings) but what is called adisambiguation page, which only exists so that readers can find the right article in which to find information. If you want to create a page onRaglan (garment), you simply need to click on that red link and insert the text:
A raglan is distinguished by the unique seams that angle from under the arm toward the neckline as shown in thepic. This creates a sporty feel to the garment. Many designers play on this by adding raglan seams to a sequin or fancier top in order to give it a relaxed look.
It wouldn't be a very good article, and it might be threatened with deletion, but at least it would be a start. To improve it, you should probably readthis. You might also be interested inWikipedia:WikiProject Fashion. Please bear in mind that this is an encyclopedia, and headings like "Today's Fashion" are not really favoured here. Nor, for that matter, are links to commercial websites - see alsothis on conflicts of interest. Please let me know if I can help further.Ghmyrtle (talk)19:40, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
One More Question
Hi Ghmyrtle. Your message was so very useful btw. I suppose I am slightly confused on the very end section that says Raglan (above where I originally did the edit) a loose fitting garment. I believe it is under a type of heading of "Other" under the raglan article. I guess I am explaining that part better and what I was looking to edit. So instead of adding there I would have to create a new page that is specified for raglan in terms of fashion? Would you recommend deleting "Todays Fashion" heading on the other listings because I am attempting to show how the terms are used today. Since my site is a ecommerce would it be better to send users to view a pic under a blog because the pic is the most important part. I understand if you do not wish to advise either way. There is just a lot to learn here and I want to provide the user with a clear picture of what they are seeking. Thanks so much
I can only suggest a few answers, I'm afraid - I'm certainly no expert on fashion (I simply happen to live quite near Raglan, the place) although I'm conscious that fashion is one of those topics that Wikipedia does not cover very well. If you want to write about the garments called "raglans" - that is, "with sleeves that continue to the collar instead of having armhole seams" according tothis dictionary - you would need to start a new article. But there's really nothing to it, just click on the red link above and start typing. So far as photos are concerned, there are big problems over copyright regulations (seeWikipedia:Image use policy), and the only way it usually works is if you take a photo yourself and upload it to this site. Linking to a commercial website - even if, or probablyespecially if, it is your own commercial website - is very strongly discouraged here. I think that a heading called "Today's fashion" would also be discouraged, though if the article had sections on earlier decades you might get away with a section on "Fashion in the 2010s". An encyclopedia is supposed toavoid focussing on current events or trends, so as to give a bigger picture and put recent developments into context. Sorry if those are not the answers for which you were hoping.Ghmyrtle (talk)22:04, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Do you know anything about this singer ? Seems like he has graduated from theblues tosoul, so he may be more of an interest to you than me.This review is interesting, not least that hecovers "Brown Sugar" and "Get It On" ! I am 50/50 about writing an article on him - would you fancy a go (if so, I will gracefully and rather readily yield). Cheers,
Yes please. I have got some sources (a couple of on-line books, a record label website, and dear old Allmusic - about eight in total), but every little helps. Actually, I'm almost done from what I could find. -Derek R Bullamore (talk)20:23, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
No problem. There were a few minor contradictions with your sources, so I've tried to go with the best fit / most likely solution. I'm lazy when it comes to formatting references though! Let me know if you'd like me to check anything.Ghmyrtle (talk)13:12, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm more than happy with what you unearthed. Obviously theJuke Blues article gave you information not available to me, and is probably a better source than some of the third/fourth party articles that I came across. Yes, formatting references seems to be an ever expanding and evolving art form, that I struggle to keep up with. Still, we all have our Achilles heels - let the formatting nerdies have their fun. Cheers,
I've tweaked the intro as well. From theJuke Blues article, he appears to play lap steel guitar exclusively, not other forms of guitar.Ghmyrtle (talk)14:43, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm happy to nominate it if you like - I stay well away from there now, though I've noticed with interest that there are active discussions about the fact that the DYK process is "broken" and needs to be radically changed, if not done away with completely. No doubt vested interests will make any change virtually impossible, as with everything else here that needs changing!Ghmyrtle (talk)12:58, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Good grief, no. It is more trouble than it is worth. I have not been near DYK since early spring, and do not intend to go back unless the criteria and processes radically change - which, as you point out, they won't. -Derek R Bullamore (talk)13:37, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Do you, by any chance, have a copy of issue 59 ofJuke Blues (2005) ? I believe it may contain an article onCootie Stark. You may be able to add meat to the bones. Cheers,
It's just a very short obit, but I'll see if I can add anything. I keep meaning to go through my copies ofJB to see what I can add in the way of new articles or any other info - maybe that will be my next "project" !Ghmyrtle (talk)13:01, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your input, Incidentally, I notice Stark's obituary was written byDave Peabody, who does not seem to have much information in his own article. I initiated it, albeit almost two years. so maybe details were sparse on t'internet. -Derek R Bullamore (talk)14:16, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Bless your cotton socks on the reds or blues thingy - every little helps. Thanks. I will digest more fully tomorrow, but, as ever, you and I fly the flag. Do the Yanks care a fig about their musical heritage ? It's about all true 'history' they have of any note (pun not initially intended). Cheers,Derek R Bullamore (talk)23:12, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hi! Thank you for watching out Diddy Wah Diddy.. I've been busy loads with real life and I come to check on the articles time to time. I see you and few other editors take care of them well. Have a nice evening. ~Elitropia (talk)22:44, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
English Democrats Party
The quotes are all verifiable and I have allowed for much ambiguity in the last sentence - a subject on which I could provide over two hundred references, if you feel you have the time to read them? Opinions on other political parties are all over Wikipedia. I suspect that like other reviewers of the English Democrats page, your own subjective bias has clouded your judgement.
Yes indeed you and your colleagues appear to prefer 'war' to 'jaw'. I refer you - to start with - to this ecerpt from 'Plaids' page:
Proposals to drown the village of Capel Celyn in the Tryweryn valley in Gwynedd in 1957 to supply the city of Liverpool with water played a part in Plaid Cymru's growth. The fact that the Parliamentary bill authorising the drowning went through without support from any Welsh MPs showed that the MPs' votes in Westminster were not enough to avert such bills from passing.
If you have sources suggesting that wording is incorrect, I suggest either that you change it yourself or - preferably - make a suggestion on the article talk page that it be changed.Ghmyrtle (talk)13:00, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
PS:Please learn to sign your messages on talk pages with four of these : ~ It seems that, as a new editor, you have many things to learn about how to contribute here, of which that is one. I suggest that you read the articles linked from the Welcome message on your talk page.Ghmyrtle (talk)13:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, and of course your 'colleagues', for both your at once patronising and then again dictatorial tone. I suggest you all attempt to use a spell checker. Whilst I do not have the time to sit here and be abused, the tone of your 'discussion' is arrogant and condescending, and be assured that when I have that time, I will research use of 'Your' august site and then wipe the floor with you intellectually.Nickswatman (talk) 14:03, 27 October 2011 (UTC)NickswatmanNickswatman (talk)14:03, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Yes I think you're right, it was a bit spammy, I will tone it down considerably and redo the section and add references when they appear later this week. If you would like to be involved in any way withWP:GLAM/MonmouthpediA you would be very welcome.
Hello Ghmyrtle.I recently recieved your message regarding the articleGloomy Sunday. I've taken your advice and removed the article from GA nomination. Understanding the difficulties in finding verifiable references for a song so shrouded in injustifiable facts and contendable sources of information, any tangible assistence and guidance provided by you on this subject (either on your, mine, or the articles talk page) will be greatly appreciated. Sincere regardsTrollyboy (talk)12:29, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Ghmyrtle, if you want a giggle, go check out the recent history ofKevin Rowland. Another editor has just reverted the incorrect nickname which was added to his infobox. That really made me laugh.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk)13:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
There you go...
...again, running off to the sanbox. So, I'm effectively banned from raisingany concerns about those 4 articles. As soon as I make an appearnce there, you or somebody else is gonna run to Snowded's sanbox. Well go ahead, try & get me blocked or topic banned.GoodDay (talk)18:29, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
I try to improve those articles, but there seems to be a devolutionist attitude prevailing in them. Personally, it's irrelevant to me whether England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland ever become independant -- but can't you'll wait until they do?GoodDay (talk)18:52, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Do you know what happen with the Simon Hind (guitar) of Lee Curis and the all stars band?
We only know that he worked as DJ at the legandary STAR CLUB Hamburg. After that he also worked asDJ at "Metas Musikschuppen" 1968 in northen Germany.
This discothek is still open and we try to find some historical information about the Discothek and the discjockeys.This year it was the 50 anniversary and it has also the same flair like 50 years ago.Many bands played there before the music career began. (Scopians, The Rattles, The Rustlers, Howard Carpendale, Rare Earth Band etc)
Maybe you have some information about Simon Hind. I can´t find any.
I don't have any information beyond what I got off the internet when I was researching the article. Onthis forum page, there is a 2010 post from a musician, Mike Bankes ("Miban") - websitehere - who says that Simon Hind was "still living in Germany". That's all I know. You may want to try leaving a message on either of the sites that I've linked to. Sorry I can't help any more than that.Ghmyrtle (talk)14:20, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
When you have a minute, could you look up Brown's US R&B chart attributes. His current article states fifteen between 1948 and 1951, which I seriously doubt. Thanks,
Done. Depends how you count them, but he had 12 A-sides and 2 B-sides in the R&B chart over that period. I've noticed some apparent errors in the "complete singles discography" which someone added, which I'll need to get round to looking at sometime - too busy at the moment. Shame I couldn't include "Living Next Door To Alice", of course.Ghmyrtle (talk)10:43, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Could I prevail again, this time on Ms. Adams ? TheAllmusic chart details[4] do not equate with Wiki's claims, or even Allmusic's own biography of her[5]. Is it because she was the featured vocalist under another's name -Joe Morris ? Ohhhh, it's confusing; anyhow Adams' article could do with another referenced source, if you have the time. Saluté.
OK - now done. I suspect that Allmusic doesn't use theBillboard chart details before some point in the mid-50s - or, at least, it doesn't in that case.Ghmyrtle (talk)11:16, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Good article. You teased me with your 'maybe'. No, I have not got a date of birth for him, but circa 1940 must be about right looking at surrounding factors. Probably worth adding a hat note thingy to avoid confusion with his father too.
Do you know anything about this fellow ? I have sort of 'rescued' the article, that previously referred to two completely different musicians !?! In days of yore, you may have shaken your booty, or whatever the expression was, to hisNorthern soul classic, "Don't It Make You Feel Funky". Or, maybe not. The last time I shook my booty, a load of mud and chicken shit fell off. Regards,
Nada. Zilch.Others have tried. The article seems to be as much as anyone knows. And I've never heard him, or indeed heard of him! But the record was produced by the (apparently not personally notable)Pat Vegas, so I've added that to the article.Ghmyrtle (talk)23:12, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Could I ask you to look in your trusty book and confirm, or otherwise,"Cummins Prison Farm", a blues song that debuted on Billboard’s rhythm and blues chart on May 2, 1970, and stayed for five weeks, reaching No. 40.Encyclopediaofarkansas.net. If so, I feel an article coming on. Many thanks,
Splendido. Otherwise in all this, I am getting a little lost. What did we agree (or not) over creating articles forRaymond Hill (tenor sax) ("Rocket 88" and "Mystery Train"),Michael Coleman (blues musician) andEarl Thomas (musician) ? Also doesClarence Garlow, à la "Bon Ton Roula" float your boat ?? The latter's name was found under that bush in my garden; which for the sake of clarity and brevity, and in honour of a completely unconnected conversation, I shall henceforth refer to as a 'Wisteria'. Rather then, in the manner of, "Blimey, Derek's found more hysteria under his wisteria". I've probably had too many wine gums, to be honest.
I'm not sure that we ever got as far as agreeing aWP:CONSENSUS between the two of us.... I'm aware thatEarl Thomas is an embarrassingredlink on my page (what happens when someone writes an article aboutredlinks?), and if you like I'll take him on - but I probably won't feel like doing it for a few days (real world... ) and, personally, at the moment I find writing about obscure (but definitely notable!),figures from the murky past more fun than current active musicians. I'm not sure that Raymond Hill is really notable - although a life in which you both play sax on "Rocket 88" and have sex with youngAnna Mae Bullock is probably a lot more notable than anything I'll ever achieve. I'm happy to leave them up to you if you're that way inclined, though if I'm feeling bored one day I might just come across to your user page and nick one from you!Heigh ho, heigh ho...!.Ghmyrtle (talk)23:28, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Okay. Then it is not in any way or sort agreed, but I will leave Earl Thomas to you (accepting fully that it will be a while down the road) and I will work on the rest - when the mood takes. I fully understand how different facets of Wiki appeal at different times. Variety is the spice of life. I am also mindful that you, and I, are approaching different Wiki milestones before this year is out. I equally comprehend why Wiki can not reach consensus on anything, when two roughly equal and compliant, editors are thrashing hopelessly around on something that is almost a 'given'. Actually on the Disney front, instead of "Heigh ho" (what a brilliant, magical creation, when you think about it), what about "I'm late, I'm late, for a very important date". Frustration truly abounds with me, trying to track down details of the death of that song's creator,Bob Hilliard. Heigh ho and ho hum.
One of those songs, pretty rare, that was never a hit, but a significant proportion of the public loved. Two chords, a punk rock ballad, as if that was possible; and a ditty that somehow could have been number one or lost forever. It was, as we now know, neither ! There does not seem to be that heady mixture of humour, pathos and quirkiness in present day pop. If you willGeorge Formby,Squeeze,Rolf Harris,Morrissey (almost ?) withChumbawamba andNizlopi. The Bad Shepherds' encore included "White Riot", played in a manner ofThe Pogues on acid. Probably not your kind of music at all, but I was much taken with their originality and spirit.
Sounds like just my sort of music actually. Well, maybe not George Formby. Or Morrissey, really. But I saw Squeeze a few times "back in the day" as they say, and the Clash come to that (including the tour when they were supported bySuicide - not a pairing made in heaven, really). Hey ho - half a lifetime ago now ......Ghmyrtle (talk)23:36, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Well you've missed them at Gloucester (4 November) and Hereford (6 November); just Brighton, Fareham, Folkestone and finally London (26 November) to come.[7] I was not sure that they would be musically sound, but they were. I did not mean that they sounded like Formby or Morrissey, just that kind of 'off the wall' eccentricity. My wife said that my face lit up when the Shepherds got going, and she was right. You were never too sure what was coming next; and then "Ace of Spades" was introduced as a 'love song'. Priceless.
I have been adding people to a new category: "Members of The Leadership Council", and you have asked me to explain.
It's a credible organisation with awebsite and with high profile members. They publish annual influential research books as well, which can also be found on their website.
If you feel this is a credible category, please can you advise me on how to update Wikipedia so as it doesn't get deleted? Shall I give a brief overview of it on the category page, or rather create a whole new "The Leadership Council" article on it?
I thinkthis is the link you need (the other one doesn't work). Well, first you need to establish that the organisation isnotable - that is, it has been mentioned in several independent sources. Then, you (or someone) needs to write an article about it, again based onreliable sources. Once that has been done it would be appropriate to set up a category for its members. It seems odd to start a category regarding something about which there is no article, but if you think the organisation is notable and you are intending to create an article about it, it might be OK. Regards,Ghmyrtle (talk)14:12, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
I'm in agreement with this edit, but I think it's worth mentioning it on the talk page as there was a discussion there :) --Nutthida (talk)21:41, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
You've changed your name, haven't you? I was waiting for Bob to respond to my last comment, but you're right, I'll leave a comment there. Thanks.Ghmyrtle (talk)21:45, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Oh, yes, I have - it's my Partners Thai name. Slightly confusing. If I made it seem as though I was in favor of it being kept I didn't mean it like that xD thank you anyway ~ --Nutthida (talk)22:23, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Juke Box Jury
FM! .. that was a rapid (and well amusing) response.We've met before, elsewhere on Wikipedia, so much appreciated, matey.Actually I found it scary that something I took for granted in my memories is just simply lost. I'm hoping to snuffle out even more about this one before it all disappears into the ether - I live within yards of several people who appeared on the program, not to mention someone nearby with a comprehensive collection of 60's magazines I'd kill to own. All good friends = a couple of good, mad nights full of Chardonnay, I think. Of course, any comments and any support appreciated.Brieflysentient (talk)17:34, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
I'd appreciate a beady eye cast over the changes I've made since Friday. You might want to drift by the discussion page also, where I've rambled out a bit of rationale and where the article might go from here. As I've said there, I'm not sure where else it can go from there without perhaps a 'social importance' section, which would be brief but convincing, I think, with a bit of moving around or finer quoting the current stuff plus a few other bits and bobs. I'll look at that later this week. Advice on a peer review or if there's a chance of getting to 'good article' status would be helpful (I've got big shoulders, I can take it!!!).
In the meantime, I'm about JBJ'd out, although it's been great fun - scary how many appearances I can remember vividly, and so much stuff I'd forgotten in random asides (I'm now annoying the kids with the newly re-discovered Milliganism 'Put him in the curry', and plan a delve into Jimmy Edwards still-extant material when I can). Thank you for the feedback you've already given, appreciated. If there's ever a music-based article you want naggling at or support on, or think someone else might find useful, please consider me on the call list.Brieflysentient (talk)14:44, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Could I ask you to take a butchers at your book for Ivory Joe's chart credits. The present Wiki article does not seemingly accord withAllmusic's chart info, here -[8] - but, as you noted before, perhaps Allmusic is not to be relied upon for the early/mid 1950s. Imagine being christened Ivory Joe - I should have been 'Deadly Derek' ! Your middle name could have been 'Fawkes', or 'Mitchell'. We wuz robbed.
Splendid - four #1 R&B hits. I did not expect a chart discography, but thanks. Actually, I've just realised the terrible irony in 'Ivory Joe'. I should have been Nutty Slack Bullamore and youAnthracite 'Amilton.
I found you on the above editing page... you seem to be the only active editor there. Today, I undid just one detail within the new section I had created about places if interest nearby, namelyDruidstone House. As you can see, there isn't a page for this old mansion, so I removed the Wikilink.
To understand my interest in Castleton and the area, please read my user page. It's not very long.
I look forward to your comments on the section I have just created: "Railway".
Hello Gareth. Firstly, I should say that I don't have any special knowledge of, or particular interest in, Castleton itself - it's one of probably dozens of south east Wales pages that I have on my watchlist (I live in Chepstow), so I take a look if there are any substantial edits to it. If you are intending to improve the page (based onreliable sources, obviously!), that's great. There are a few active editors around (or interested in) the Newport area -User:Owain andUser:Martinevans123 spring to mind, but I'm sure there are others as well - who you may encounter here if you stick around. You may also want to think about adding your name atWikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Members. Regarding theredlink for Druidstone House, there's no need to remove the link if there is a likelihood (or a reasonable hope) that an article should be created - I don't know the building, so don't know if that's true in that case (but, if it's not notable, why mention it at all?) Anyway, best wishes,Ghmyrtle (talk)11:49, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello Ghmyrtle, I had already read your user page... I'm impressed. Thanks for the info.
I agree about Druidstone House. I shall remove because historically it is of interest, but now not worth visiting.
GHMyrtle, I had not noticed that my discussion had not been moved (rather than deleted) until after my post. I have made additional coments on that section. I dio not know hy "rBob re born" objected to my comments about Devon. I would suspect that the fact that not everybody identifies with a "Wessex" regnion to be largely uncontroversial in Devon itself. Perhaps we should seek input from others from Devon, rather than "experts" from elsewhere. Bob re-born may have reacted to a link I included to RFoD, but as I have said, I have nothing to do with that site, and simply used it as an example. I do object to proper discussion being rdeniedDewnans (talk)11:44, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
No-one is denying any discussion. What are important are reliable independent sources, due weight, and the fact that any one person's views and opinions are simply irrelevant here.Ghmyrtle (talk)11:48, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
GHMyrtle, I understand, but I would ask why some ( e.g Bob re born) seem to reverse any question that there may be a contrary view. If you want evidence, and I have given some hints above which you could simply Google, then I am happy to provide.Dewnans (talk)11:52, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Many thanks for your input. (Rolls Statue) Next, hopefully, will be the statue of Henry. Steeeeep learning curve for a very old brain cell. Cheers Rob— Precedingunsigned comment added byBuckholt (talk •contribs)11:08, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
No problem - sorry if some my edits seem a bit harsh. I've emailed John Cummings to see how I can best have some input into this project. Happy to help out. Regards,Ghmyrtle (talk)11:27, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Harsh ! Force 10 in the Irish Sea is harsh ! Grateful for help from someone so experienced. Have a good Christmas.— Precedingunsigned comment added by94.194.178.45 (talk •contribs) 17:40, 5 December 2011
If only to include"Come on daddy, get down on your knees, Sock it to my weak spot if you please" (worthy of aGrammy alone for escaping the puritanicals in the hallowed US), I diligently trawled the world of musical rubbish to produce the above article. Sadly, I am awaiting the deletionist squad. Best wishes,
An object lesson in how to make an article out of almost nothing! Good list of song titles - I think we get the picture of where her interests lay.....Ghmyrtle (talk)10:37, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Thank you - well put. Still, Ora must have been quite a gal. Actually, she is somewhat second division compared to sayLucille Bogan or, for my money, the gold medal winner,Lil Johnson.
Gh. As you know, the page was deleted. Some of those who subscribed to it, including the nasty heading "Goodnight", have since moved GoodDay's RFC/U. I have no idea whether you added to it because it no longer exists. If you did add to it you were wrong to do so, as you agreed at the MfD it was an inappropriate article perWP:POLEMIC. However, in answer to your question, it is not attacking you integrity and I apologise if the message fragment upset you. It was part of a longer, multi-talk page discussion with Snowded who was accusing me of making snide comments, bad faith, innuendo and personal attacks and was written to him in that context.LeakyCaldron19:25, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Helloo Guy! Do you patrol new pages? I createdThe Sparkles couple of days ago, and I see in the 'new pages' list that it's still not patrolled, high-lightened yellow. It seems there are no volunteer wikipedians who are interested in a garage rock band article. I remember Diddy Wah Diddy being tagged as not reviewed since it was not patrolled for over a month after being created. I would like to avoid the same happening once more. So, wanted to ask if you could do the patrolling? Thanks in advance. ~Elitropia (talk)13:00, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
I've never actively patrolled new pages, because I've never thought of it, and no-one has asked me before. I'll have a quick look and add it to my watchlist anyway. I've neverheard ofThe Sparkles!Ghmyrtle (talk)13:06, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Alright then, I will really have to wait for someone to patrol it.. hopefully soon! Oh, well, if you like garage rock, you will love The Sparkles, I'd suggest you listen "No Friend of Mine" and "Hipsville 29 B. C."! ~Elitropia (talk)13:14, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Just downloaded "Hipsville 29BC" - excellent, thank you! Doesn't quite match the wonderful "Going All The Way" byThe Squires though, my alltime favourite garage track!Ghmyrtle (talk)15:02, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
"Going All The Way" is indeed a great track, I have so many favorites, countless : ) I'm glad you like the Sparkles, "I Want To Be Free" is a great track as well. By the way, thank you for the edits, just noticed them. ~Elitropia (talk)15:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
All great choices! I love "I'm so glad" cover by the Golden Cups loads, there is a cool footage of the band on youtube. I love tons of Texas bands' tunes like (just comes to my mind now) "be nice" by the Nomads (Fort Worth, TX, there are several same named band), "nothing can bring me down", by the Twilighters.. there are loads, the Coachmen, The Wig, Five Americans, Moving Sidewalks, Knights Bridge and the list goes on! Also, I cannot pass without telling you about The 'In' (Alabama based garage band), their tune "just give me time' is a great fuzz shower : ) Hmm, I guess also I love the tune "you'll never know" by the Original Sinners a lot, too. ~Elitropia (talk)16:25, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
As my playlist just gave me "I'm on my way down the road" by the Wig Wags, I did remember how much I love that tune, too! And there are garage bands the Lemon Drops, the Swamp Rats, Public Nuisance... and these bands have only one (or two) album each, and all of their tunes are great. About Public Nuisance, band had no recordings released during their times, like about 30 years later the band disbanded, two CD compilation album was released, cool one. ~Elitropia (talk)12:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Spent the weekend listening to the Savages (Bermuda band), Live n Wild is their only album, "the world ain't round, it's square", "no no no", "nobody but you" are the ones I like the most and also they have a cool cover of The Animals tune "we gotta get out of this place". I believe you will like, these tunes are all on youtube. Also, the Dirty Filthy Mud (they have only on single released) tune "forest of black" can be considered a master piece, I can say it's one of my all time favorites.. ~Elitropia (talk)11:26, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
The criteria states"The Writer's Barnstar may be awarded to two groups of Wikipedians: Wikipedians writing articles about writers and books, and Wikipedians writing a large number of articles/edits". Well, you've been next to useless at the first, but brilliant at the latter. And you've not got one of these. Congratulations old boy ! -Derek R Bullamore (talk)14:43, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't necessarily mean that any of them are any good, of course... But at least I've never had any deleted, which is something, I suppose. Next might be the idea of progressing them through to GA - if I can motivate myself enough. Or, I could just get a life somewhere else! Anyway, thanks for the messages, folks. :-)Ghmyrtle (talk)21:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Jeanne. I don't think any of them are anywhere near your high standard, though.PS: You can call me Guy too, if you like! ;-)Ghmyrtle (talk)11:45, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
White British
i moved the article so i can use "white british" as an article for all white people in britain (original and foreign) , all the information about "original white people in britain" is kept in "White people in britain"sociald43(TALK)11:19, 16 December 2011 (UTC)This account is a sock puppet of Chaosname and has been blocked indefinitely.
Figured I'd let you known that, as the edit summary points out, I was reverting a edit by a sockpuppet ofChaosname (talk·contribs), who has a long history of suckpuppetry. (see his SPI archive for proof) However, I, of course, have no problem with you reverting my reversion. I am very lenient when it comes to those things. (i.e. I don't mind if someone reverts an edit I do while patrollingCategory:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates, as, if it wasn't an admin re-adding the protection template after reprotecting, I'll usually end up removing it again later)LikeLakers2 (talk |Sign my guestbook!)11:57, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I know - no problem, but I'd rather keep talk page edits here, partly for ease of referring back. Never come across suckpuppetry before though..... :-0Ghmyrtle (talk)12:01, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
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