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Since the post about the numerous errors in theJack and the Beanstalk synopsis was revdeled fromTalk:Jack and the Beanstalk, here it is:

The version in the cited source is the Joseph Jacobs one, which can also be foundhere. Thecurrent summary contains several errors:

• The story never refers to the giant's house as a "castle".
• Jack does not "find the giant's wife in the kitchen". The story specifies that Jack first sees her on the doorstep, outside.
• Could you please give me something to eat? I am so hungry! is not an accurate quote. What Jack says here isGood morning, mum. Could you be so kind as to give me some breakfast.
• There is no boy in here! is also not an accurate quote. What the giantess says isNonsense, dear, you’re dreaming. Or perhaps you smell the scraps of that little boy you liked so much for yesterday’s dinner.
• In the night is not accurate. In the story, the giant goes to sleep after breakfast, and Jack escapes then.
• Jack never hides "under the bed". He hides in the oven the first two times, and in the copper the third time.
• Jack does not meet the giant's wife at all the third time. Rather, he sneaks into the house, probably because she knows by then that he is a thief.
• Help master! A boy is stealing me! is not an accurate quote. The harp simply callsMaster! Master!

All of this can be solved simply by restoringthis version. As far as being "more vivid", a plot summary is not supposed to be vivid. SeeWP:PLOTSUMNOT.

As an aside, I was surprised by how different Andrew Lang's version was. Nevertheless, the current summary would not accurately reflect that one either.201.148.125.126 (talk)05:38, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are permanently blocked for sockpuppetry, so I probably shouldn't be talking with you anyway, but just a quick note: No worries, once I find the time I'll compare our story summary with the printed version we cite and correct any errors we might have made. I won't restore your version and there is no need to talk about it any more – I'll take care of it.Gawaon (talk)06:56, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I don't have an immediate link to any website that produces the power strip itself, but here's a link to a web store's listing of the power strip.

https://mrdiy.com.my/products/hoyo-trailing-socket-4-gang-2m-9023256-001001

The store doesn't mention outright the feature, but notice the sticker on the power strip itself.

I also have a short demonstrating the feature on a similar power strip that also has that feature. Let me know if you want to see that too.RAM (talk)06:43, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The image resolution is too low to read the sticker text, but yes, I can kinda guess it's there. But these are only power strips, which I wouldn't consider sufficiently notable since different manufacturers may have all kinds of models. What about wall sockets in Malaysia? Are theyusually installed with this feature too? If so, it would be notable, but we would still need some kind of reference for it.Gawaon (talk)07:24, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have not yet seen the feature on Malaysian wall sockets. But then again those sockets I've seen so far are older types, I have not been paying attention to newer installations. Nonetheless a quick google shows world-multi type sockets that accept Type-A, Type-I, Europlug and Type-G sockets, for example this one:https://shopee.sg/product/389644615/9562425262?gads_t_sig=VTJGc2RHVmtYMTlxTFVSVVRrdENkV1BNaHBLV2lHSzd2WEZjb2w0eUJubVRqTGM0U2UyME9RRG5DUHl5UFRCQjF1dGVoU1JnUEZ4UnVXR1orTnRYMUpKNmlLSk1MaHJoaUdzT2tMMFNDZEJrUG5WUEVHMzZudHlEL1Q3ZDB5d1I . It does show that these kind of wall sockets are out there, but you're right, it's more of an exception than the norm.RAM (talk)15:18, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But those are terrible multi-multi-sockets which will hopefully not become widespread in any country! Unless we find particular information on specific type C+G hybrid wall sockets becoming widespread in Malaysia (or other countries), I'd propose not to add this to the Europlug artile.Gawaon (talk)17:55, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree to your proposal.RAM (talk)03:12, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, when you file a new SPI report, can you please make sure you use Twinkle or the SPI main page to do it? Both of those will automatically generate the SPI and format it correctly, so a clerk doesn't have to come by and fix it. (In this case since it was an easy block of an IP, I just blocked and removed the filing rather than bothering to fix anything.)

By the way, with really obvious cases like this one, you can report the IPs atWP:AIV. If you leave a link to the SPI case page, they shouldn't decline it as "not obviously vandalism", and AIV is usually faster. --asilvering (talk)18:22, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I had no idea how to do it, so I just copied & pasted from an earlier entry. Will use Twinkle in the future, thanks for letting me know!Gawaon (talk)21:04, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Saw your edit and I 100% agree! :)

Great work!Strongwranglers (talk)09:12, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you 😊Gawaon (talk)10:03, 3 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I just saw your recent work with how you've said theScream queen description is too long, do you have any suggestions on shortening it then? I'm a frequent editor on the page as well. I just wouldn't want to make it too short, and you've been working on the site awhile, I'm still relatively a newer editor (in the grand scheme of Wikipedians). :) –Itsirlpidge (talk)18:48, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! Scream queens aren't really my area of expertise, so I wouldn't be surprised if you knew much more about them 🙂. I don't think the lead as such has to be shorter, but that single sentence with dozens of "queens" in them is sure irregular. I'd say it would be better to keep just about half a dozen (certainly no more than ten) of the best-known ones, and then add a few other sentences summarizing the rest of the article, as the lead is supposed to do.Gawaon (talk)21:34, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestions! I salute you and your work :)) –Itsirlpidge (talk)01:07, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot, the lead looks much better now!Gawaon (talk)07:22, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure but it seems the DOI for that article doesn't exist. It could as well never have existed at all.--Carnby (talk)20:38, 11 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! The DOI 10.1127/zma/82/1998/1 exists and is indeed correct. If I enter it directly ashttps://doi.org/10.1127/zma/82/1998/1 it resolves as it should. However, in the "cite journal" entry, the generated URL doesn't work for some reason – I have no idea why not.Gawaon (talk)07:37, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote to schweizerbart.de and now it works. Thanks anyway.--Carnby (talk)11:02, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, thanks for getting it fixed!Gawaon (talk)20:29, 14 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

i actually don't know what the stylistic guide is for writing about narratives, but previous one basically spoils the plot point of the old man being alive right then, which is generally something to be avoided when writing in general, but again i have no idea what the stylistic guide is (my intention was it to be revealed in the summary at the same point as in the movie, not earlier), so if you could point me in the right direction, i would appreciate it.Haants (talk)03:58, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We don't try to avoid spoilers in plot sections, seeWP:SPOILER. If you don't want to be spoilered, don't read that section.Gawaon (talk)07:18, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you remove my add, ogre can be really have italian heritage, orcus is from roman mithology and then italian!Cartoon Gamer (talk)17:40, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Roman and Italian is not the same and the likely or possible sources of the term are already well-covered in the article. If you think that something relevant is missing, note thatWP:reliable sources are needed for anything added to Wikipedia. It's not about what youthink is true, but about what has beenshown to be true (or likely or plausible).Gawaon (talk)18:47, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I've opened a discussion atTalk:Emily Neves#B-class/GA-class efforts, if you are interested in helping out. Thanks,sjones23 (talk -contributions)21:58, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

British English does not use the term "sedan". It is patently false to claim otherwise. I don't know what your motive is here, whether it's some sort of American chauvinism trying to force American vocabulary into British English, or if you are just genuinely ignorant of how unfamiliar the term "sedan" is to most people in the UK, but the point remains that you are trying to force a misleading tag into the article. It does not use British English. The current tag is anextraordinarily clear instruction to change all of the instances of "sedan" to say "saloon car". I do not understand how you cannot comprehend this.HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk)07:53, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am not changing every instance of "sedan" to "saloon car" because that would be chauvinistic of me in an article which has been clearly established for a long time to not use British English. But if another user were to do so then they would only be following the explicit instructions of the tag. If the article does not use British English vocabulary it does not use British English. I do not understand why you would want the article to have an obvious lie at the top of it.HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk)08:12, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying my best to remainWP:CIVIL here, but it is very difficult to do so when all of my carefully constructed arguments are just met with "well, what if you actually just hallucinated your own dialect" or whatever "that's just your interpretation of British English" is supposed to mean.HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk)08:49, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]