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• Archive 1 - February 2004 to February 2006

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you have blocked this i.p this is a school please unban i have discussed with the students not to vandalise Wikipedia

Greetings

Please contact me on jef_frey_kni_pe_at_g_mail_dot_com(remove all underscores, at = @ and dot .... well, you get the idea.) Was reading article about South African Special Forces, noticed that every one has that sad badge and redrew it quickly. Wanted to give it to you to upload to the article as a replacement. Jpeg/gif your choice.

Jeffrey K.

Hi. I've been following the edits of Alcatel lately, following a few NPOV quasi-vandalisations of some pages I was working on. Of all the edits that s(he) has made so far, I can honestly say that I don't believe that more than 10% were useful, or that more than about 20% were not subsequently reverted by other users. The edits are riddled with factual inaccuracy, usually in attempts to push a political point, and contain frequent use of the term "kaffir" to refer to black South Africans. I've left a (hopefully) fairly peacable suggestion onAlcatel's talk page, and have been trying to defuse some of the edit wars Alcatel has started (by expanding disputed sections with verified, neutral fact). However, I am worried that this will continue. I was hoping maybe you could help me keep an eye on Alcatel's edits, and maybe try and nudge him/her towards a more constructive means of participating in wikipedia. (Trying. Not. To. Get. Angry.) -Kieran21:35, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree about the possibility of RfC's, etc. In case that needs to happen, I've been compiling alist of problematic edits, while I've been fixing the problems (at least the ones that hadn't been reverted immediately). However, I feel that the pattern of edits has shown gradual a decrease in problematic edits since Alcatel joined last year. Alcatel also seems to have made some good faith edits to pages on topics outside of South Africa. Finally, while I disagree with Alcatel's apparently extreme right wing views, I think that in a few cases it's been good to have someone questioning the edits the rest of us are making. I think, in our national pride/liberalism, we tend to get caught up in the rhetoric produced by the government.

For instance, Alcatel has a point about democracy in South Africa: Strictly speaking, the country has been democratic since its creation in 1911, although the right to vote was highly restricted. When the current government speaks of "10 years of democracy", what they really mean is "10 years of democracy for all". I've caught myself talking about 1994 as being the "start of democracy in South Africa", even though this is not strictly accurate. (I've since used "since the end of Apartheid, in 1994" inthe article, which is strictly true, though probably still not the best phraseology.)

My hope is that we can persuade Alcatel to become a valuable contributor, countering our own more liberal systemic bias in South African articles, but doing so by backing things up with hard fact, rather than biased conjecture, as he/she has been doing. If Alcatel's behavior continues to be problematic, I'm hoping we can keep whatever steps are taken civil and constructive. ArbCom should really be an absolute last resort.

Anyway, sorry for cluttering your talk page. (I realise this might be a bit of a rant.) -Kieran11:16, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Well, here it is:Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elf-friend. Best of luck!Banez16:58, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, all the best!-Banez08:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you're wondering why the nomination hasnt been added to the RfA page, I think it was because you accepted just below the official acceptance patch and the bot or whatever didnt move the page. I've moved your acceptance to (I think/hope) the right place. CheersBanez19:37, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How prepared are you to follow WP policy - in particular, how prepared are you to stick to the requirement of consensus for deletion, even if you happen to dislike the article/template etc. in question?Cynical12:03, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You may be interested in joiningWikipedia:WikiProject Chad. No one else is :(.KI01:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (seeWP:ESP/ACM2 andWP:ESP/ACM3). As a result,the charter has been ammended twice (seehere for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see thesummary for more details). Also of note is theValentines ball that will take place inthe Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also,the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".

The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcomingEsperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from12:00 UTC onFebruary 20th to 11:59 UTC onFebruary 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they arealready listed onthe members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time,if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.

Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower^háblame09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi there. I just wanted to congratulate you on your fantastic work on theSouth African Border War and the operations conducted during it. I've always been bugged by the lack of any coverage on that period of the defence force's history, but I've been too busy of late to do much about it. Your work on the units of the SA Army has also been excellent, with a ton of interesting detail. Incidentally, where do you get your info from? Anyway, keep up the great work, and good luck with the Admin nomination (though looking at the votes, I'd say you've got that in the bag). Cheers. —10:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. Those three sites are all good sources, which I've visited before at one time or another (though I guess I should've paid more attention when I was there). I've also been having problems with the SAMU server, which doesn't seem to have been operating for quite a while. I'll see if I can contact the guy who runs it, John Dovey, and see what's happening. Otherwise, keep up the good work! —13:49, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now anadministrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from theadministrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as theMain Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the newadministrators' how-to guide helpful.

While I'm here, are you a friend to elves, or an elf that's friendly? Cheers! --Cecropia15:43, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations Elf-Friend! I knew you'd make it just fine, congrats!Banez15:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. And great job on the new articles :-)Wizzy…☎16:25, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're most welcome, I have every confidence in you. RegardsBanez07:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have received your message. Best wish for your adminship.--Jusjih08:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Got your message Elf-friend, congrats and good luckCynical08:29, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratuations, Elf-friend --Ugur Basak08:48, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! I hope you enjoy yourshiny new stinky old mop! --Deathphoenix13:04, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! Hope you do well!Siva1979^{Talk to me}15:03, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats from me too!!Mushroom(Talk)19:20, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! You deserve it, and I'm convinced you're going to do an excellent job. —13:45, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! (yes, a late one; nonetheless) --WB02:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you will do a great job, we always need new dedicated admins (it's hard to stop vandals etc without responsibe admins to issue blocks when necessary)Tawker06:49, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:[1] I'm sure you'll do a great job. Sorry I didn't vote for you, but I'm sure others made the right decision. —Dunc|☺10:05, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Thanks for adding substantially to the framework of new and complete coverage of the subject. I have enjoyed working with Wiki, and I have a lot of tips for myself too..We need a team of Wiki volunteers working "under supervision" to service all topics relating to ...

Regards,Gregorydavid07:03, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your user name is 'elf friend.' Are you then interested in The Lord of the Rings? If so, if you know anything interested, please could you put it on my talk page? Thanks.--Anthony Orzel12:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for supporting me in my successfulRFA. The admin tools will definitely be handy for dealing with vandalism more swiftly. Please drop a note on mytalk page, should you have questions about any of my actions. -Aude (talk |contribs)00:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to say thank you for voting formy RFA, of course if you ever need a hand, let me know :) -cohesiontalk00:04, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for supporting my successfulrequest for adminship. I'll try to put the admin tools to good and responsible use. If I do anything wrong you know where to find me.Raven4x4x07:26, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks for your support inmy request for adminship (did you know that "adminiship" is not an English word? Unbelievable!). It ended with a tally of (51/0/0). As an administrator, I hope to better help this project and its participants: if you have any question or request, pleaselet me know. -Liberatore(T)12:36, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for supporting me in my request for adminship! It ended with a tally of 39/5/4, and I am now an admin. I'm glad to have earned the trust of the community, and I will make use of it responsibly. Of course, you canlet me know of any comments or concerns you have.

With a million articles in front of me, I'd better get mopping.

rspeer /ɹəədsɹ05:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you have done a lot on this subject too..Where do you get all the time?Regards, GregGregorydavid11:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I shall have a look to see what I can use..CheersGregorydavid08:45, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you are working on this as well.Do you have any information on "Bridge Fourteen" ? I saw the news on TV1 at the time and my PF Major Blaauw from Potch Artillery, 4th Field Regiment, apeared on the news at the front, probably where the advance came to a standstill.The Americans withdrew their support for the exercise at about that time?Gregorydavid14:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other than the article you mention, what other deletions trouble you? I'd be happy to seedeletion review or would undelete stuff that has been deleted under false pretences. Thanks.Harr508:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You should delete the page first before applying{{deletedpage}}.enochlau (talk)08:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was reading your talk aboutTsotsi.. This happens all the time.. Due tofuzzy search input,transliteration issues,disambiguation issues,sloven spelling and ourmulti-lingual user community we need a seamless search facility. Wiki searches are very exact as far as existing articles are concerned. Why can't a Wikipedia search divert to a Wiktionary result where appropriate, and vice versa?CheersGregorydavid10:57, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I am pasting your reply in here so that the issue receives more attention..Regards,Gregorydavid14:11, 17 March 2006 (UTC):[reply]

I agree - the current "interworking" between the different Wikis leaves much to be desired. Kind Regards,Elf-friend11:09, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poloyoe is a not me, I don't even know him. I think that its odd someone would try to be me.

On Your vote for keeping the Stephen Glicker article deleted could you please elaborate as to the evidance brought forth, why you voted to keep deleted? I think the fact he started a Multi-Million Dollar company and Ran it for 8 years alone proves he's noteable. Could you please just explain why you voted that?-Sgore20:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a message for you on#Groundhog_day.Phase411:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, how did I miss this? You sneaked under the radar and now you're an administrator. Well done! I have being so busy getting my new company, e-science, off the ground that I have slacked off abit on wiki but I will make it up. --Jcw6911:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you ever speedy an article with an AfD tag, such asthe aladdin, please head over to the deletion discussion page and close it off (seeWikipedia:Deletion_process#Articles_for_Deletion_page for how). I've covered the example I've given above, but it does make it easier for the grunts over at AfD when you admins clean up your tracks and indicate what the hell is going on :P --Saberwyn11:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks for your help with this article :) I spent hours looking for pics of that temple near Joburg, but didn't know what it was called... turns out you'd taken a pic that was already on wikipedia! Much appreciated,Joziboy 3 April 2006, 13:00 (UTC)

You appear to have deleted the above article, but I am not sure what your edit summary means, as it does not explain why you made the deletion. Can you elaborate? Thanks.Turnstep13:25, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But if you had followed the "what links here" link, you would have seen that this article just survived an AFD with a "keep" vote, which at the least protects it from a speedy delete. Further, I think calling it a simple rephrasing of the title is a bit of a stretch - as you pointed out, it had two external links. A stub, yes, but hardly a CSD A3 candidate.Turnstep14:12, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed this myself. Given the AFD, deletion isn't an option, it needs to be undeleted. A DRV takes more time then remaking the article (and causes needless arguing), but to me, the simple easy thing to do, is just for you to undelete it. --Rob16:09, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think this refers to something fictional rather than nonsensical. Could you please let it run through AFD? -Mgm|^(talk)11:46, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Nevermind. I did a Google search and there's no publications in any credible magazines, books or anthologies. It just looks like a crackpot theory he's pushing. -Mgm|^(talk)11:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Erm, we seem to have crossed our edits somehow. I received that post of yours After I posted the nevermind thing... I'll put his stuff up for deletion. -Mgm|^(talk)11:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just noticed you proposed my stub onGeorgia Tann for deletion. Is she not a legitimate topic or did I just not provide enough info? I am doing research now to write a more indepth article on her and the Tennessee Children's Home Society. Couldn't find any articles specifically about that, just the ones onadoption andorphanages. It was a terrific scandal at the time and has affected thousands of people's lives, so I thought it was wikipedia-worthy. If not, no problem, I'm just curious to know the reason. Thanks. --Bluejay Young12:27, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just received your message advising me what to do with this article; will do, and thanks. --Bluejay Young12:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is apparently some confusion regarding his google test notability.He is written about mostly as "stephen dare". If you google check him this way you will see that there are actually multiple pages of listing and hundreds of articles and references.Thank you very much! I am working hard on this article, this guy is really an interesting and great addition.Carstenboswell.Carstenboswell18:17, 5 April 2006 (UTC)carstenboswell[reply]

Hello there. You have proposed the articleSkits-o-phrenics for deletion without providing a reason why in the{{prod}} template. You may be interested to know that you can add your reasoning like that: {{prod|Add reason for deletion here}}. This will make your reasoning show up in the article's deletion notice. It will also aid other users in considering your suggestion on theProposed Deletions log. See also:How to propose deletion of an article. Best,Sandstein04:44, 6 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dankie!

Yes, it's maybe a little late, but it does not matter, it is always very nice to be welcomed by someone! I noticed that you are a South African, and that great, because I am really interested in you're countries history and it's people. I would be very interested in having a chat about you're country and other things concidered.User:Dr.Poison

I understand, many users from al around the world, but don't worry about! You visited Sweden? Stockholm, maybe? I am propably going to visit SA in the future. As you maybe already I am very intrested in SA and it's past. I have writen some articles to Wikipedia about SA and some articles that are realeted to the subject of apartheid. I have also wrtiten a article about the afrikaners to the swedish wikipedia. How is it going in SA, by the way? Is the weather nice? We have snow and rain up here! ��Dr.Poison10:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Stockholm is clean and beatiful, and during the summer there is many events. We have three top soccer teams in Sthlm, so it's usually packed with soccerfans during the july. Is soccer a popular sport in SA? I know that many S-africans are rugby supporters, but howzit with soccer? When you say "ups and downs" what do you exactly mean with it? Because the only thing we in Europe know about SA is usually about apartheid or crime in SA, so I don't know if my picture of SA is maybe not real. Kind regardDr.Poison13:07, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I had a friend who visited SA (Tulbagh, near Cape Town) in 2000. One of the things that he told me was about the crimerate in SA and that it is not safe to walk freely in Cape Town and that it is best to always use you're car when going somewhere. Ive heard the same from other people visiting SA, but I'm not realy sure if I should belive in it? Is it realy so criminal that you can't walk on the streets in SA? The second thing that I am wondering about is how people feel about the "new South Africa"? I am wondering about this because I have heard that there is still many people who are not so happy with everything in SA.Dr.Poison16:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! Yes, I know that there is also places in Sweden I would not enter at night. But the reason I asked about it was that I did not know if I could belive in it. But now I know that it is only "turist talk" . And about my last question, there is of course many people who are dissatisfied with their countries. For example, we in Finland have a large unemployment (10%) so we have many people who are depressed. As You know my country was never apart of the Sovietunion, but we had a large business together and a large amout of or export went to USSR. So after the fall of USSR, we lost or tradingpartner and many people became unemployd. So in the begining of the 90's we had a unemployment rate of 20% maybe? So many are still covering from that. But back to you're country, that is far more intressting than mine ;) As you get many turists and visitors from european countries, and many of them are of course intressed about the past, or more exactly, Apartheid. Do white South Africans find it hard to talk about the past, as many of them where positive to apartheid? I would like to make it clear, my intention is not to hurt or bleame anybody with my questions. With kind regards �from Sweden, �Dr.Poison12:55, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just make it clear... I am finnish but I am living in Sweden, so you know. At this time it is usual spring weather, about +10 celsius (don't know if you have celsius or farenheit in SA?) and sunny with clouds. How is it down there? Where in SA do you live? I live in Stockholm, or exactly in a suburb to Stockholm. Do you really mean that ex-national party ministers claim that they where not supporters of apartheid? Don't sounds a litle od . . .Can one say that Apartheid is viewed by whites as a system that was ment as a good thing but turned out bad? And I'm not sure if I am taking a step to long, but what was you're own view on apartheid (I'm not sure how old/young you are). . . I have a friend who is half South African. He lived in SA and fought in the border war in the 80's. He told me that people in SA are woried about what is going to happen. And that many farmers are woried about the governments view on Zimbabwe. If you want to have my email, I have a hotmail adress: superfinnen@hotmail.com �Dr.Poison19:49, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You! I will check it out as soon as possible. I have a small question about afrikaans, what does "Rhodesië gee oor" mean? I saw it in a movie called "A dry white season", in the scene a man read a newspaper called "Die Uitkyk". I understand it is something about Rhodesia, but I don't understand what gee oor means?. . .Dr.Poison13:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank you! I thought it was something like that! Yeah, I think it is a fake name. I don't know if you know the movie, but you maybe know the book writen by André Brink? �Dr.Poison14:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Hi! How is it going down there? Have watched any fotball yet? Have you had time to answer my email? I have started to play cricket up here, and it seems like a great game! Are you a fan of cricket? I saw SA win AUS in a fantastic game i March, won by one wicket if i remember right! The summer has finally arived up here, +30' and sunny! But soon it is going to rain... well, going to watch some fotball now!Dr.Poison13:15, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As You maybe already have seen I have writen a article about theSouth African referendum, 1992. I was wondering if You would like to read it through and give you're thoughts about it? �Dr.Poison21:06, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I notice that youdeleted this page as a prod. However, the prod taghad been removed. As such, I have restored the page perWP:PROP. It is currently on AFD.Stifle (talk)14:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you thatthe elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on2006-04-29. Please votehere. Thanks. --Celestianpower^háblame20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Baie dankie vir die gawe woorde; inderdaad is dit iets wat ek graag sou wou doen. Gee my asb. 'n paar dae om daaroor te dink (ek sien die reëls vir adminskap is tans nogal streng), en ek sal vir jou laat weet. Dankie,dewet|✉15:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, ek't so effe hiervan vergeet ;) I will gladly accept your nomination.dewet|✉09:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dis 100% :) Ek's heeltemal rustig.dewet|✉10:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I've filled it out and added it to WP:RFA. Nou's dit net duim vashou ;)dewet|✉15:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nogal depressing sover. Lyk asof almal vashaak op iets wat eintlik klein is. Oh well.dewet|✉17:24, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wel, ek wil jou hartlik bedank vir al die moeite, veral dat jy jouself ook in die spervuur gesit het mbt. die werwing. Ek het maar 'n lae profiel gehandhaaf, maar ek't al jou werk opgelet en waardeer dit baie. Hierdie is maar vir my 'n geval van "you can't please all of them, all of the time". Ek't vrede gemaak met die uitkoms – ek't my bes gedoen, maar dit is bitter moeilik om teen die stroom te gaan; die feit dat niemand vir my iets konkreet gegee het om aan te spreek nie het natuurlik ook niks gehelp nie. Ek voorsien in elkgeval dat die 'crat nie veel beweegruimte gaan hê nie. Maar ja,c'est la vie! Miskien later weer. Vriendelike groete,dewet|✉11:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Help, they want to vote off theTimeline of South African history from wikipedia. Please vote atWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of South African history. Thank you --Jcw6920:05, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your vote, the nomination for deletion has been withdrawn. --Jcw6912:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I responded to your comment about my transwikification and subsequent tag for speedy deletion at mytalk page. Thanks.TheProject16:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Many thanks forbarnstar - very much appreciated!Zaian10:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making me a "Barn Star", but why "barn"?

PS, I just want to thank my family, as well as the Flying Spaghetti Monster for this honour!

HiElf-friend,

I do appreciate your support. There is so much to do on Wiki and so many examples of such good work that one can only but try..Gregorydavid09:39, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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—Ian MankaTalk to me‼03:18, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for voting on my RFA, however I withdrew my nomination. I don't want people to have the impression that I'm not experienced enough, so I will nominate myself later once I'm more experienced. You raise a good point; good to see a believer in the "administrators are no big deal" philosophy. —THIS IS MESSEDOCKER(TALK)20:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I always thoughtAECI was originally AE&CI, not AE&I. Do you have a reference for AE&I?Zaian21:47, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I wondered if it was a typo. You're right, it was AE&I until 1944, then AE&CI until 1976, and since then just AECI.Zaian14:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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hi! I don't really know but mySouth African referendum, 1992 article has been listed as aArticles with unsourced statements. I have put a scource to the discussion, put I don't really know if I have done something wrong or right? Then there is the article about theConservative Party of South Africa, I wrote some new info there and I have a scource at the discusion page for the facts. If you could have a look at those two things and tell me if I have done something wrong... I am actually realy unsure if I have done something stupid or violated something...Dr.Poison11:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I well take care of it soon! Did you have a look at the CP article?Dr.Poison11:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have now putten the source to the article, it is the same source to both "things".Dr.Poison12:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, how do you get that "This user is proud to be...."? And btw I have put my vote on dewet! �Dr.Poison19:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the heads up, Dewet can count on my support. We need more of this bush telegraph to keep other like minded South Africans in the loop --Jcw6915:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, could I ask you to stop leaving messages regarding Dewet's RFA? There are some editors that would consider that spam, and in any case solicitation like that is considered bad form by many editors. It's been known to blow up in peoples face before and rarely does any good. Thanks,Rx StrangeLove06:36, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think if you've tracked RFA in the past you'll see that attempts to solicit votes or to "spam" user pages have drawn some fire. It's a touchy issue. Bottom line is that there was some complaining about the messages you were sending, and for good or ill they do affect RFA's. You may consider the reasons unfair and unsubstantiated but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and the last thing we need is to encourage a culture where challenging large numbers of votes (oppose or support) is accepted. How would you feel if someone contacted all the supporters and questioned their judgment? Anyway, I made the request and you can take what you think is useful from it. Speaking for myself, I don't agree thatWP:BITE is not an issue in this case.Rx StrangeLove04:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elf-friend, sorry about the above. There must be somehow we can contact other wikiusers that have common interests as ourselves. I am keen on knowning when other users that I have had alot of contact with are up for Admin or SA article up for vote ect. My thoughts are moving to some kind of mailing list that is controlled by a select few, for example yourself, Impi, Wizzy, Banes, PZFUN and me to name a few.

Anyway here is something of interest, the Africa Award has been proposed as an official award, we could sure use your input at theproposal page - Thank you! --Jcw6908:10, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I know I can refer to you in this instance. I created a new article today and before I was done edittingKees Bruynzeel was up for deletion. I responded as instructed by adding the "hang-on" label, motivated retention at discussion page and improved the article further..Now it is gone a few hours later..Please help..Thank youGregorydavid15:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for butting in, butthis discussion is relevant.dewet|✉15:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I've already started working on it ;) I assume we just move it from where its now to its final location when done, right?dewet|✉06:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So, I think it should be un-speediable (!) in itscurrent form. What do you think?dewet|✉15:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I think we're done here ;) I just moved it anyway (while keeping a copy of the content), and it seems to have worked fine. The talk page wasn't moved (due to the existing one there), but there's nothing important there anyway. So both the temp redirect and temp talk page can be deleted now, I think.dewet|✉07:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks and It's cool with that email, I understand. Do you if it's possible to put istead of SA for example Finland? �Dr.Poison17:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it =) So there is no need of help now =PDr.Poison17:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Elf-friend, great job on the Border War article. I was wondering if you could give some sources for the information you're using. I'd like to greatly expand it but need some sourcing before I can start. Dankie!Páll^{(Die pienk olifant)}18:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for that, although Ireally don't think I deserve it (give me an example of anything I did that warrants it). Could you perhaps put it on my user page, next to that undeserved Africa Award?Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen)14:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, it's done. I listedCape Town as a featured article candidate. Take a lookon its FAC page and have a vote. Thanks!Páll^{(Die pienk olifant)}06:13, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dankie vir jou moeite met dieAfrikaners artikel. Ek het maar net gesien dat die ding 'n gemors was en wou dit bietjie reguit trek. Ek het nie baie inligting bygevoeg nie, en het ongelukkig nie 'n bron vir die 300 000 in Engeland nie, aangesien dit reeds daar was. Ek het die Afrikaner, Kaapse Hollander en Boer goed net probeer rangskik in 'n logiese orde, en kan nie instaan vir die juistheid daarvan nie. Persoonlik dink ek dat die term "Boer" net 'n troetelnaam is wat deur verregses geskaak is. Ek het gehoop dat my klassifikasies 'n tipe van 'n kompromie sou teweegbring. Die term "Afrikaanses" is deur Elna Boesak geskep na aanleiding van haar en Allan Boesak se huwelik, ek dink egter nie dat dit formeel erken word nie, maar dit maak vandag deel van die omgangstaal uit. Ek gee nie om as jy redigeer soos jy goeddink nie.

Ek sukkel bietjie om balans by dieVolkstaat enOrania bladsye te behou. Ek is wel 'n ondersteuner van die selfbeskikkingskonsep, maar ek dink dat ekstremiste die artikels of verregs of heeltemal anti-Afrikaner en rassisties wil pluk. Ek is nie seker wat die Wikipedia beleid is nie, maar ek dink nie dat beskuldigings van rassisme in artikels geplaas kan word nie. Ek sal dit daarom waardeer indien jy na die besprekingsbladsye van die twee artikels kan kyk.

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Hey there, I saw this question[2] and was very disturbed. Any chance you'd help me by adding to my reply on the user's talk page?Páll^{(Die pienk olifant)}21:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, The actual school that i'll be placed in has yet to be finalised but i do know that it will be in Cape Town. I've been told before that Cape Town would be one of the safest and most charming cities in Africa. CheersArguss 12:30 24 June 2006

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I read your comments on theTalk:Afrikaner page and wonder if you could help in a discussion surrounding a category (Category:Afrikaners) to which all pages for Afrikaans speaking people are now being added (unfairly in my opinion). I have had a discussion with the user on my talk page and I'm starting a discussion on one such affected page:Okkert Brits. Thanks. --Deon Steyn09:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Jammer, Elf-friend, om weer op jou knoppie te druk oor dieAfrikaner artikel. Ek het 'n kategorie vir Afrikaners geskep, en almal wat op dieList of notable Afrikaners was in die kategorie gelys sowel as verskillende artikels wat Afrikaners raak. Nou is daar skrywers wat van my verwag om bewyse voor te lê dat mense soosOkkert Britswel 'n Afrikaner is voordat ek die klassifikasie doen. Ek sal dit waardeer indien jy ook 'n inset sal lewer bytalk:Afrikaner. Dankie. -Gemsbok107:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Cheetah D.jpgRossrs (talk)08:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Elf-friend! An article you have been involved with has been the subject of much discussion. If you can help with these minor issues please see Talk:River Teme (sections on navigability), and leave any comments there.--Kudpung (talk)23:59, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have recently overhauledWikiProject South Africa with the following:

• Improving collaboration of participants by adding anOpen tasks section with specific as well as common tasks
  • Added link to the CatScan tool to find articles needing cleanup, referencing and expanding
  • Added common tasks that should be performed onPortal:South Africa
  • Added information on how to add Geographical coordinates
  • Added articles missing Images
  • Added assessment information
• Improving the layout to make access to information easier
• Added simple "How can I help?" instructions for new project members
• Extended theResources section to assist participants in finding South Africa related information
• Added bot generatedArticle alerts
• Added a bot generatedCleanup listing
• Added more information ontemplate usage
• Added a section onlanguage usage
• Improved thecategories section with trees forcategory:South Africa Wikipedia administration andcategory:South Africa
• Added link toWikipedia Books
• Marked inactive sections of the project as inactive

Comments, constructive criticism and suggestions for improving it further are welcome --NJR_ZA (talk)07:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Elf-friend! Thank you for your contributions. I am abot alerting you that5 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. Thebiographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensureverifiability, all biographies should be based onreliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current100 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the{{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:

1. Frederik van Zyl Slabbert -Find sources: Google (books ·news ·scholar ·free images ·WP refs) ·FENS ·JSTOR ·TWL
2. Raymond Ackerman -Find sources: Google (books ·news ·scholar ·free images ·WP refs) ·FENS ·JSTOR ·TWL
3. Mamphela Ramphele -Find sources: Google (books ·news ·scholar ·free images ·WP refs) ·FENS ·JSTOR ·TWL
4. Fatima Meer -Find sources: Google (books ·news ·scholar ·free images ·WP refs) ·FENS ·JSTOR ·TWL
5. Danny Jordaan -Find sources: Google (books ·news ·scholar ·free images ·WP refs) ·FENS ·JSTOR ·TWL

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk)16:55, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo are google maps allowed to be included into an article? if so what should i answer when it comes to copy protection? see for instanceVanderkloof DamFlagman (talk)13:22, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The articleList of Afrikaners has beenproposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Page obsolete given the existence of an equivalent category (Afrikaner people).

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