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Happy editing! Signed,Imzadi 1979 20:00, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Junction lists

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I just wanted to mention that many of the Malaysian highway articles have big problems with their junction lists, so it's good to see that you're taking some steps to fix them.

Many articles do not follow the proper format perMOS:RJL, although some are using the templates and coming much closer. The column layout is almost up to the standards and the improper background colors are mostly eliminated. That will be a big help, but it isn't the only issue.

Once the column layout is corrected, the biggest issue is the usage of some of these templates to add graphics to the table. We have to remember that Wikipedia is written for a general audience and an international audience. No article should assume that we've passed a driving test in Malaysia to know what all of the little sign graphics mean. Additionally, because of how they are used, there are accessibility issues for people using screen readers to read articles.

If you look at an American highway article, likeInterstate 275 (Michigan)#Exit list, the number of graphics is minimal, every graphic is at the start of the line within a table cell so that it doesn't break up the flow of the text, and the text next to it has some explanation of the graphics. If the graphics in that exit list were removed tomorrow, readers would still understand everything there.

We also condense the text to keep it from being so redundant, which aids in reading the table. The standard format for the destination of an intersection or interchange should be something like:

[graphics] highway designation(s)/road name(s)destination(s) reachable from that road

We shouldn't repeat the graphics and highway designation multiple times, once for each destination. Look atexit 17 on I-275, and you'll see that it lists all of I-94's destinations (Chicago, Ann Arbor, Detroit) after the dash. The airport sign is included, and importantly, the airport itself is included in the list of destinations after the dash. It's simple and compact, unlike exit 107 onSkudai Highway#List of interchanges and junctions.

Even on an article dealing with tolling, we would not use the graphics for the transponders. We would mention the transponder options in the text of the article, or maybe in the notes column.

I think a lot of these formatting things were done before because it "looks cool", but it doesn't help our readers understand the information that's supposed to be presented.Imzadi 1979 20:55, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have a question regarding{{waterfall sign}}. Is that image used on actual highway signage?Imzadi 1979 01:47, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have verified that the image does not represent actual signage, as shown in theMalaysia Federal Route_6#List_of_junctions (here), and that other routes also include junctions to waterfalls.DiaoBaoHuaJian (talk)04:29, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We have a principle about junction lists that we don't include graphics are not in the signage. If there isn't a waterfall logo on the signs, then we shouldn't put one in the junction list tables at all. The same goes for any of the other various sign logos that are in use.
I have other questions that I want to ask in a continuing dialog to help sort through the overload with these tables.Imzadi 1979 05:59, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon Please donot introducelinks in actual articles touser pages orsandboxes, as you did atList of state roads in Malaysia. Since these pages have not been accepted as articles, user pages, sandboxes and drafts are not suitable for linking in articles. and such links are contrary to theManual of Style. These links have been deleted, please do not re-add any such links, thank you -Arjayay (talk)11:45, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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