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Hello! I'm afraid you misunderstood my intentions with my edits. I certainly did not mean to censor or whitewash anything, as you said. I did not delete the information that was in the template (and which you have now restored), but simply moved it to the appropriate section, where I expanded on it and supplemented it with sources. I came here just to find a consensus and avoid an edit war, even if it's just a matter of details, and I certainly don't think we would have reached that point (the only thing I have already changed is the opening sentence, because the part you had inserted didn't make much sense within the sentence and created confusion; it seemed that “convinte for racing” was his nickname XD. Furthermore, being encyclopaedic as an entrepreneur and not as a criminal, that part should not even be there but in a specific section, as with any other additional “activity” of the biographee that has no encyclopaedic value. I therefore moved the part to the dedicated section below. In simple terms, I integrated the sources you provided with those already present). The other things to correct would be, first of all, the template. Do you think that parameter dedicated to criminal charges in the template is necessary? I read in the template sheet that it is optional, and since criminal charges are not the focus of the entry, I thought about removing them. In any case, if we decide to keep it, we need to integrate it. He was not only convicted of rape but also of drug possession, and then, if I am not mistaken, the rape conviction was ultimately for only one girl, not “several”. Secondly, do you really think that the information about the two companies being unicorns is irrelevant? Perhaps it could be integrated into the body of the entry instead of the introduction. Let me know! You are surely far more expert than me, I'm on wikipedia only from 2023, while you it's been decades since you started to edit. Respect.9002Jack (talk)11:14, 22 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks for the heads up. First of all, I believe this discussion is more pertinent to the article talk page :) and I'd continue it from there after my reply.

That said, my opinion is that the subject is encyclopedic because ofboth his entrepreneurial careerand his criminal convictions. Media coverage is substantial for either: it is not just a minor part of an overall biography of an entrepreneur, it is one of the two things for which he is known. In popular culture he is almost certainlymore known for the criminal episodes than for his entrepreneurial career. I disagree, therefore, that this part of his life should be removed from the lead or the infobox.

As for details:

• As far as I understand, the rape conviction is for at least two girls (e.g.[1]) and further there is another conviction for attempted sexual assault ([2]).
• I cannot find proper info on the drug possession charges (I'm sure there are, I'm asking for sources on that since what I see covers mostly the sexual assault and related charges)
• The companies being unicorns seems a minor quirk to me (but YMMV); it seems it is an arbitrary classification of companies. It seems relevant to me in articles about the companies more than Genovese, but if we keep it in the article, I'd keep it in the section about his entrepreneurial activities.

Thanks a lot for your input!cyclopia^speak!12:29, 22 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, just curious. Why did you use mdy dates when dmy dates are standard in Italy?? RegardsDenisarona (talk)12:31, 30 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this is not the Italian wikipedia :) is there a MOS guideline about that?cyclopia^speak!16:18, 30 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This is the English language wikipedia. It is standard to use dmy dates in the article set in the country where dmy dates are normal (e.g. France, Italy, Britain, Ireland, etc.). It is standard to use mdy dates in the article set in the country where mdy dates are normal (e.g. The United States). RegardsDenisarona (talk)07:54, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing this. Would you kindly link the relevantWP:MOS? :)cyclopia^speak!10:45, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

MaybeMOS:DATETIES.Denisarona (talk)11:54, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It seems that a format is preferred only when dealing with «topics with strong ties to a particular English-speaking country». For other countries, no format seems preferred. Anyway feel free to edit and put dates in dmy format, if you wish.cyclopia^speak!12:15, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

It's not something that I wish. For example, in most European countries, the standard use is dmy dates - there is no connection to the English language.Denisarona (talk)06:57, 1 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Also check outDate and time notation in ItalyDenisarona (talk)06:59, 1 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Listen. I'm Italian. I know how date and time is written in Italy. If you prefer another format for the article,be bold and change that. If there is a specific guideline that I am not following, let me know about that (the one you linked does not seem relevant). Otherwise, I feel this conversation is useless. Have a wonderful day. :)cyclopia^speak!10:13, 1 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]