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Pipe sorting

Noticed your edit ofGlenn Davis; absolutely no complaint about it, nor any harm done, but to save you needless editing time in the future, the pipe sort is unaffected, alas, by anything after the first word of it. The purpose of the pipe sort is merely to alphabetize him correctly, after which it doesn't care. Thus, thru the marvels of computer stuff, "|Davis" is sufficient to get him listed as "Davis, /remainder of article name/". Notice for example that hestill is not listed asDavis, Glenn Woodward in the category lists, for exampleCategory:West Point graduates; it would indeed be nice, rather than the awkward listing as it stands, but I, at least, know of no way of doing that. Best,Bill 18:58, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay. No problem. Thanks. --Bender235 21:21, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Italian-Americans

Can you please help me in understanding how one qualifies as Italian-American? Does that imply that they have citizenship in both Italy and the U.S/Canada? Would it mean that both parents are of Italian ancestry, but a citizen of the U.S. (or vice-versa)? One parent? Or possibly just having a last last name that sounds Italian (or Italian with an American sounding name)? How many generations, or at what percentage of blood relation does it take to still be Italian-American?I am asking because there are no German-American, or Russian-American, or Brazilian-American categories, yet the Italian-American category is quite extensive.Cacophony 04:14, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

I guess someone's Italian-American if his family is originally from Italy. But why do you ask me? I didn't create that category, I was just adding people that were missing. --Bender235 09:03, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Deletion tag removed

Why did you nominate my articlePaul Grimes for speedy deletion? I shall remove the tag.Ncik 01 Apr 2005

I just don't see how this person is worth an article. However, if want to keep it, it's ok. --Bender235 00:51, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

To make fire

hello,I try to translate a page from french to english. To do it I copy/paste the french version on the english version page and translat it stpe by step. So can i do it by this way or not ? You wnat to delete this page because it's too much french inside ?tell me how to process.Byeecitizen (on the fr.wikipedia.org or ecitizen@free.Fr) thanks for reply

Michael Michai Cardinal Kitbunchu

Please use the "move" function if you want to move an article to a new location. If the move isn't possible for whatever reason, please list it onWikipedia:Requested moves. Moving articles by copy-and-paste is a bad idea, as it destroy the editing history.andy 13:02, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okay. My bad. Won't happen again. --Bender235 13:04, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I fixed it already - if any edits by you were lost in the process, please feel free to redo them.andy 13:07, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Lead vs. led

"Lead," the element, rhymes with "led," the past tense and participle of "lead," the verb (which rhymes with "read" and "reed," but not "read" or "red," just to illustrate the perversity of English pronunciation and spelling), but should not be confused with it. So when you are referring to theRick Barry-led Oaks, please use the correct form. You are not alone in this, but you are a prolific writer, so a word to the wise should help avoid this problem in the future.24.126.41.116 13:01, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC) akaUser:Italo Svevo

Ok, thanks. --Bender235 13:03, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Change in the purpose of thelist of cardinals

You changed this on April 6th to a list of cardinals living now. Where are the others?Michael Hardy00:22, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

FGrH

I want to thank you for correcting the spelling of this source in theGolden Fleece article. I am curious, how did you find the misspelling? --Canon16:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Search. I was looking for "FGrHist" etc. That's it. And since I am German, it was easy to see that "... der griechischer Historiker" was wrong. ;-) --Bender23515:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
I think this is an example of a very interesting "invisible hand" process that improves Wikipedia. If you don't mind I have a couple more questions for you as an agent of the "invisible hand." TheGolden Fleece article does not actually contain the text "FGrHist," so did you go to the trouble of trying several searches using different key words to locate all references? Or did you just happen upon it while reading theGolden Fleece article? What motivated you to make this link? Did you create the entry for FGrHist?
So right now I'm the object of some sort of scientific study, or what? ;-) I wasn't only looking for "FGrHist", that's why I wrote "etc." behind it. I took "FGrHist", "Jacoby", "Fragmente der griechischen Historiker", and so on, in order to create links on that articles toDie Fragmente der griechischen Historiker. I did create that one. But actually there was already an article on this book, namedFragmente der griechischen Historiker, so some admin merged both articles a few minutes after I created the first one. BTW: Why are you asking me all that stuff? --Bender23522:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
No sceintific study at all. I was just impressed that you had done so much work to find the articles that needed linking up and I was wondering why. Thanks again for doing it.Canon04:02, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Sure. That's what Wikipedia is all about. Helping each other to improve the whole project. --Bender23509:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Move of New Atlantis to Nova atlantis

Thanks for thinking of doing this, but English is generally preferred over original titles. Please seeWikipedia:Naming conventions (use English). I have moved it back to its original title. Thanks --Reflex Reaction (talk)•14:59, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I didn't knew the policies in English Wikipedia. In German wikipedia, the original title is prefered. --Bender23513:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey I appreciate you updating the succession boxes for Ohio State Basketball coaches. Saved me some research time as I plan on writing articles for all of them. --mmeinhart17:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. But I'm still not sure about how counting the years a coach has been with the team. For example, Randy Ayers has been coaching the Buckeyes from the 89/90 to the 96/97 season, and O'Brien from 97/98 to 03/04: should we write "Ayers 89-97, O'Brien 97-04" or "Ayers 90-97, O'Brien 98-04"? --Bender235 22:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I like it the first way you have it, starting with the year that the coach began and disregarding the season as every college basketball season runs over yearly. --mmeinhart22:24, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok. --Bender23522:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah you're right...by the looks of the info you sent me, it looks like the 2nd way by season is the best way to go. Thanks for the input.mmeinhart03:08, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

College basketball coaches

Hi there. I just wanted to encourage you while you're making categories for college basketball, to please do two things: (1) follow the naming conventions inCategory:College football teams, where we try awfully hard not to use shorthand like "SFC" and "NAU" when the school's abbreviation is not well known (unlike, say, LSU or USC); and (2) link the category to a basketball category, which links to the school category. Check out any of the other categories to see how that's done. As a general rule, we don't create categories unless we have three or four players, but that's been disregarded lots of times. Anyway, thanks!--Mike Selinker08:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok. --Bender23521:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

David Gavitt

Thanks for the correction. I must have looked at the list of '06 inductees 10 times yesterday and never saw his name! My apologies.Joe16:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Drazen Petrovic

I've been a little slow to respond. SeeTalk:Dražen Petrović.Damir18:02, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


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Jürgen Habermas

There is no referencing, and there are too many lists throughout the article. I can't verify a lot of the information in the article as well (and there are no sources). --GoOdCoNtEnT22:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay. --Bender23522:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

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Hello, Though it is hard to quantify this kind of thing, and it is to some extent a subjective judgement, I would suggest that a practice which was adopted throughtout ancient Greece, and which informed art, politics, philosophy, sports, and the military, and which is thought by a number of modern scholars to have been at the root of the "Greek miracle" deserves to be considered as having "top" importance. I am talking about Greek pederasty, of course. Is there some specific reason why you removed that label from the article?Haiduc20:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't see it as "Top" important from an encyclopedic standpoint. I doubt it is as important as sayAncient Rome orPeloponnesian War. --Bender23521:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
"The erotic relation of men to youths was the necessary and sole preparation, to a degree unattainable to our comprehension, of all manly education." —Nietzsche
There are kmany others that attest to the critical importance of pederasty, but I do not think it necessary to trot them all out. Unless you can come up with countervailing sources suggesting a lesser importance I suggest we revert.Haiduc02:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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Very nice. Thanks. :-) --Bender23510:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

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Hi,

I noticed you just contributed the article about theJustus von Dohnányi. I just wanted to inform you that you can post any Germany-related articles atPortal:Germany/New articles andPortal:Germany/New article announcements. I have gone ahead and posted the article on both pages.--CarabinieriTTaallkk22:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

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Okay, thanks for that information. --Bender23523:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

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OJ Mayo

Thanks for the touch up job on the article. Good work.youngamerican(ahoy-hoy)15:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

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Joachim Fest

Thankyou for classing this article as "start class." I look forward to you contributing your vast knowledge of German history and literature to improving it.Adam09:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

reference to Jie of Xia

Hello!! Thanks for adding a reference to the article Jie of Xia (about the consequences of the eruption of Thera.Guss218:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Du kannst übrigens auch Deutsch mit mir sprechen, da ich gesehen habe, dass du "sehr gute Deutschkenntnisse" hast. --Bender23519:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

O.J. Mayo

I reverted your above page move, but I wanted to give you the courtesy of explaining my action. As you can seehere, the format that you proposed is generally correct. However, in the same section, the guideline reads "An abbreviation of a first or last name (or omitting punctuation marks and spaces as described above) is only possible if this can be considered as a well established and generally used subject's name or nick name."

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Edit summary

Hello. Please don't forget to provide anedit summary. Thanks, and happy editing.

Disavian (talk/contribs)22:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Bender235

I just want to let you know that I change the color for the Titans player in their info box because the color is similar to the Houston Texans. Thanks --Phbasketball602:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Reggie Ball

Do we know thatReggie Ball is going pro? If so, can you provide a source? —Disavian (talk/contribs)01:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

He is a senior, isn't he? If he is not in the 2007 NFL Draft, feel free to change the infobox. --Bender23508:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
He is a senior, but I have no idea if he's going into the draft. —Disavian (talk/contribs)08:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Aren't seniors automatically eligible? I think so. That's why only underclassmen declare for the Draft. --Bender23508:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Dominic Robinson

Hi. I wondered if you were planning to fixthese following your recent page move. I was about to do it, but I don't want to get into an edit conflict if you're doing the same! Regards,CiaranG14:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll do. --Bender23514:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

2007 NBA Draft

Please stop adding the list of players. As I said in the discussion, there is no reference provided, nor is there any explanation to the rankings. If you even took a look at the mock drafts listed on the bottom, none of them even agree outside of the top two players. Lastly, no player has even declared for the draft yet. It would be ridiculous to put up a list of players if a player may not even declare for the draft. Do not add the list again unless you provide a reasonable explanation.75.177.47.18301:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I have asked many times for you to comment, yet you insist on adding the player projections without doing so. Please comment.75.177.47.18323:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

NFL player infobox colors

I saw that you took the color out of Joe Montana's infobox, I first was against retired players having it but then I realized I was fighting a battle that couldn't be won. Thanks --Phbasketball601:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


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European Hall of Fame

Actually there is such a thing.[4]War wizard9001:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Man, this is fan project. This means about as much as little Timmy's "favorite movies list" on any given website. You can't compare this nonsense to the realBasketball Hall of Fame or theCollege Basketball Hall of Fame. --Bender23501:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Longhorn player wikilinks

Hello Bender, I see you added some redlinks toTemplate:2005 Texas Longhorn roster. May I inquire how you selected the players to link? I had previously only linked players who already have articles. Do you think these players are likely to get articles soon?Johntex\talk18:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I do. And some of the players you've linked didn't have articles, btw, like Aaron Lewis and Aaron Harris. --Bender23519:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, as of my last version of the template, all the linked players did have links.[5] You say you believe those articles will be created, but you don't say why you believe that. Could you please enlighten me? I don't have a strong objection excepet that it seems like we should have some criteria for why we are redlinking some names and not others.Johntex\talk20:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
CheckAaron Lewis andAaron Harris. These aren't football players.
I don't know if or when new articles will be created. I just linked a few players that I think a above-average in this team. --Bender23520:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I see that now. My point is that I wikilinked all the players who had articles (or that I thought had articles). I think that is a logical cut-off. If they don't have articles now, it seems better not to link them unless the articles or planned.Johntex\talk00:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Please Stop

please stop deleting the color from retired players likeMichael Irvin andDan Marino.--Bucs10 00:33, 8 March 2007

Stop adding a color! Those players are retired. Team colors are only for active players. --Bender23502:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

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RE: Please vote

SeeTemplate talk:Infobox NFL player#Retired players. --Bender23514:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the heads-up. —xanderer14:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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The voting is wrong because it should be a tie at 8 becauseuser:Wizardman put that only the obvious ones meaning he voted yes basically for players likeDan Marino,Jerry Rice, orEmmitt Smith—Precedingunsigned comment added by75.83.16.137 (talkcontribs)

There is no problem. He voted, and that's it. --Bender23509:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

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Jimmy Clausen

TheJimmy Clausen article received heavy editing today by new/unregistered users, which I noticed atWikiRage.com. According toWikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you think your efforts to improve that article would be aided if new and unregistered users were blocked from editing that article, please let me know and I will protect the article. Thanks. --Jreferee(Talk)08:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, you should probably do so. ––Bender23509:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Calvin Johnson (American football) Featured Article push

I'd like to nominateCalvin Johnson (American football) for Featured Article status, but I'd like the article expanded a little bit before I do. Since you're one of the primary editors of that article, I figured that you'd be a good one to ask. My primary concern is comprehensiveness; it needs more prose/information, especially in "Early years" and "College career". Also consult suggestions in therecent peer review, theongoing WPBIO A-class review, andthese examples of FA-Class athletes. Once the article gets a bit longer, I'll nominate it at FAC, and I hope you'll help address reviewers' suggestions. —Disavian (talk/contribs)01:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Jerrod Johnson

Hi, thanks for writing the article on Jerrod Johnson. I planned to start his article, but never got to it. The article is very well written.BlueAg09 (Talk)18:31, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Article on Phil Danaher

My good friend Coach Phil Danaher called me wondering how bio ended up on Wikipedia. I explained to him how the site works - but was wondering why you chose to write an article on him? I can send you more information or photos if you would like.user:Gandalf443—Precedingsigned but undated comment was added at03:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I considered him a notable Texas high school football coach, since he is third on the all-time winning list.G.A. Moore andGordon Wood already had their articles in the Wikipedia, so I added Coach Danaher as well.
You are welcomed to add more information or a photo to the article, of course. ––Bender23509:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

October 2007

You currently appear to be engaged in anedit war according to the reverts you have made onKosta Koufos. Note that thethree-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate thethree-revert rule. If you continue, you may beblocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains aconsensus among editors.nattang16:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm aware of that, and as you know I already requested semi-protection for that article. --Bender23517:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You violated theWP:3RR rule onKosta Koufos. I will report you next time.86.27.110.23800:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Didn't you do, too? Don't try to fool me buddy. ––Bender23500:30, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography Newsletter 5

TheBiography WikiProject Newsletter
Volume IV, no. 4 - September 2007
Project News
  • The three-month longSummer Assessment Drive, organized byPsychless, was a huge success! It ran fromJune 1September 1, and reduced the backlog of unassessed articles from 113,385 to 56,237. In all, over 100,000 articles were assessed. Over 60 people contributed in some way.
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Mitch Mustain

Your entry for "Pro-style Quarterbacks 2006" from Rivals.com was removed for several reasons. This gets into the realm of speculation on an internet service that is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. All the listings before it for Mustain are in regards to overall position titles, not something specific and speculative like "Pro-style Quarterbacks." The one you listed is for "Pro-style Quarterbacks" and is pure speculation on the internet and has no place on an encyclopedia and is not consistent with the preceding listings.Caffehamp16:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

So why is this article citingScout.com, asRivals.com is prohibited? ––Bender23518:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Because you are listing "Pro-style Quarterbacks 2006," which is a speculative listing not related to actual play at the high school and college levels. The other listings refer to Mustain in terms of best playeroverall, not something specific like "Pro-style Quarterbacks 2006." That belongs on an internet service, not an encyclopedia.Caffehamp18:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
So if we use the overall ranking (where Mustain is 2nd quarterback behind Stafford), it's all fine?
BTW: That Scout.com ranking is based on potential, too. That best quarterback on actual play in 2006 was probably Greg McElroy of Southlake Carroll, since he had far better stats than Matt Stafford, but he won't be the best for NFL or even NCAA purposes. ––Bender23519:06, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, no, because until that point, all the listings were for all positions on the field and were not restricted to the position of quarterback. It suddenly switches from overall positions to quarterback ranking; hence why the start of the sentence with "However, he was..." becomes grammatically and factually inaccurate. In regards to awards, those are the most prestigious high school awards and are considered accomplishments, not based on what someone is projected to do in the future.Caffehamp19:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Dwight D. Eisenhower

Dwight D. Eisenhower did NOT go to high school in Texas, he went to high school in KANSAS.WikiDon01:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Of course, this begs the question:"Are you this careless with all of your edits?"
I'm sorry. ––Bender23502:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem with red links

There is no way of knowing what the article of a high school or football coach will be called. For example, an article for Central High School in Chicago might be calledCentral High School (Chicago, IL),Central High School (Chicago),Central High School (IL),Chicago Central High School,Central High School, Chicago, IL, to name a few. An article for a football coach named Joe Smith might be calledJoe Smith (American football coach),Joe Smith (football coach),Joe Smith (American football, or something else. Also, new articles for obscure football coaches (such as those who have only coached high school teams, of which many of these are) are rarely created. If you find that one has been added you are welcome to add a link. I kept the link toRaymond Burnett, as you specified that his article will be up soon.Iowa1321:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

You are correct about the naming conventions, but often in this case they are not followed. And I just don't think the article looks clean with so many red links. Also, thanks for wikifying Burnett, his article is up now.Iowa1303:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Shuffle offense

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Barnstar for you

The Running Man Barnstar
I award this barnstar toBender235 for his fine contributions toTexas A&M Aggies football and Texas-related articles.Gig 'em!BlueAg09 (Talk)00:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll keep up working. ––Bender23500:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

René Moreau

René Moreau

Aproposed deletion template has been added to the articleRené Moreau, suggesting that it be deleted according to theproposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia'scriteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" andWikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the{{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or onits talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through theproposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of thespeedy deletion criteria or it can be sent toArticles for Deletion, where it may be deleted ifconsensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add{{db-author}} to the top of the page. Cheers,CP16:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Calathes

Hi,

I revertedNick Calathes. There are two problems with it: First, pronunciations in Wikipedia are assumed to be in English unless stated otherwise. True, people sometimes get sloppy, but this guy was born in the US, and his first name is English. Second, [kɑˈlɑʈɪs] is incorrect even as Greek. [kaˈlaθis] would be closer, and could appearafter his Greek name, though there isn't much point since it's predictable from the spelling. Do you know how people say his name in English?kwami (talk)18:07, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

In thatYouTube clip they say his name multiple times (with "English pronunciation", if you want so). They pronounce his name with the "a" like in "apple" and the "th" like in "the", and that is wrong.
Despite he was born in the U.S. and his first name is English, his last name is still Greek. LikeJake Delhomme still having a French name - it's "Del-Hom", not "Del-Homey". Get the point? —Bender235 (talk)10:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Blocked for edit warring

You've been blocked for 24 hours foredit warring atHouston Nutt. In the future, please seekconsensus for your edits, pursuingdispute resolution if necessary. If you wish to contest this block, you may add {{unblock|reason}} to your talk page.Heimstern Läufer(talk)03:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

{{unblock|You're right, I shouldn't have revertedUser:Allstarecho's edits atHouston Nutt that often. But asTalk:Houston Nutt#NPOV shows, I think I was right to do it. If you would unblock me, I will not revert theHouston Nutt article anymore, but participate in the discussion mentioned above. ––Bender235 (talk)10:35, 30 November 2007 (UTC)}}

I've notified the blocking admin of your request, and requested their comments on the matter. Please stand by, in the meantime. –Luna Santin (talk)10:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
checkY

Your request to be unblocked has beengranted for the following reason(s):

Has agreed not to edit war any longer.

Request handled by:Heimstern Läufer(talk)16:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Per your agreement not to revert, I've unblocked you. Obviously, if you fail to keep that agreement, I'll have to re-block. Cheers,Heimstern Läufer(talk)16:22, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Superscripting the suffix in ordinal numbers

Hello Bender. I notice you superscript the suffix (th, nd, st, etc.) ofordinal numbers — perWikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Exceptions, the suffix is not supposed to be superscripted. I too think they look better superscripted, but I think it's best if we follow Wikipedia's guidelines. Thanks!BlueAg09 (Talk)01:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I did not know that. I won't superscript the suffix anymore. Thanks for that information. ––Bender23501:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

The Legend: Tom Osborne

Speaking as a Nebraskan who knows the importance of tradition of in this program, I must ask that you stop removing Coach Osborne's place as interim head coach. The template isn't "Nebraska Head Coaches who Coached a Game" it's just coaches, and whether or not he coached a game is irrelevant. The man appointed himself interim head coach during a time of crisis, and for that he should keep his name on the template.

Go Huskers!—Precedingunsigned comment added by129.93.213.33 (talkcontribs)

I hope you are aware that this means you have to add about a dozen other coaches to the Huskers Football Coach template, because every search for a coach takes some weeks, and there is always an interim coach in that time. But those coaches never appear in official records, except in that one case that they coached a game (mostly the bowl game, like Pelini did in 2003). This being said, I'll remove Osborne as interim coach. ––Bender23509:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Suck my Husker balls, dick.—Precedingunsigned comment added by129.93.213.39 (talk)16:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, right… ––Bender23516:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
It's not the place for some French guy to say what should be on a Nebraska template. Osborne appointing himself interim head coach was a big thing around here, and it should reflect that on here.—Precedingunsigned comment added by129.93.213.39 (talk)16:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
OK, as a Nebraska Fan, I support Bender235 in this matter. It is unrealistic to list every interim coach that has ever held the position for every program. It doesn't matter if it was a "big thing" in Nebraska, Wikipedia is not about Nebraskan Big Things. I love all Dr. Tom has done for the state too, but putting him up as interim coach for a four-day assignment with no practices supervised or games coached is not a notable event in the big picture that will stand the test of time. Heck, I am the guy that put him up on WP for the interim post initially, so I am as qualified as anyone to state my opinion after changing my mind about it. As for the vulgar comment from another Husker fan, I am appalled. Shame on you, representing Nebraska that way, I expect much better than that from all Nebraskans. My apologies, Bender235, for that childish wag. Also, thanks for obtaining a block on the user engaged in the edit war.Fjbfour (talk)03:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate your support. ––Bender235 (talk)10:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I saw your post atWP:AIV. As this is a content dispute and not considered vandalism, I'd suggest trying to come to a consensus with the folks atWikiProject College football. Until then, I'm going to leave the template protection in place. Let me know if you have any other concerns.Caknuck (talk)00:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Petrino

Bender, why in the world did you edit out that Bobby Petrino was a candidate for the Arkansas job and rule it as vandalism??? You have Petrino listed as a potential candidate for the LSU and Auburn jobs but their two coaches just signed new contracts! Those jobs are not open nor will they come open. So you can leave that and someone puts in that Petrino is rumored to be a candidate for the Arkansas job (rumor has been going around for a week) and you call it vandalism? Who are you anyway? You don't know what you are talking about.—Precedingunsigned comment added byHackerhog99 (talkcontribs)01:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Point is that you can't add rumors like this without sources. You did not add a source, thus I deleted it. Do you have a source for this rumor? ––Bender235 (talk)01:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Here you go.http://arkansas.scout.com/2/708415.html—Precedingunsigned comment added byHackerhog99 (talkcontribs)01:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Okay, that's fine with me. ––Bender235 (talk)11:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Ah Bender, poking your nose where it doesn't belong again...Just leave the deleting to administrators and stop trying to destroy college football.—Precedingunsigned comment added by129.93.213.117 (talk)07:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
…right. Or insulting the whole state of Nebraska. *lol* Stop making a fool out of yourself. You're embarrassing Husker Nation. ––Bender235 (talk)11:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


Speedy deletion ofJewell Wallace

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Speedy deletion ofClyde Lee (American football)

A tag has been placed onClyde Lee (American football) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done undersection A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under thecriteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Pleasesee the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specificnotability guideline for biographies.

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Larry Fedora

I understand you have a problem with another user's edits of the above article, but please try to keep cool while editing. You can not force other users to discuss their changes with you, and edit warring is not the solution. You have no more right than he has to edit the article, and could just as easily be blocked for your reverts as he could be for his. What he's doing may be misguided, but it's not vandalism. Also, comments such asthis one are completely unacceptable, especially when dealing with new users. Remember:There are no emergencies on Wikipedia. Relax, don't yell at other users, and eventually things will work themselves out.KafzielTalk22:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, you may be right. But quite frankly, if he has one opinion how the article should look like, and I have a different one, then the easiest way is to discuss. But he refuses. I hope he can give an answer why he wants that(HC) in the infobox, although the infobox clearly says its always "HC unless noted". ––Bender235 (talk)23:08, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Let's hope my warning to him gets him to answer your question.KafzielTalk23:38, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Notorious

Hi, Bender. I'veprodded the articleNotorious (2009 film) because it does not meet thenotability guidelines for future films. I encourage you to put the information about the project at the articleNotorious B.I.G. until production can begin, which is not a certainty in the film industry. Let me know if you have any issues with this tagging! —Erik (talkcontrib) -18:05, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

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