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Thai teaser

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ผึ้งได้พิสุทเ้วยตัวของผึ้งเิงค่ะเพราะผลการวิจัยละคนอายุ่ไท่มีเหตุผลค่ะประสพการไม่มีแระโยชค่ะและความไกล้ชิดก่อไห้เกิดกทรโบภม่กและทำไห้อสีนหายย่างร้ายแรงรวยเหรอไช้เหตุปลทีคนเจาะจงจุดนี้ค่ะเป้าหมายออ่นเกินไปค่ะทุกรสยล้ในแต่ไม่มีแระโยชค่ะ223.24.162.9 (talk)18:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Google Translate renders this as follows. Curious...Andrew🐉(talk)19:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The bee has proven it by itself. The research results and the fact that people are still young don't provide a solid reason. Experience has no benefit. And closeness causes too much impact and leads to serious losses. Being rich? Is that the reason people focus on this point? The goal is too weak. Everything feels exhausted inside but still serves no purpose.64.158.132.206 (talk)19:11, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The bee has been able to confirm the identity of the bee because of the results of the study. Each person of any age has a reason. He experiences a lack of energy and closeness causes an overabundance of the body and causes Is there a serious loss of wealth? Is it possible for people to focus on this point? The goal is too soft. Every taste is delicious but there's no reason for it.

AI survey

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@Andrew Davidson hi, I sent you an email about a day ago, just wanted to send a reminder here again. Thank you so much for your time! Looking forward to hear from you, and have a great weekend!Phoebezz22 (talk)18:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw the email, thanks, and will reply directly.Andrew🐉(talk)19:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds great, Thank you so much! Will wait for your response then =)Phoebezz22 (talk)22:18, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Having looked, I'm not sure I'm ready for an interview yet. My activity is currently experimental and today's recent update is a typical example. SeeWikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Request_for_closure where I tried usingGemini to summarise a discussion.Andrew🐉(talk)23:47, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Andrew Davidson Thank you for the thoughtful reply, I really appreciate it! I also took a look at the examples you provided, and I still believe your interactions in such discussions with examples of LLM outputs will provide very valuable insights - and in fact, I think you'll provide a very interesting perspective. Please let me know if you are interested in participating! And if you don't mind, we can also change to emails. Have a great weekend =)Phoebezz22 (talk)02:31, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and... Black Middens

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Hi Andrew Davidson! In due deference to your seniority, you should have been the first editor I bothered in my quest for info, but it has only just occurred to me to check who created the article on theBlack Middens. To cut a long story short, I'm trying to tie up a couple of loose ends I've come across regarding theSpanish Battery Rocks, at the estuary of the River Tyne, as an oft-mentioned hazard to shipping in the area. However, I have come up against a series of doubts which render that redlink (or simply a section at another article, a non-starter, at least for the moment. Ihave already bothered another user,Barabbas1312 who, though kindly tolerant of my imposition has, so far, been unable to shed further light on the matter at hand, beyond confirming that the "name doesn't appear to be used on the relevant Admiralty chart, though the battery itself is marked".

Not knowing the area at all, and as sources are few and far between, one of my main doubts is whether said rocks refer to "your" Black Middens or to the rocks on other side of the headland, where the actual artillery battery was located. If the former, since that article already exists, it might just be a matter of adding/finding a couple of sources that link the two sites, or not, as the case may be. Thanks for your time and, as I commented to Barabbas1312, please don't feel obliged to do anything regarding this matter. Happy Editing!Technopat (talk)17:08, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I started theBlack Middens as a spinoff from theLights of North Shields.
This page about the Spanish Battery shows a map derived from Google. This labels the Black Middens and other specific features fairly clearly and also shows the coastal rocks. My impression is that the Black Middens usually means the reef of rock in the channel where the name label is. The rocks which form the shore around the headland seem to be a more general coastal feature and don't have particular names. So, the rocky shore near to the battery might be considered distinct but I doubt that it warrants a separate article.
We could use an article about the battery as the articleTynemouth Priory and Castle doesn't mention it. We could also use an article about theTynemouth Volunteer Life Brigade Watch House which was built there specifically because shipwrecks were common. I'll make a start on that now.
A person who might be able to help isOjsyork who is active in the RNLI andRNLI task force here.
Andrew🐉(talk)18:01, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Andrew Davidson@Technopat
Sorry chaps, can't help. I can find histories of Lifeboat Stations, but any ref. to wreck locations etc I just assume they're correct, and add a link if an article exists.
All the RNLI stations are now done, but I'm still on withList of former RNLI stations, whilst fending off the nonsense created by one other member of the RNLI group!
And then there are RNLI Fleet pages to update constantly - I'm unlikely to get to Volunteer Rocket Brigades, sorry.Ojsyork (talk)18:55, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings All! Many thanks for your prompt replies. As this is your talk page, Andrew Davidson, I hope you don't mind that I respond here also toOjsyork so as not to have too many loose ends lying around. Yes, regarding that Spanish Battery link, thanks, I have that one and I agree with you regarding the specific reef versus the rocks under the battery and yes, the Watch House merits an article, so if you're happy to do that, great! Look forward to checking it out!
Regrading the RNLI, Ojsyork, I have just started using itsTynemouth's Station history page as a reference to pages on theCategory:Lists of shipwrecks by year. Hope you manage to fend off the nonsense-peddler. In the absence of 10-foot bargepoles, boathooks are quite effective, as are sculls... (I once had the privilege of seeing aThames waterman —and ex-British commando— smack a drunken idiot who had fallen into the Thames on the dodgy ebb tide over the head with a scull so as to stun him and stop him from capsizing the skiff we had gone to rescue him in. One of the highlights of my youth! Sorry, off on one of me tangents... --Technopat (talk)21:25, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Lunchtime O'Booze" listed atRedirects for discussion

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The redirectLunchtime O'Booze has been listed atredirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets theredirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect atWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 April 17 § Lunchtime O'Booze until a consensus is reached.1234qwer1234qwer402:34, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC Radio 4 seriesBook of the Week

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I saw the banner on your user page about being a deletion patroller. I wonder if you have any views on the current deletion discussion forBook of the Week atWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Book of the Week.Snowman (talk)23:01, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m interested in such radio topics and will see how I can help. Am busy today so more later…Andrew🐉(talk)12:07, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I found a good detailed source which is visible to me atGoogle Books so you may be able to read it there too. I have made a variety of other smaller edits and will do more as and when more occur to me.
We ought to start an article about Di Speirs using sources such asthis.
And, if you're interested in radio please check out theList of longest-running radio programmes. We should add aBook at Bedtime to that as it's older than the Archers though it did have a break of three years, it seems.
Andrew🐉(talk)20:03, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have been thinking about an article for Di Speirs too. I am very much a part-time editor, though. Thanks for your work on theBook of the Week article. The delete discussion has been closed with no overall discussion, so the article is retained.Snowman (talk)09:17, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I saw that Eddie891 had noticed the book that I added as a source and was expecting this to produce a no-consensus result. That's good enough so we can move on to Speirs now. Some people don't like stubs but I'm quite keen on them. The way to get a job done is to start it...Andrew🐉(talk)09:25, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Case Notes (radio show)

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I see that this BBC Radio show has been turned into a redirect (effectively deleted) following a merge discussion earlier this year. I would like to restore this article. Do you know how to go about this?Snowman (talk)10:28, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the process of editing a redirect is described atWP:EDRED. I don't recall ever listening to that programme and am not seeing many sources for it but will put it on my watchlist and see what you can do with it.Andrew🐉(talk)07:12, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have listened to the radio show many times. It was redirected following a deletion discussion. I think there has to be a discussion on the talk page before the page can be restored. I have started a discussion on the talk page.Snowman (talk)09:16, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Stuart Stanton (surgeon)

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On3 July 2025,Did you know was updated with a fact from the articleStuart Stanton (surgeon), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was... that surgeonStuart Stanton popularisedan operation for stress incontinence? The nomination discussion and review may be seen atTemplate:Did you know nominations/Stuart Stanton (surgeon). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page(here's how,Stuart Stanton (surgeon)), and the hook may be added tothe statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on theDid you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk)00:03, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forFauja Singh

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On 17 July 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleFauja Singh, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Black Kite (talk)14:24, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forConnie Francis

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On 21 July 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleConnie Francis, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6619:05, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gardening with Gerda

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Main page:Robert Baker Park at DYK
story ·music ·places

Thank you for your efforts forRobert Lewis Baker! --Gerda Arendt (talk)10:47, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Gardening and Wikipedia have some similarity, I reckon – activities like labelling, planting, pruning, seeding, weeding and so forth are common to both and the results can be equally attractive and rewarding.Andrew🐉(talk)11:09, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nice analogy! -Béatrice Uria-Monzon andher story,Julia Hagen and herno story --Gerda Arendt (talk)21:04, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OnBach's day of death, I decorated my user pages in memory, with his music, andmy story ends on "peace". --Gerda Arendt (talk)13:11, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Bach seems timeless and eternal now. Myself, I'm rememberingTom Lehrer who died recently (seeITN). His lyrics are witty and his mastery of the piano seemed excellent.Andrew🐉(talk)13:35, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Texas redistricting

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Thanks for defending my article suggestion. I cannot comprehend their logic that it's not relevant.77eagle (talk)15:56, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's not based on logic or evidence. PerWP:ITNSIGNIF, "Whether a topic is significant enough for inclusion in ITN is often contentious. ... It is highly subjective whether an event is considered significant enough..." There is some gerrymandering too...Andrew🐉(talk)17:51, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forBiddy Baxter

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On 11 August 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleBiddy Baxter, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Ad Orientem (talk)20:01, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉

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That's weird, you have a similar signature toUser:Jeraxmoira! ~Rafael! (He, him) •talkguestbookprojects14:57, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One reason for that is that we are bothWikiDragons.Andrew🐉(talk)15:33, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Andrew Davidson oh, got it! ~Rafael! (He, him) •talkguestbookprojects15:34, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are other reasons in my case including:
  1. I wanted to have a shorter sig and the sigil is just a single Unicode character
  2. The sigil looks like the letter D in Apple's iOS font and so it works as an initial
  3. I'm adragon of a different sort too
  4. Dragons are cool!
Andrew🐉(talk)09:38, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination ofStreameast for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the articleStreameast is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according toWikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should bedeleted.

The article will be discussed atWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Streameast until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

EF517:00, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for2025 Ryder Cup

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On 30 September 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the article2025 Ryder Cup, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6600:30, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forGeorge Smoot

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On 30 September 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleGeorge Smoot, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6600:32, 30 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forSarah Mullally

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On 4 October 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleSarah Mullally, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6603:27, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forDiane Keaton

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On 15 October 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleDiane Keaton, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.SpencerT•C05:52, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

🎉 Andrew Davidson's first edit anniversary!

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HeyAndrew Davidson, Your first edit anniversary on this wikimedia project was 4 days ago. Thank you for your valuable contributions and wishing you many more years of amazing contributions to the Wikimedia community :) -❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee❚❙❚❙❙22:08, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks. What seems even more interesting is that the 20th anniversary of my account's creation is coming up on 15 February 2026. I must ponder how to celebrate it. Checking, I find that it's the Sunday of theLondon Wikimeet so that's a good start.Andrew🐉(talk)17:32, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Killiechassie

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Now home toJ. K. Rowling

You uploadedFile:Killiechassie 1862.png in 2014, but I don't quite understand why you marked it as{{keep local}}. The map being over 100 years old, it should be well within PD, and if not it should have been tagged as such. But perhaps there was a good reason that I am oblivious to.

I have gone ahead and marked the file for Commons export as well as updated the license tag inside{{PD-Art}} to{{PD-100}}. If that was in error, please revert my edit and let's discuss the license situation of the file.Rose Abrams (TCL)14:24, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to misunderstand what the template is saying. It is not an obstacle to copying to Commons; it records that "an editor has requested that the local copy be kept too". So, the file may be copied to Commons but the local copy should then be left here.
Reasons for this include:
  1. Commons is a different project with different policies. I'm not exactly sure what they are as I don't tend to go there.
  2. The file is on my watch list here and I like to keep an eye on material that I have created or uploaded.
  3. Having a local copy enables me to annotate or otherwise comment on the content.
  4. For more, seeTemplate talk:Keep local
So, I have restored the template which sits fine alongside{{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}. Ok?
Andrew🐉(talk)14:58, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see. I don't really know if "it's easy and convenient for me" is a solid reason to keep a local file, but it's not something I will argue. I'd recommend you to consider the arguments set out onWP:WHYCOMMONS for why not to keep a local file, but it's up to you.
But a more important question for you: Is it possible for you to fill in the fields| source = and| author = on the file page? Since you uploaded the file (albeit 11 years ago), you may remember the website/written work/repository where you found the image originally. It's fine if you cannot, I can always attempt to find the data myself by reverse-searching it online. And regardless of who does it, when that info is known and entered I will copy the file to Commons (while keeping the local copy per your request). Thank you!Rose Abrams (TCL)15:47, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's now Done. You can still add details to the local copy if you are able.Rose Abrams (TCL)20:30, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I just read throughWP:WHYCOMMONS and see that it says, "If you want to prevent images uploaded directly to Wikipedia from being deleted locally after being copied to Commons, use the{{Keep local}} tag." So, that's all good then.Andrew🐉(talk)22:31, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question about keeplocal

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Hello! Is there a specific reason that you taggedFile:Breaking Rust 2.png with{{keep local}}? I don't see any particular reason for it. I will export the file to Commons later today, but if you can explain why then I'll certainly leave the local copy untouched.Rose Abrams (TCL)12:57, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I usually upload here rather than elsewhere as this is the main project that I work on and I'm not so familiar with other projects. One specific reason to maintain the file here is that I can then keep an eye on it using my watchlist. In this way I was able to observe the subsequent improvements to the license and resolution of the image and then thanked the editors responsible. This is my standard policy and process and seems to work well.Andrew🐉(talk)18:14, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see. I'm not certain if editor convenience is a good reason to keep a local copy, but I see no consensus about it and don't feel it worth arguing over anyway. So I'll do as planned and make a copy onto Commons while leaving your local copy intact. Have a good day!Rose Abrams (TCL)20:47, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Baek Se-hee

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ITN recognition

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On 18 October 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleBaek Se-hee, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Andrew🐉(talk)22:39, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

{{recent death}}

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Please review thistemplate's guideline as it is not for newly created articles. -FlightTime(open channel)18:07, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • That guidance is not sensible as a subject of this sort will naturally attract attention once the article is created. Already other editors have rushed in and they now number seven and counting. The reader should naturally be advised that the topic is tentative until its stability becomes clear.Andrew🐉(talk)19:28, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless,WP:BLP1E -FlightTime(open channel)20:45, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are three conditions forWP:BLP1E. None are applicable inthis case.
Meanwhile the editor count is now in double figures. And another editor has thought to thank me for getting it started. What afine fellow!
Andrew🐉(talk)22:45, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes - I was frankly astonished to see that we had not already had an article. Her book has been a bestseller for several years.No Swan So Fine (talk)05:13, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Psychiatric therapy

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I linked this term inBaek Se-hee. It was a red link, I redirected it toPsychotherapy, but I am not an expert in this terminology - you may want to double check this.Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here11:53, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine, thanks. I thought about linking it but the general concept seemed fairly familiar and I wasn't sure of the exact methodology.
Myself, I bought sometteokbokki today and will be trying that therapy later!Andrew🐉(talk)15:43, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good stuff. Did you know I've been living in Korea for a decade now? :) Planning to eat somesundae today for dinner :)Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here07:13, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I was aware of that. Did you know that I live the part of London that has the largest Polish community perPoles in the United Kingdom? And so, for example, I started the articlePOSK.Andrew🐉(talk)08:18, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Small world. I wonder if thePolish Library in London has a separate stand-alone notability. AlsoPolish Veterans Association. I see both mentioned occasionally in sources... for now I'll redirec them there.Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here01:05, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forYang Chen-Ning

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On 23 October 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleYang Chen-Ning, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page. —Bagumba (talk)07:17, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kippered trout

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I had someManx kippers the other day but didn't think to take a picture. This fine spread will give you an idea.
a rainbow trout fish

Whack!

You've beenwhacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

TheKip(contribs)02:31, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forPrunella Scales

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On 30 October 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articlePrunella Scales, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6621:15, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reader Metrics

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I read the discussion on the Prunella Scales blurb, and had some comments and questions.

I advocate including user metrics when considering ITN items. Why?

  • The site exists to serve readers.
  • Reader behavior is a key signal of the quality of the experience the site (and its editors) provide.
  • Editors are not representative of the broader public.
  • Editor judgement on newsworthiness/blurbworthiness is inherently and inescapably subjective.
  • Editors should want to know what readers are interested in.
  • Editors should want to know how readers engage with content on the homepage to help inform future editorial decisions.
  • Editors should want metrics to ensure homepage content is broad and balanced.
  • Metrics help counter personal biases by offering objective data that indicates notability.
  • Metrics can augment rather than replace editor judgement.

“I was going to jokingly reply to The Kip that viewer statistics would be coming in no time. I didn't think you would actually do it!Rather than annoy almost every other editor with the repeated use of these, why don't you save everyone the trouble and bookmark WP:TOP25 or better yet download Wikipedia Mobile which shows the top viewed articles of the day (on the front page no less). I will seek community discussion at ITN Talk if I see a pointy use of these stats again. Quite silly really (or beyond that now perhaps).”

This comment seemed harsh, dismissive and intended to chill discussion. While this editor may not see the value of considering metrics, is it necessary to effectively censor discussion of them? Is there any recourse? Is it worth trying to have a discussion about how ITN items should can be discussed?Dr Fell (talk)23:03, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discourse at ITN is uncivil but so it goes. I fancy that some of the editors there are coming around for the second time. TheMills of God grind slow but exceeding fine...
Our readership is obviously important and so you're right that it should be measured. Let's look again at those numbers:
ArticleViewsEditsEditorsSizeWatchers
Prunella Scales272,2291363831,920100
Sanae Takaichi81,6351812131,835109
Catherine Connolly39,180291779,07155
2025 Irish presidential election15,930116185,93062
Accession of Timor-Leste to ASEAN15,1307561,19735
XIX International Chopin Piano Competition3,96000137,706< 30
Andrzej Poczobut5483222,777< 30
Mzia Amaglobeli5327241,106< 30
8 pages429,14421179691,542361
Prunella Scales is doing fine and has had over 400,000 readers in two days now. It's the numbers for some of those other ITN picks that seem lamentable. Clearly just about no-one is reading some of those topics and so we shouldn't be running them.
Andrew🐉(talk)23:40, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Annual readership

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Template:Annual readership has beennominated for discussion. You are invited to comment on the discussion atthe entry on the Templates for discussion page.HouseBlaster (talk • he/they)21:11, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the invitation but I am forbidden to join this discussion –audi alteram partem... Not!
For the record, the template is currently in use on 53,123 pages. Here's some examples from the start of the list
Animal to Computer science
sic transit gloria mundi
Andrew🐉(talk)08:57, 3 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm following the discussion and see thatMathglot has some constructive suggestions. I'm pinging them to compare notes. Here's some points for their consideration.
  1. I'm the original creator of{{annual readership}} and so quite motivated to help develop a successor.
  2. I've listed 50 articles which use the template above. I want to get a full list but am not sure of the best way of capturing it.
  3. I've archived the currentcode andtalk pages so that we can still refer to them.
  4. I've started developing a rough replacement which will give the reader a feel for the readership and link to thepageviews tool. The first draft is attalK:Poles in the United Kingdom. The code is

{{Tmbox|style = border-spacing:4px|image = [[File:Open data small color (vector).svg|32px]]|text = The number of {{plainlink|url=https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=all-time&pages=Poles_in_the_United_Kingdom|name=average daily views}} of this article is about 193.}}

The average has to be inserted manually but should be fairly stable for a mature article. The page views parameters are defaulted to all-time which should give the full stats since records began in 2015. The reader then gets the big picture.
Andrew🐉(talk)13:31, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Andrew Davidson. Please check your email; you've got mail! The subject is 3Mb tsv.
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ITN recognition forJames Watson

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On 8 November 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleJames Watson, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6601:11, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forHorst Panic

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On 14 November 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleHorst Panic, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Andrew🐉(talk)09:38, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Flag

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Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Allowing use of AE for community topicwide restrictions

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Because you participated at the recent RfC on the same topic or the recent ARCA request on the same topic, you are invited to participate in the RfC atWikipedia:Village pump (proposals) § RfC: Allowing use of AE for community topicwide restrictions. Best,KevinL (akaL235·t·c)23:05, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forTom Stoppard

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On 4 December 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleTom Stoppard, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Black Kite (talk)09:15, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks. Some notes for the record. I started the ball rolling for the blurb discussion which was quite protracted – 60K and counting. The nomination was updated and an image of him in his prime cropped for this. The article's lead was updated to highlight his critical significance. The tag-bombing was cleared and the list of works was updated with a reference to a comprehensive bibliography which helped resolve the debate about the need for sources for that section. There was some contention about the choice of lead image and I participated in the discussion for that. And I expanded the paragraph about his death, adding King Charles' statement. So, there was quite a variety of tasks to be done and so it's good that they helped it make the main page.
The readership on the death wasover half a million. It will be interesting to see how much the blurb attracts.
Andrew🐉(talk)13:56, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was just popping by to check you got the recognition as you started the blurb discussion, thanks to @Black Kite for handling it already.CMD (talk)15:15, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for thinking of me. I see you got your recognition for starting the nomination – well done. But you didn't comment on the blurb option during the discussion – what did you think about that, please?Andrew🐉(talk)15:31, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While I know Tom Stoppard, I am not so familiar with theatre as a whole, and especially unfamiliar with ITN's expectations on theatre. I set out to add the initial information on the death, and then decided after looking through the article to source and tweak the paragraph on his only book, which seemed the biggest source gap. (I did not know before that he had written a book.) I do think despite my unfamiliarity that he is quite a significant artistic figure, which seems blurbable, so it seems positive you managed to start the process. If there is "recognition" for me I would prefer it to be for the update and the book sourcing rather than for the nomination, although thinking as I write I did do that nomination on mobile so on second thought perhaps recognition is merited.CMD (talk)15:49, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at thereadership stats, the blurb seemed to add about 30,000 readers on top of the base trend. I usually reckon ITN generates about 20,000 views so that was a bit better than usual.Andrew🐉(talk)16:03, 5 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Baek Se-hee

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On11 December 2025,Did you know was updated with a fact from the articleBaek Se-hee, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was... thatBaek Se-hee wroteI Want to Die but I Want to Eat Tteokbokki? The nomination discussion and review may be seen atTemplate:Did you know nominations/Baek Se-hee. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page(here's how,Baek Se-hee), and the hook may be added tothe statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free tonominate it.

 — Amakuru (talk)00:02, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hook update
Your hook reached 16,708 views (696.2 per hour), making it one of themost viewed hooks of December 2025 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talkcontribs) (he/it)03:28, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thelink above gives the number as 17,937.Andrew🐉(talk)08:24, 13 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forRob Reiner

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On 16 December 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleRob Reiner, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Andrew🐉(talk)08:13, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A Very Merry Christmas to you!

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Hello there. 'Tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! Your contributions to Wikipedia in 2025 are greatly appreciated! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas, and here's to a happy and productive 2026!Dr. Blofeld17:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Snowy winter landscape with trees at Shipka Pass

Wishing you and yours a fantastic Christmas (or holiday season for those who don’t celebrate) and all the best for 2026. 🎄 ❄️☃️

Here’s to a collaborative, constructive year ahead — with good faith, good edits, and just enough discussion to get things done!

(and here'sSir Nils Olav inspecting his troops... one ofmy favourite POTDs)

Cheers  — Amakuru (talk)15:11, 21 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Penguin inspecting uniformed soldiers

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Hi Andrew
Season's Greetings and all the best for 2026
Wherever you are and whatever you believe in (or don't), reach out for peace on this little planet of ours!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS 🥳
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2026!

Hello Andrew Davidson, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on thisseasonal occasion. Spread theWikiLove by wishing another user aMerry Christmas and aHappy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2026.
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Abishe (talk)15:22, 27 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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New pages patrol January–February 2026 Backlog drive

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January–February 2026 Backlog Drive|New pages patrol

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ITN recognition forBrigitte Bardot

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On 29 December 2025,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleBrigitte Bardot, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Andrew🐉(talk)09:04, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forKhaleda Zia

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On 2 January 2026,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleKhaleda Zia, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Schwede6600:50, 2 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Swan Lake

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Hi - attempted to ping you but was told that my pinging would not go through so just wanted to manually let you know there is an ANI discussion involving theTalk:Swan Lake discussion you participated in [[1]]. Apologies if this is a duplicate ping.Gnomingstuff (talk)18:09, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I got the ping and read the discussion but did not find it edifying.Andrew🐉(talk)18:24, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
And the consequence was thatBassiStone was banned indefinitely and the article Swan Lake was rolled back 5 months. Tsk.Andrew🐉(talk)20:46, 14 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This Month in GLAM: December 2025

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January music

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story ·music ·places

Thank you for "blurb first" in the ERRORS discussion! --Gerda Arendt (talk)21:11, 14 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

"2012 Olympics curse" listed atRedirects for discussion

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The redirect2012 Olympics curse has been listed atredirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets theredirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect atWikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 January 14 § 2012 Olympics curse until a consensus is reached.Suonii180 (talk)23:36, 14 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Wanted to congratulate your Father

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Hello Andrew, I saw on user:pendright’s talk page that your father will be turning 101 shortly, just wanted to congratulate him and wish him an early happy birthday. My Grandfather’s mother in law (of his second wife) has recently turned 101 too, which is amazing, 101 years is an amazing achievement, such a different time of history. May I ask whether he had any involvement in the war, I’m fascinated in that era and have relatives of my own (unfortunately no longer with us) who were involved, unfortauentlt I only met one of them, but it was great to. Have a lovely rest of your week.Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk)21:09, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. If you're talking about WW2, then being born in Jan 1925 made him 14 when the UK joined the war and so he was too young to be very involved. A chap who used to do some gardening for me was a bit older and said that he saw Rommel in the Desert War. There are few such left now, alas.Andrew🐉(talk)21:57, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I meant more during the later years (1944-1945), my great granduncle was a year older than your father and during the later years (at ages 18-19) fought before being wounded (Then again he was conscripted as he was German, I’m not entirely sure whether Britain was conscripting in the later years). I’m not sure whether any early war veterans are still around (veterans who fought at the start in 1939), I think it might only be later ones (and Hitler Youth members who fought during the last years/months, likePope Benedict 16th).
That’s very interesting about the man you knew who saw Rommel, I don’t know much about the desert war, personally I think it was a waste for Germany (although good for us because we managed to defeat them), The desert war is pretty forgotten compared to other theatres, my Great-Grandfather was part of the RAF in theEthiopian front (when Britain fought against Italy in Somalia and Ethiopia), which is by far one of the most forgotten theatres too.Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk)10:19, 17 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

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Thank you so much for your kind words and for taking the time to write. Wish your father a Happy next Birthday for me, I hope he is well. All the best -Pendright (talk)02:48, 18 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition forGreenland crisis

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On 19 January 2026,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleGreenland crisis, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Andrew🐉(talk)16:29, 19 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2026-05

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Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

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  • Wikimedia Foundation invites comments onproposed future of theProduct and Technology Advisory Council until 28 February.
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This Month in Education: January 2026

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This Month in Education

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Books & Bytes – Issue 72

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The Wikipedia Library:Books & Bytes
Issue 72, November–December 2025
  • Renewed partnerships
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ITN recognition forWorld Health Organization

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On 30 January 2026,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleWorld Health Organization, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page. —Bagumba (talk)22:39, 30 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red February 2026

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Women in Red|February 2026, Vol 12, Issue 2, Nos 358, 359, 361, 362, 363


Online events:

Announcements from other communities

  • JoinWikipedia:26 for '26 and create or substantially improve twenty-six Wikipedia
    articles during the year 2026, at least one for each letter of the English alphabet.

Tip of the month:

  • Ourredlists are a great resource, but not every redlinked subject is notable. Be sure to research before starting a new article.

Other ways to participate:

Instagram|Pinterest

--Lajmmoore (talk22:46, 31 January 2026 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

Tech News: 2026-06

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Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • The "Page information" feature, which gives validating information about a page (example), now automatically includes a table of contents. If there is a localMediaWiki:Pageinfo-header page created by individual users, it can now be removed.[5]
  • Recurrent item View all 21 community-submitted tasks that wereresolved last week. For example, VisualEditor previously added bold or italic formatting inside link descriptions, making the wikicode complex. This has now been fixed.[6]

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  • There was no XML dump on 20 January. Additionally, from now on, dumps will be generated once per month only.[7]
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Weekly highlight

  • Users are reminded that the Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan onMeta andDiff. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on thetalk page.

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Women in Green reviewing drive

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Hello Andrew Davidson:

This month, February 2026,WikiProject Women in Green is participating in theFebruary 2026 GAN Backlog Drive, in which we're aiming to review as many outstanding Good Article (GA) nominations about women and women's works as possible. If you want to help out, you can check out theproject talk page for a list of nominations in need of review (including some WiG originals). If you haven't reviewed a GA nomination before, be sure to check out thereviewing instructions andguidelines and feel free to ask for amentor to check your work.

We are also working together with a wikithon hosted on 5 February by Wikimedia UK, which will focus on writing and improving articles about women involved in sustainable development. If you want to join the event, feel free tosign up at the eventbrite page; or if you would be interested in providing a 20-minute assessment and/or a full GA review of the submitted articles in the weeks following, put your name down on theproject talk page for updates as the event progresses.

We hope to see you there!

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ITN recognition forEpstein files

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On 5 February 2026,In the news was updated with an item that involved the articleEpstein files, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on thecandidates page.Andrew🐉(talk)20:51, 5 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2026-07

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Latesttech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you.Translations are available.

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  • Wishlist item Logged-in contributors who manage large or complex watchlists can now organise and filter watched pages in ways that improve their workflows with the newWatchlist labels feature. By adding custom labels (for example: pages you created, pages being monitored for vandalism, or discussion pages) users can more quickly identify what needs attention, reduce cognitive load, and respond more efficiently. This improves watchlist usability, especially for highly active editors.
  • A new feature available onSpecial:Contributions showstemporary accounts that are likely operated by the same person, and so makes patrolling less time-consuming. Upon checking contributions of a temporary account, users with access to temporary account IP addresses can now see a view of contributions from the related temporary accounts. The feature looks up all the IPs associated with a given temporary account within the data retention period and shows all the contributions of all temporary accounts that have used these IPs.Learn more.[8]
  • When editors preview a wikitext edit, the reminder box that they are only seeing a preview (which is shown at the top), now has a grey/neutral background instead of a yellow/warning background. This makes it easier to distinguish preview notes from actual warnings (for example, edit conflicts or problematic redirect targets), which will now be shown in separate warning or error boxes.[9]
  • TheGlobal Watchlist lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. Theextension continues to improve — it now properly supports more than one Wikibase site, for example bothWikidata andtestwikidata. In addition, issues regarding text direction have been fixed for users who prefer Wikidata or other Wikibase sites in right-to-left (RTL) languages.[10][11]
  • The automatic "magic links" for ISBN, RFC, and PMID numbers have beendeprecated in wikitext since 2021 due to inflexibility and difficulties with localization. Several wikis have successfully replaced RFC and PMID magic links with equivalent external links, but a template was often required to replace the functionality of the ISBN magic link. There is now a newbuilt-in parser function{{#isbn}} available to replace the basic functionality of the ISBN magic link. This makes it easier for wikis who wish to migrate off of the deprecated magic link functionality to do so.[12]
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  • Recurrent item View all 23 community-submitted tasks that wereresolved last week.

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This Month in GLAM: January 2026

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