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There was no such thing as Palestinians

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Statement by Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir

Meir in 1969

"There was no such thing as Palestinians" is part of a widely repeated statement byGolda Meir, the thenIsraeli prime minister, in her second month in office, made in an interview withFrank Giles, then deputy editor ofThe Sunday Times on June 15, 1969, to mark the second anniversary of theSix-Day War.

It is considered to be the most famous example of Israeli denial of a distinctPalestinian identity.[1] The quote has been frequently used to illustrate Israel's denial ofPalestinian history, and is considered to sum up the Palestinians' sense of victimization by Israel.[2] It is considered to be a successor to the earlyChristian Zionist phrase "A land without a people for a people without a land".[3]

Edward Said, aPalestinian American professor and activist, asserted that it was Meir's "most celebrated remark".[4]Al Jazeera journalist Alasdair Soussi wrote that "Meir'sjingoistic comments concerning Palestinians remain one of her defining – and most damning – legacies."[5]

Interviews

Initial statement

The interview entitledWho can blame Israel was published inThe Sunday Times on June 15, 1969, and included the following exchange:

  • Frank Giles: Do you think the emergence of the Palestinian fighting forces, theFedayeen, is an important new factor in the Middle East?
  • Golda Meir: Important, no. A new factor, yes.There was no such thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian state? It was eithersouthern Syria before the First World War and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country from them. They did not exist.[6]

Later statements

In a 1970 interview withThames TV:

  • Golda Meir: "When were Palestinians born? What was all of this area before the First World War when Britain got theMandate over Palestine? What was Palestine, then? Palestine was then the area between the Mediterranean and the Iraqian border.East and West Bank was Palestine. I am a Palestinian, from 1921 and 1948, I carried a Palestinian passport. There was no such thing in this area as Jews, and Arabs, and Palestinians. There were Jews and Arabs.
  • Interviewer: "You deny that there was a Palestine Arab people before, but there is now a Palestine liberation movement, and the history of liberation movements are that they grow, won't this one grow and become in the end in fact your biggest enemy?"
  • Golda Meir: "I don't say there are no Palestinians, but I say there is no such thing as a distinct Palestinian people."[7]

In a 1972 interview withThe New York Times, Meir was asked if she stood by the comments; she replied: "I said there never was a Palestinian nation".[8]

Commentary

Palestinian juristHenry Cattan reflected on the statement in 1988:

The obliteration of the history of Palestine is now attempted by deformation of historical facts. Zionist apologists have reached a new stage in deceit by suggesting that not only the Palestinians did not exist in Palestine, but that Palestine was essentially 'uninhabited' by Arabs before the Zionist movement began towards the end of the nineteenth century, and that the Arabs came in large numbers after that, from nearby countries, drawn by the economic benefits of Jewish settlements.[9]

James Gelvin, an American scholar on Middle Eastern history, commented in 2005:

The fact that Palestinian nationalism developed later than Zionism and indeed in response to it does not in any way diminish the legitimacy of Palestinian nationalism or make it less valid than Zionism. All nationalisms arise in opposition to some "other." Why else would there be the need to specify who you are? And all nationalisms are defined by what they oppose. As we have seen, Zionism itself arose in reaction to anti-Semitic and exclusionary nationalist movements in Europe. It would be perverse to judge Zionism as somehow less valid than European anti-Semitism or those nationalisms. Furthermore, Zionism itself was also defined by its opposition to the indigenous Palestinian inhabitants of the region. Both the "conquest of land" and the "conquest of labor" slogans that became central to the dominant strain of Zionism in the Yishuv originated as a result of the Zionist confrontation with the Palestinian "other."[2]

Abraham Foxman, then head of theAnti-Defamation League, wrote in 2009 about the quote:

The complete response makes it clear that Meir was talking not about the existence of Palestinians as individuals or even as a group, but the existence of a Palestiniannation. And she was stating a simple fact - that prior to the late 1960s no one, least of all the other Arab nations, had recognized the existence or even the potential existence of such a nation. ... Could Meir have made her point more clearly? Probably. And she paid dearly for her lack of clarity. Over the years, her words have repeatedly been cited by anti-Zionists (and sometimes by outright anti-Semites) to "demonstrate" the dismissiveness of Israeli leaders toward the Palestinian People.[10]

Barbara McKean Parmenter, a literary critic, reflected in 2010 on the statement:

In one sense she was right. There was no Palestine in the Western sense of a nation-state and no Palestinian people in the Western sense of a national group taking explicit possession of and improving its national territory. By Western definition, Palestinians, like many other native peoples around the world, did not exist.[3]

Philip Ó Ceallaigh wrote in 2013 about the remark:

Of course, 100 years ago there was no such thing as an Israeli either. The "Israeli" and "Palestinian" nations have come into being simultaneously, and in conflict. The assertion of one is often formulated as the denial of the other."[11]

Rabea Eghbariah wrote in 2024 that:

From Meir’s time to the present, Israeli politicians and other supporters of Zionism have repeatedly denied the existence of the Palestinians as a people. Israeli MinisterBezalel Smotrich, for example, recently declared, "There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation. There is no Palestinian history. There is no Palestinian language[.]"[12][13]

See also

References

  1. ^Waxman, D. (2006).The Pursuit of Peace and the Crisis of Israeli Identity: Defending/Defining the Nation. Palgrave Macmillan US. p. 50.ISBN 978-1-4039-8347-3.Archived from the original on February 28, 2023. RetrievedNovember 22, 2021.The denial of a separate and distinct Palestinian identity was most famously expressed in 1969 by then Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir when she stated: "There was no such thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian state? ... It was not as though there was a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country from them. They did not exist."
  2. ^abGelvin, J.L.; Gelvin, P.H.J.L. (2005).The Israel-Palestine Conflict: One Hundred Years of War. Cambridge University Press. pp. 92–93.ISBN 978-0-521-85289-0.Archived from the original on December 14, 2021. RetrievedNovember 22, 2021.
  3. ^abParmenter, B.M.K. (2010).Giving Voice to Stones: Place and Identity in Palestinian Literature. University of Texas Press. p. 21.ISBN 978-0-292-78795-7.Archived from the original on December 14, 2021. RetrievedNovember 22, 2021.
  4. ^Said, Edward (1998)."Fifty Years of Dispossession".Index on Censorship.27 (3):76–82.doi:10.1080/03064229808536356.Archived from the original on November 23, 2021. RetrievedNovember 22, 2021.
  5. ^Soussi, Alasdir (March 18, 2019)."The mixed legacy of Golda Meir, Israel's first female PM".Al Jazeera.Archived from the original on November 23, 2021. RetrievedAugust 30, 2023.
  6. ^Frank Giles (June 15, 1969). "Golda Meir: 'Who can blame Israel'".Sunday Times. p. 12.
  7. ^"Iron Lady of Israeli politics" (1970), inThis Week, Thames TV. 18:42
  8. ^New York Times,A talk with Golda Meir Aug. 27, 1972Archived 2021-11-22 at theWayback Machine
  9. ^Cattan, Henry (2022).The Palestine Question. Taylor & Francis. p. 21.ISBN 9781000737509. RetrievedAugust 11, 2023.
  10. ^Foxman, Abraham H. (2007).The Deadliest Lies Place The Israel Lobby and the Myth of Jewish Control. New York: Palgrave Macmillan. pp. 5758.ISBN 978-0-230-60974-7.OCLC 228143383.
  11. ^Ceallaigh, Philip O (March 21, 2013)."The Hundred Years' War on Palestine: 'no such thing as a Palestinian'".The Irish Times.Archived from the original on August 28, 2023. RetrievedApril 14, 2022.
  12. ^Eghbariah, R. (2024). TOWARD NAKBA AS A LEGAL CONCEPT. Columbia Law Review, 124(4), 887–992.https://www.jstor.org/stable/27321593
  13. ^The Guardian, 20 March 2023,Israeli minister condemned for claiming ‘no such thing’ as a Palestinian people,https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/20/israeli-minister-condemned-claiming-no-such-thing-as-a-palestinian-people-bezalel-smotrich
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