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While the idea of a navbox for the important article relating to Daredevil is a good idea, that does not mean thateverything gets included.
Things such as:
Are fan-cruft things that make the 'box unwieldy and almost unusable and shouldnot be included.
I'm going to be bold and weed both the boxand where it's been placed. Frankly, the 'box shouldn't windup onevery page, just what it lists.
-J Greb (talk)15:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Force Works however, were prominately featured on the 1990s Iron Man series (during the first season at least) as opposed to the other teams you mentioned.TMC1982 8:55 p.m., 1 January 2008 (UTC)
As with the villains, using the show is not a good argument for putting a team like Force Works and the characters that made it up into the box. Yes, the show was divorced from theAvengers material, but the majority of the Force Works article is about the comic book material.That is a continuation of the West Coast Avengers making it more an Avengers topic than an Iron Man one.
And the inclusion of the Avenger movies has a similar problem, they arenot Iron Man topics, they areAvengers topics. Including them in this 'box is out of place as including the article on the Avengers itself.
-J Greb (talk)23:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Important storylines are just that, story lines, arcs, not anthology series and in most cases, not ongoing titles. And definitely not story arcs that focus on another character or the Marvel Universe as a whole.
AreIron Man and Sub-Mariner andTales of Suspense important to Iron Man? Yes. Are the Iron Man topics? No. It doesn't matter if it's where the character first appeared or where the strip resided for a period.
-J Greb (talk)23:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Again, the topic ofmost of the articles listed in the 'box right now is either the Avengers or the Marvel Universe with Iron Man being one character among many, at best. These do have a place in the "Iron Man in other media" article, but that's where it links in, not adding the articles directly to the 'box.
-J Greb (talk)23:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Grey Gargoyle and Whirlwind were featured as Mandarin's henchmen on the 1990s Iron Man series.TMC1982 9:45 p.m., 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I kind of find it funny and a bit ironic that you seem to claim to not know who some of these characters are (i.e. Crusher, Dark Aegis, Griffin, and Hypnotia) yet, you're still pointing out your superiority of Marvel Comics over mine.TMC1982 3:01 p.m., 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I think this is a good box. It appears a lot of work was invested into the template; however the size reduces the convenience, consequently the accessibly of the navbox (the primary point). 1.) I really liked the color scheme initally, but I do find it it is a bit distracting on the pages that it has tagged. 2.) The minimally populatedArmor sectioin could easily be incorperated into themisc section. 3.) I also would encourage that the television and film series be incorporated into eachother. 4.) I would recommend that villians be relegated to strict/exclusive Iron Man villians: Iron Man 2020 has never been significant in the greater Iron Man mythos; Nefaria, Arsenal, Crusher are more Avengers villains than Iron Man (Griffin a Champions villain); Roxxon Oil isn't a villain; Dark Aegis can be deleted as it has no notability whatsoever. 5.) Similarly, most of the "Marvel" video games should be deleted as they do not feature the character in a primary role (leaving that section to be incorporated int the other media section). -66.109.248.114 (talk)02:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC).[reply]
| “ | Roxxon Oil isn't a villain | ” |
| “ | Roxxon Oil (a corporation) - A major business rival of Stark Enterprises. They have a shady reputation and are constantly sending supervillains to sabotage Stark Enterprises. -List of Iron Man enemies | ” |
TMC1982 2:05 a.m., 5 January 2008 (UTC)
| “ | is the name of a fictional massive petroleum corporation appearing in comic book stories published by Marvel Comics in the Marvel Universe. | ” |
Members of the company could be villains, a fictional company can not. Please take note that the article itself does not state the company is villainous, but rather list the members of the company who have such behavior. In short:
| “ | Roxxon Oil isn't a villain. | ” |
I've weeded out a lot of minor information from the box, but there's probably still more that needs to be done. The villains list is far too long, and can we not standardise the colours at all? Personally, most of this should already be mentioned in the article or found inCategory:Iron Man. Is this template in anyway needed?HidingT10:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now it's (particularly, anything/everything relating to "Other media" such as video games, films and TV shows) full of clutter instead of being "smooth." Why should the TV shows (not counting his guest starring appearances, two shows heavily featuring him) and films need to be together. To date, if you count theUltimate Avengers films, his own animated film,The Invincible Iron Man, the upcomingNext Avengers film, and the upcoming live-action film, then that's five movies featuring Iron Man in a prominate role. Not countingCaptain America and the Avengers (or the various Marvel, multi-character fighting games), Iron Man has at least two games starring himself to have their own articles on Wikipedia. And I have absolutely no clue why you believe that Iron Man centric storylines like Armor Wars or the Ultimate Iron Man series shouldn't be included in the template?TMC1982 1:31 a.m., 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Just dropped by to say that whoever selected the colors for the template did a great job!Suede67 (talk)21:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Now that I think about it Howard Jr., Maria, and Yinsen should be supporting characters since they're the father, mother, and major life influence respectively of the main character as well as Gregory and Howard Sr. (the mainstream version at least) have a neutralish vibe about them. Also does Howard Sr. really resemble Titanium Man?
Crashsnake—Precedingundated comment added07:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]
Should the "In other media" link be changed back to "Iron Man in other media", so that "War Machine in other media" can be linked to next to it in the template? -Fandraltastic (talk)00:47, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello. I wish to make the addition of the pageIron Man (pinball) to this template in the "Video games" section. It is only a stub at the moment, but it is part ofWikipedia:WikiProject_Pinball, and thus will continue to be worked on. Please consider this inclusion request.
Thank you,Fractalchez (talk)22:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fractalchez (talk)22:53, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done --Ϫ00:25, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]{{edit protected}}Just want to addIron Man 2: Original Motion Picture Score to this template.
NeoBatfreak (talk)22:33, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to request that Edwin Cord, and the Raiders be added to the villians, also Arsenal. (JoeLoeb (talk)17:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC))[reply]
We need to quit adding so many villains here that aren't recurring adversaries or if they are debatable if they are notable. Not to mention that quite a few aren't officially "Iron Man villains". Even though villains like Fixer, Killer Shrike and Coldblood appeared in Iron Man related media that did not make them officially so in comic books. They need to at least appear mostly in Iron Man related comic books. There is two villains I still ain't too sure and that Justine and Shasha Hammer (more so on Shasha). The connection is that they are related to Justin Hammer. That's probably the most notable thing about them.Jhenderson77719:53, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I respect you're civil behavior on this. You are going places. In all honesty, there is no rule on this. I just think we need to be more careful on the placement of characters in a shared universe like Marvel. If you want those characters on there and I disagree with it the main rule is to establish aconsensus for it. I just wish this navbox is more alive on discussion. My sources on determining who belonged was top ten Iron Man villains type articles personally. Also I let Detroit Steel stay because it's written like it has proven notability. The Hammer family (as I said) was complicated to figure out but since I allowed newer villains like Detroit Steel which has a connected story to them I allowed it.Jhenderson77715:08, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What we really need to do is come up with aWP:NPOV means of determining who counts as an Iron Man villain or leave them all out completely. Maybe if they first appeared in an Iron Man series, by the number of appearances in an Iron Man series, or byWP:RS.--TriiipleThreat (talk)15:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not all list sources are probably reliable but they are helpful.
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add avengers to supporting characters (please, thanks)129.49.11.178 (talk)23:58, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: please providereliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —{{U|Technical 13}}(t •e •c)00:18, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]Should he be on the template? His presence in the Iron Man comics were very minimal. Sure, he's appeared in the movies, most notably Iron Man 2...but the real purpose was to set up the then-upcoming Avengers movie.Haleth (talk)05:33, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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98.119.71.240 (talk)22:13, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.Datbubblegumdoe[talk –contribs]03:37, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply] | Thisedit request has been answered. Set the|answered= parameter tono to reactivate your request. |
98.119.71.240 (talk)22:13, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.Datbubblegumdoe[talk –contribs]03:37, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]I understand the difficulty of organizing the box, but given how Iron Man is in several films in the MCU, it may warrant his filmography in this template.161.185.151.51 (talk)21:37, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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In the Antagonists section, put in Freak (Marvel Comics).2600:1700:7E31:5710:4021:68A3:750E:BE10 (talk)22:02, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: please providereliable sources that support the change you want to be made.Eggishorn(talk)(contrib)18:04, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]I splitJ.A.R.V.I.S. fromEdwin Jarvis. For consideration for separate entry in allies. --JHunterJ (talk)18:31, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Folks, we need to continue to realize Wikipedia as a site for general-interest and non-expert readers, not a collection of siloed fan sites. I’m talking about something simple here that shouldn’t be at all controversial, as it is part of site-wide improvement.
There is a section in this template for characters. Nothing but characters are listed in the tree beneath it. It should be titled “Characters”. It is instead titled using one non-descriptive word, the opaque fan/corporate marketing term “Universe”. This term, sans explanation, is deprecated across Wikipedia comic book articles because of its opacity and ambiguity, and you will notice that many articles have been improved so that “appears in such-and-such universe” in the top paragraph instead reads “comic books published by (PUBLISHER NAME)”. This tells a non-expert reader what they need to know without needing to delve into the publishing and marketing history of an entire industry.
As comic book fans, we need to take the same responsibility as any other curators of topics of our personal interest on Wikipedia: its readers may want to know about the topic without sharing our level of prior knowledge. Could we please continue the commendable efforts to de-mystify these articles and templates here, and, sensibly, call the part of the template listing/linking characters, well, “Characters”?ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk)14:10, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be worth adding a 'Teams' section within the 'Characters' umbrella, below the 'Supporting' section?
This section would be for teams Iron Man has been a notable part of, something like this; Avengers | New Avengers | Guardians of the Galaxy | Illuminati— Precedingunsigned comment added byCharleealex (talk •contribs)08:55, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Add the link to the articleTen Rings (organization)!2804:7F2:5A3:F759:E8A9:5154:8497:45EE (talk)10:58, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done Added the link to antagonist Group section.NickyLam12 (talk |contrib)02:01, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply] | Thisedit request has been answered. Set the|answered= parameter tono to reactivate your request. |
Add the link to the articleDmitri Bukharin!2804:7F2:699:8917:C94:40C4:4F42:7618 (talk)10:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: There is already a link toCrimson DynamoScottishFinnishRadish (talk)11:24, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply] | Thisedit request has been answered. Set the|answered= parameter tono to reactivate your request. |
Add link toDeadpool!2804:7F2:699:8917:60B6:213:B265:29AB (talk)04:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: please providereliable sources that support the change you want to be made.ScottishFinnishRadish (talk)09:25, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply] Not done: While this change does not need reliable sources, there is no reason deadpool should be included in this iron man template.Aaron Liu (talk)06:34, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply] | Thisedit request has been answered. Set the|answered= parameter tono to reactivate your request. |
AddMalekith the Accursed in Other enemies!2804:7F2:69B:A759:CCE2:4309:2DBC:12B (talk)18:52, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
