I noticed that these templates use different ways of ordering the IPA consonant symbols:

• some are row by row according to the standard IPA table
• others are alphabetic, with special symbols arranged by likeliness to letters

Would it be better to align all to one way? And how about the vowels?I tend to go for alphabetic ordering, because these templates are meant for easy lookup by non-experts, who are not likely to recognise the logic of the IPA table ordering.

Another way to improve overview for Italian and Russian might be to split off a column in the consonant table for the doubled/palatalised symbols. That way there is more chance that the whole help page would fit on one screen.

−Woodstone (talk)08:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you on alphabetic ordering. In regards to Italian, I'm wondering if the doubled entries can't be eliminated and instead a note saying that all consonants but [blank] can be doubled. As for Russian, could you show a sample of what you mean? —Ƶ§œš¹_{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]}10:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I mean like this:

−Woodstone (talk)11:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have started aligning the IPA help pages. I saw that some use bolded IPA symbols. That is unusual and may hamper seeing them clearly. I propose to make them not bold, but slightly bigger than the normal font. Then the rule set could be:

• IPA symbols centered, <big>, not bold
• IPA symbols ordered alphabetically, slotting in special symbols with similar letters (as inhelp:IPA)
• example words left aligned, not italic, rendered letters bolded
• place footnotes only in the example column (to avoid misalignment)
• use double column if major pairing of symbols occurs (doubles in Italian, palatilisation in Russian)
• transparent background in outer table

−Woodstone (talk)22:37, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:IPAhelp2col has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion atthe template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.DePiep (talk)09:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe Arabic, Catalan, Valencian, Chinese and German need wikilinking. Sicilian might be part of Italian item/entry. --5.43.73.144 (talk)13:57, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Equating a standard variety with the entire language would be stepping on thorny grounds and is better avoided. Especially Mandarin with Chinese. "Dialects" inHelp:IPA/Italian dialects refers tovarieties of the Italian language, not Italo-Dalmatian languages.Nardog (talk)14:49, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Zhuang and Kurdish are for bracketing after Chinese and Turkish, former and latter is order... --5.43.73.144 (talk)14:00, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They are not. They don't even share a language family.Nardog (talk)14:43, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Mister, there is No Sinhala IPA(Help:IPA/Assamese) page in wikipedia, to expand the knowledge of sinhala language we need to create a Sinhala IPA page, so allow us to create Sinhala ipa pageHiniya (talk)10:29, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Be bold.Nardog (talk)10:31, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Brother Please, Allow me to to add "Help:IPA/Sinhala" in "Template:IPA keys" it will enhance the learning of Sinhala languageHiniya (talk)10:18, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have to first create it.Nardog (talk)11:44, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Requesting to addhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Gan_Chinese to Help:IPA templateGrouchio (talk)14:13, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: This is not the talk page for "Help:IPA template" (which does not exist).Throast^{{{ping}} me!} (talk |contribs)21:38, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]