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Several months ago, I asked a question about the purpose of the template located atTemplate:Adventism. Although the template's name implied that it was about the general topic of Advantism, the contents of the template itself was entirely dedicated to just one branch of Advantism, theSeventh-day Adventist Church.1 However I never received an answer as to why the template was almost entirely focused on the Seventh-day Advent Church, while still being applied to general Adventist topics that had no connection with the Seventh-day Advent Church. After mulling this over since then, I've decided to move the previous template toTemplate:Seventh-day Adventism, which more accurately describes the template, and create a more general, and more inclusive, Adventism template atTemplate:Adventism. --Farix (Talk)18:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agree entirely with the logic. The fact that I am now disambiguating "Sabbath" intoSabbath in Seventh-day Adventism may seem at odds with this, but consider: (1) The Sabbath article is the summary ofeverything that is (rightly or wrongly) called Sabbath, while the Adventism article contains the theology appropriate to this template; (2) the Adventism article does allude to other seventh-day movements beside SDA. Last year I remarked that the Adventism article should be retitled and recast because it"should" refer to something likeSeventh-day Sabbath in Christianity, which topic is hardly unique to SDA, does not otherwise exist, and is certainly notable. I trust that with that proviso the disambiguation is appropriate.JJB 00:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I removed the link to "Sabbath keeping in seventh-day churches" as William Miller himself rejected the doctrine along with most of the groups that sprang from the Millerite movement. Seventh-day Adventists were one of the exceptions to this, not the rule.[1]Qinael (talk)22:21, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
While Miller may have rejected the doctrine, several Adventist groups did adopt it such as the General Conference of the Church of God (Seventh-Day) and the Jehovah's Witness. The later of which is not a direct decedent of the Millerite/Adventist movement, but it was heavily influenced by the movement. That along added to the fact that the SDA is the largest of the Adventist groups, it has a place in the template. The other question is, who many SDA splinter groups belong in this template? --Farix (Talk)22:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Jehovah's Witnesses are a Sunday-keeping group that believe the law was done away with at the cross. In no way can they be considered a Sabbath-keeping group, however their ideas on this do match up with the majority of post-Millerite Adventists. So far I know of two groups from Millerism that accepted the Seventh-day doctrine; Church of God Seventh Day, and Seventh-day Adventists. The rest were known collectively to the latter as "First Day Adventists" and, from all indications, made up the vast majority of the movements which came from it. I think that the Sabbath issue should be limited to the Seventh-day Adventism template if it's justification is going to be it's relation to Seventh-day Adventism. If we're going to define Millerism by the practices of Seventh-day Adventism because of it's size, we may as well simply re-combine this template with the one from which it was separated. If the template is about Millerite Adventism, then it's not about the beliefs of certain groups that arose post-Millerism; one or two of which became Seventh-day.Qinael (talk)00:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
