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The result was:promoted bySL93 talk 02:00, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Beck in 2022

• ... thatHans Dieter Beck(pictured) usually used a bicycle to work as a leader ofC. H. Beck legal publishing, running the family business in the sixth generation, until age 92?Source:[1]
  • Reviewed:Grininke Beymelekh

Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC).

• The hook is actually interesting, but it lacks focus due to being too long and trying to fit in too many facts into one hook. Suggesting a split into two separate hooks, with the decision on what hook to use to be left to the reviewer:

ALT1 ... thatHans Dieter Beck(pictured) usually used a bicycle to work as a leader ofC. H. Beck legal publishing?

ALT2 ... thatHans Dieter Beck(pictured) ran his family business, theC. H. Beck legal publishing house, until the age of 92?

Narutolovehinata5 (talk ·contributions) 02:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the offers, but how about leaving the fact in that I found most stunning: that the used the bicycle until age 92, a few weeks before he died while in office? + I find the office more interesting when knowing what kind of long-run family tradition there is behind it, and he one of two leaders, from 1973. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

ALT3 ... thatHans Dieter Beck(pictured) rode a bicycle to work until shortly before his death at the age of 92?

ALT3a ... thatHans Dieter Beck(pictured), one of the two leaders ofC. H. Beck, rode a bicycle to work until shortly before his death at the age of 92?

Maybe that?Narutolovehinata5 (talk ·contributions) 08:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for trying, but I'm not happy with wasting characters on mentioning his death, - work at age 92 seems impressive enough, and then in a company-leading function. ALT3a is closer to what I'd like. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:25, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

I too prefer the original, but it is rather long. How about the following rearrangement:

ALT4 ... that as co-head of the publisherC. H. Beck,Hans Dieter Beck(pictured) rode a bicycle to work until he was 92?

--Hoary (talk) 23:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

ALT4 sounds good and should resolve any concerns with the original hook while still taking into account the nom's wishes.Narutolovehinata5 (talk ·contributions) 02:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

• Full review needed.BlueMoonset (talk) 02:08, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

  Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used, and ALT4 is fine by me. However, this article has already appeared on the main page In the News, so according to my reading of the DYK rules, it is not eligible.Munfarid1 (talk) 10:32, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

  Thank you for the review, and please read again: when appeared with a blurb, then not eligible, but just the name: still eligible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:44, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

• Could you indicate the page where this distinction is made? On the page for DYK reviews, I haven't seen this distinction, but am happy to learn about this.Munfarid1 (talk) 11:52, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

@Munfarid1: It's listed inWP:DYKNEW:Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of OTD are not disqualified, nor are names listed in "Recent deaths" section of ITN. As Beck only appeared in Recent deaths and was not a blurb, the article is still eligible for DYK.Narutolovehinata5 (talk ·contributions) 01:23, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

- Thanks for the explanation. The DYK nomination is now ready to go.Munfarid1 (talk) 07:10, 4 February 2025 (UTC)