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TheVictorian Farmers' Union and the National Party of Australia – Victoria are the same organisation with the former article covering early parts of its history (going beyond it no longer using the VFU name) whilst the current article is brief. Merging the articles will allow the full history on a single article. This set-up matches that for theNational Party of Australia (WA), which similarly has used multiple names during its history.Timrollpickering11:52, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My preference is not to merge the articles (I'm biased though), but if there is consensus to do so I will concede. I would prefer to create and expand the articles for all the various political entities, I know Victorian politics and parties were very complicated but I feel that smooshing them into large history sections of single articles is not the answer. You don't seem to have had any feedback on the merger proposal(s), have you considered asking the question atWikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian politics? --Canley (talk)12:44, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I feel the same as Canley: we need much more development of the specific articles on this era, not less.The Drover's Wife (talk)17:55, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I favour keeping them separate. These kinds of merges tend to lose information about the earlier party (although often the early organisation was not a political party as we understand that term today. While one party may lead to another, it's rarely just a name change, often there are splits and splinter groups. I'd prefer to keep their stories separate. We suffer a lot fromWP:Recentism on Wikipedia (although I'd use that notion more widely that the "current news" mentioned on that policy) in that we seem to want to throw away, simplify or condense history for the benefit of theTL;DR millenial.Kerry (talk)22:19, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am also in favour of keeping them separate. The VFU certainly played a huge part in establishing the Country Party in Victoria but to call them the same organisation would not be strictly accurate. The more complex nature between parliamentary and extra-parliamentary politics at this time played a part too. The various Farmers' and Settlers' Associations should ultimately have their own articles as well.Frickeg (talk)23:43, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm agreed on keeping them separate. If anything, the information on the VFU article should be used to help expand the National Party Victoria article, as well as theCountry Progressive Party article.Kirsdarke01 (talk)05:03, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is a move discussion in progress onTalk:National Party of Australia – NSW which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot11:17, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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