Talk:U.S. Agent
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When most of that group disbanded in the wake of the apparent death of theoriginal Human Torch, the USAgent,Union Jack, and theBlazing Skull apparently remained together as a group.
Following a discussion on rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe, I've removed this passage, since no-one on that group has any recollection of such a suggestion in the comics. If there was such a suggestion, please state where.Daibhid C 17:23 24 Oct 2005 (UTC)
I believe that this may have been stated in U.S. Agents entry in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe. I may be able to provide reference later, however I can confirm that it has never been stated on-page elsewhere.— Precedingunsigned comment added by86.136.112.180 (talk)17:22, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can confirm that it was stated in Agents handbook entry that he 'remained with the team until it broke up', however it is not stated anywhere when or exactly why the team disbanded. The suggestion that it was because of the death of the Human Torch is probably correct but is an assumption nevertheless (Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Vol 12, 2009)— Precedingunsigned comment added by86.136.112.180 (talk)17:36, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In the first paragraph it lists Walker as the 5th Captain America, but in the second paragraph under the Captain America heading it says "After a meeting with her, Walker was made the sixth Captain America."
Which is it?Grey Shadow11:27, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Its incredibly unclear as there have been so many Caps and retcons introducing new "old" Caps over the years. SeeCaptain America#Alternate Captain Americas for more of an explanation. I say just take out any nomencluture and just say that he once served as Captain America.Hueysheridan15:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In a lot of respects it was a series aboutScourge, but his first miniseries should probably be given some sort of mention in the articleImpulse17:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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It might be noteworthy or at least a little fun to list the various shields he used and their features and when/where they appeared. The sheilds he used while with the Avengers, the Jury, S.T.A.R.S., New Invaders, and so on. Just a thought.—Precedingunsigned comment added by67.8.230.39 (talk)17:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have made mention in a recent edit of Walkers remote controlled shield, used when leader of the Jury, and his shield with retractable spikes and the names of American victims of terrorism, used when with the New Invaders. I have also mentioned that as Captain America Walker used Steve Rogers iconic shield and then when he became the U.S. Agent he adopted the Vibranium shield that had been created by Tony Stark for use by Rogers when he adopted the role of 'The Captain'. Walkers energy shield - used when he was with Force Works - has already been mentioned.
In light of this a specialist section on Walkers shields probably isnt necessary.— Precedingunsigned comment added by86.136.112.180 (talk)17:49, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Does anybody else think it's odd that the US Agent has the same name as one of the most notorious spies in American history? Particularly since that spy was caught right about the time the US Agent was created (mid 1980s)?—Precedingunsigned comment added by165.97.69.26 (talk)22:20, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think its probably more likely that Mark Gruenwald named him after the alcoholic beverage Johnny Walker, bearing in mind that he later re-named him Jack Daniels.— Precedingunsigned comment added by86.136.112.180 (talk)17:26, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The titles of the book and Marvel's own website spell John Walker's codename "U.S.Agent", so shouldn't that be the name of the article?2001:569:F875:3D00:1C60:5E00:DDA7:B08E (talk)03:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I expect this character to be notable, but this needs to be shown better than through listicles (rankings). I've added some prose but note this is really related toSuper-Patriot (Marvel Comics). Having same text trying to estabilish notability of two pages is not idea. Please improve the reception to show how this character in various variants received recognition etc.Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here01:22, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There are some facts that proves he is evangelical christian, or have some affinity with that movement. For example:
- In Captain America # 333, when John Walker becomes the new Captain America, he says that his father was an evangelical minister and that he grew up in a religious family.
- In Captain America # 354, when Walker adopts the name of U.S. Agent, he is shown praying in a church before his first mission with the West Coast Avengers.
- In Avengers West Coast # 69, when the Avengers face a cult called the Universal Church of Truth, U.S. Agent says that he knows what it is like to be deceived by a false religion, and that he found the truth in the gospel.
- In U.S. Agent Vol. 2 # 1, when Walker returns to his hometown in Georgia, he is seen visiting his father's grave in the cemetery of the Southern Baptist Church.
These facts indicate that U.S. Agent has a personal history and a connection with evangelicalism, especially with the Southern Evangelical branch, which is the largest Protestant denomination in the United States. He has some elements of that religious tradition in his origin and personality.JordiWild98 (talk)16:02, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was asked to jointhis discussion on the WikiProject Comics talk page, but I think I'll summarize my view here, and then leave a link on the Project talk page.
First off, Jordi,WELCOME TO WIKIPEDIA! I hope you find editing here to be fun and fulfilling, and that Wikipedia will benefit from your contributions. :-)
That being said, you need to dial down the comments that violate Wikipedia's policies onCivility,No Personaal Attacks andAssuming Good Faith. Explain why you disagree, yes, but comments like "Don't you know how to read?" and "you talk too much and act too little" violate Wikipedia's policies, and can get you blocked from editing. You'renew here, I get that, but joining a 22-year-old community composed of thousands of veteran editors and insulting them when you're still learning the rules is not the way to go about joining that community. So let's keep things civil here, okay?
Wikipedia requires the material in its articles to be supported mainly byWP:PSTS secondary sources. Primary sources -- in this case the comics themselves -- can be used in alimited manner for things like their credits and their contents, but not for material that constitutes novel analytic, evaluative or interpretative claims of the editor. Using primary sources in this manner is calledSynthesis, which is a form of original research, and isstrictly prohibited on Wikipedia. Statements like"These facts indicate that U.S. Agent has a personal history and a connection with Evangelicalism, especially with the Southern Evangelical branch, which is the largest Protestant denomination in the United States. He has some elements of that religious tradition in his origin and personality." -- which I notice was not accompanied by a citation -- are clearly not permissable on Wikipedia.
In addition, Wikipedia articles are not places to make arguments for a point of view. This is clearly indicated by Wikipedia's policy onNeutrality, and by related guidelines such asWP:SOAPBOX,WP:FORUM, etc.
I also notice that you cited another Wikipedia article as a source. Editors cannot cite one Wikipedia article as a source in another, because this iscircular sourcing, which is also not permitted. And that other site, ComicBookReligion.com looks like a fan site. I doubt it would pass Wikipedia'sReliable Sources policy.
Mind you, I don't think there's anything wrong with mentioning details of a character's upbringing in his origin, like the fact that his father was a minister, so long as you do soin passing, and cite the issue of the comics in question. Nor is there anything wrong with mentioning such things when it features prominently in a character's origin, like Nightcrawler being Catholic, or Magento, Kitty Pryde, or Sabra being Jewish. But devoting an entire section toarguing that he's this religion or that, when that material does not come from reliable secondary sources, is not permitted on Wikipedia.
I hope this helps.Nightscream (talk)04:42, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the move request was:not moved. Opponents of the move pointed toMOS:TM (and its subsection,MOS:TMRULES), which holds that stylized official names should not retain their stylization on Wikipedia unless that stylization predominates in the source body. A number of independent sources were furnished in support of the existing title; conversely, while the proposed title had greater numerical support, the only sources shown to use the stylization were official sources. Thus, a review of the arguments indicates that the weight of policy supports retaining the existing title.(closed by non-admin page mover)ModernDayTrilobite (talk •contribs)19:26, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
U.S. Agent →U.S.AgentU.S.Agent – The correct spelling per Marvel's usage, as seenon the company's character profile and across the publication history dating back decades. The name is a play on "U.S.A.", which is also conventionally written with no spaces, even when the dots are present. The move could be done unilaterally, but I wanted to make sure there was no objections.oknazevad (talk) 02:21, 5 May 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. cyberdog958Talk05:21, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When selecting a name for an article on a character, use the "most common name" as the rule) andMOS:TMRULES (
Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization practices, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use, rather than inventing a new one). It seems the space version is used the most:Uproxx,Esquire,The Direct,USA Today,CBR,ScreenRant,Entertainment Weekly,Rolling Stone,Hollywood Reporter,Variety.Frost07:29, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Most people would click to see what he appeared in (on-screen) before Thunderbolts and click off, not reading any of that.
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