Talk:Rogers Hornsby
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Jeff Kent has since passed 300 home runs so the comment that Rogers is the only 2B to hit 300 HRs needs to be removed.
Well there are two KKK members in the hall of fame and Ty Cobb while known as a racist there is no evidence he was in the KKK the two members were Tris Speaker and Rogers Hornsby both Texas natives.
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Speaker was a member of the KKK, but this was when it was more a political party than what we think of it today. He actually was very supportive of many African-American players when they started to come into the majors.
As for Collins, was it him or Pinky Higgins who was the racist (or was it both of them)?Posted by John (Don't Call Me Grandma) Murphy on September 01, 2004 at 05:50 PM (#831739)
Hornsby was also a KKK member, I believe, but he wasn't very partial to black ballplayers (though he wasn't a virulent racist).
My understanding is that Hornsbywas a bigot to some degree, about both blacks and Jews. So were a lot of white people in his generation... and now, for that matter, except it's not socially acceptable. Instead, you hear euphamisms about "liberals" and how they've "ruined this country" during the last 50 years (coincident withBrown v. Board of Education). Hornsby was fairly despicable in a number of ways. Most of his players, who were white, hated him. But unless you can cite solid evidence that he was in the KKKand that it's relevant, i.e. that he openly supported lynchings, etc., then to put it on here smacks of McCarthyism. I see whereLucille Ball's association with Communism in her younger days gets a mention, but that's because she was called before the HUAC. I am not aware that Hornsby was ever called to account for whatever organizations he might or might not have belonged to. But if he was, and if it's verifiable and not just gossip, that could merit a mention on this page.Wahkeenah20:05, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Call me olf-fashioned, but are there any sources for this? I see a lot of nice stories and for all I know (or anyone that reads them) they could be completely made up. Example
Sounds like POV / unverifiable information to me.Mglovesfun01:49, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Based on his treatment of Satchel Paige, I would say that he wasn't a bigot, but that is pure speculation by me....99.182.32.199 (talk)04:10, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
On the Triple Crown wiki-page, Ted Williams is listed has having won twice, as well....—Precedingunsigned comment added by71.212.217.80 (talk)16:18, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I'll review this article ideally within a few days.WizardmanOperation Big Bear22:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here's one big thing I noticed that you can fix while I read the article over. For the references, you rewrite everything, the title, publisher, isbn, etc. on each ref. Instead, use just the author and page and put the book in a bibliography section, much like whatPaul Krichell has.WizardmanOperation Big Bear05:01, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Another thing I noticed while reading the article is that while many places are of decent length (the Cards section is fairly good), the Cubs and Browns sections could definitely be longer. That was eight years, one of which he won an MVP, and I didn't really feel that given how much everything trailed off there. A bit more expansion in the article would definitely help. I don't push length too much, but when there's 16kb of prose in the bio of probably the greatest second baseman in MLB history, beefing the article is definitely a plus.WizardmanOperation Big Bear05:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That looks better; I'll give the prose a read tonight.WizardmanOperation Big Bear17:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here are the prose issues I found:
Done through Giants. Tomorrow I'll review Braves onward, then I'll give a final slew of non-prose issues I have. We're getting close to a GA now.WizardmanOperation Big Bear05:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here are the prose issues for Braves onward:
Also, here's some final comments elsewhere:
I know I've been asking a lot, but the article already looks better, and once these fixes are put in we should be good to go. I'll put the article on hold, and once the issues are fixed I'll take one more look at the article.WizardmanOperation Big Bear05:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This looks good now. I'll read through the article again tomorrow and hopefully pass it.WizardmanOperation Big Bear04:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
After riding the article another read though, I'm going to pass it. It looks a lot better now, and it satisfies all the criteria.WizardmanOperation Big Bear03:52, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Has anyone reviewed the "See also" section lately? Sometimes things just creep in and I don't see that 17 links is justified. The section is not adumping ground for all things "List of".Otr500 (talk)11:11, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
One big reason t hat Hornsby was fired as Cubs manager in 1932 was t hat team own Wrigley found out Hornsby had heavily borrowed money from most of the Cubs players to feed his gambling habit.— Precedingunsigned comment added by198.23.5.30 (talk)20:24, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
