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Requested move 31 May 2019

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The following is a closed discussion of arequested move.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider amove review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was:Moved.(closed by non-admin page mover)SITH(talk)14:40, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]



Space Shuttle main engineRS-25 – The designation of "Space Shuttle Main Engine" has shifted from being thetitle of this engine to adescriptor, and it's a misleading one at that. With theSLS now using these engines, along with NASA's shift to using the RS-25 name, I think keeping the old SSME name is doing more harm than good. We don't call theF-1 theSaturn V main engine after all. It's much more concise to say, "the space shuttle used three RS-25s as its main engines," than it is to say, "the SLS will use four Space Shuttle Main Engines." One's a proper rocket engine name, the other's anapplication of said rocket engine.

Basically, calling this rocket by it's technical designation is far more concise, consistent, and precise than calling it by its former use. While the latter was justifiable when the one and only application of the RS-25 was as part of the space shuttle system, it no longer makes sense to use that designator as the engine's primary name. Anyone searching for "space shuttle main engine" on wikipedia will understand immediately why they were redirected to an article named "Rocketdyne RS-25," but someone unfamiliar with their use in the shuttle program might be confused why their query for "RS-25" redirects them to "space shuttle main engine." -Jadebenn (talk)08:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

On further introspection, perhaps it would be more consistent to rename it to eitherRS-25 orAerojet Rocketdyne RS-25. The former is consistent withRS-68, and the latter is the actual full name. Unsure if that requires a new request or not -Jadebenn (talk)08:44, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Changed rename request toRS-25. -Jadebenn (talk)09:04, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Balon Greyjoy: I'm not against that. In articles where the space shuttle is being discussed, using the SSME name can make sense. It's just, like you said, that the article name should reflect the fact that the engine is no longer exclusive to the space shuttle system. -Jadebenn (talk)16:32, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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SLS Section

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This section has severely out-of-date info and could probably use some love. -Jadebenn (talk)08:39, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not much on design for reuse

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I couldn't see how many STS launches they were designed to do between overhauls (3 I think) or how many launches in total they were designed or intended for. Which parts had to be specially designed so that the engine was reusable ? How much did the design for reuse, increase the development cost and the cost per engine ? -Rod57 (talk)12:08, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In 1970 the design goal for the SSME was 50 flights before replacement, but I'm not sure what they were eventually certified for.
The original Rocketdyne turbopump bearings were only lasting for 2 fights, replaced later by P&W turbopumps. -Rod57 (talk)09:42, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Role of Chamber Coolant Valve

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Section 1.4.1 (Controller - Main Valves) mentions that the Chamber Coolant Valve (CCV) is 100% open at high throttle settings, "for maximum cooling," and is progressively closed at low throttle setting "for reduced cooling". This seems to contradict the schematic diagram of the engine in this same article (which is derived from various sources). The CCV appears to function as a bypass valve, bypassing the coolant plumbing and going straight to the preburners. Therefore, it appears (to this layman) that closing the CCV would actuallyincrease the fuel flow through the nozzle and chamber cooling sections, as less fuel is able to bypass and would be then increasingly forced through the two sections of plumbing that provide cooling. If this is the case, my guess is that at lower thrust levels, the mass flow through the engine is less and therefore the regenerative cooling is reduced, so the CCV is closed to pick up the slack. Indeed, the source referenced at the end of section 1.4.1, reference 5, doesn't mention anything about "maximum cooling" or "reduced cooling," and simply states the valve positions for various throttle levels, which makes me think that these statements in the article are incorrect. Of course, I could be entirely wrong about this - perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can elaborate.— Precedingunsigned comment added by67.83.150.17 (talk)17:09, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Photo Copyright

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To my enthusiastic surprise, a photo taken by me is used on this page. Can I get credit for it? It is currently labeled as being owned by someone else and all the data referring to date and camera settings are all wrong. Thank youDaj750 (talk)18:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi@Daj750:, sorry if nobody replied to you yet. This is a serious matter (and unfortunately not too uncommon) that Wikipedia can help you deal with. You cancontact English Wikipedia admins by email for immediate response, and/or you can requestcopyright review on both Wikimedia Commons, or both. Review the instructions and include both this article page and the specific image that you are referring to, because it is unclear from your post which photograph you mean.2A02:AA10:E777:9280:40F9:351D:F82B:9EEA (talk)17:09, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Slightly different value for the "Chamber pressure" in the main table and metric units should be first in order

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As the title says, the source from web.archive that cited saysChamber Pressure: 204.08 bar , 1 bar = 100 000 Pa, so it should be 20.408 MPa (2,959.93 psi), and metric units first.MrBart31 (talk)08:31, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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