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Is there any Prince of the HRE with the rank below that of Reichsgraf ?

User talk:Siyac 11:43, 12 April 2014 (UTC)— Precedingunsigned comment added bySiyac (talkcontribs)

Technically yes, but it was uncommon. There were a few imperial princes such as Kinsky (promoted in 1747) and Reuss-Köstritz (promoted in 1806) who were titular princes of the Holy Roman Empire and did not rule over any sovereign territory (even as former counts). Any Reichsgraf with Reichsunmittelbarkeit would outrank such princes.
Additionally, some foreign princes (with sovereignty outside of the HRE), mostly from Poland-Lithuania and Italy, were granted imperial princely titles whilst not having Reichsunmittelbarkeit in the HRE. So in theory, they would be outranked by a sovereign Reichsgraf, within imperial borders at least. These would include the Princes of Belmonte, the Princes Chigi, the Princes Orsini, the Princes of Broglie,the Princes Orloff,the Princes Potemkin,the Princes Lubomirski, and the Princes Radziwiłł.
Otherwise no secular, sovereign imperial prince (with Reichsunmittelbarkeit) would be below the rank of Reichsgraf. Throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries a Reichsgraf would in theory outrank any titular prince whose ancestors were never sovereign which became an increasingly common phenomenon. E.g., the imperial counts of Schaesberg outrank the princes of Bismarck. This was mostly due to the overinflation of princely titles post-1806, largely attributable to the Prussian and Austrian titling frenzies.— Precedingunsigned comment added by2A01:4B00:805F:3400:5B05:C3E3:7100:B6E0 (talk)07:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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