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Note: Peter Boykin is very notable as the founder of Gays For Trump, as indicated on the page. He has been featured on multiple mainstream media sources, including Newsweek, Time Magazine, BBC, and a slew of various gay publications. As well as he is a politician who ran for political office. Although there may be some items that are self-published they tend to just add to the sources and his notability. One would assume that someone who has been featured in so many mainstream publications must be notable. Also, note the size of the contributions of sources indicates that this individual has a place on this page. I would suggest that instead of removing the article one would suggest what changes should be implemented.7valentine7 (talk)24:22, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Removing the Tag from the article, if you would like examples from other pages where a lot less information about individuals are supplied and they are still up I can provide. I would hate to say that due to the nature of the individual in question and his being controversial that in the same realm ofMilo Yiannopoulos that many will attempt to shut down this article. I in good faith created this article with as much information as I could find on the subject. I have attempted to add information that has remained with fact and neutral to the matter. This person is notable, as many mainstream sources have covered him, and that he is a registered politician. All one has to do is a simple google search on this individual and the results are very high. Such is not for many people out there. This is why this person is of interest and is notable. I will remove the tag, as I object, I would have to claim that instead, this review history of the page has seen many individuals that did not have an issue with the article so this could be conceived as an attack on this article.7valentine7 (talk)24:39, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I neglected to explain my tagging, my mistake. There is clear peacock terminology in this article, and use of quotes from Boykin for promotion of the subject. Also, it relies on POV sources, likeBig League Politics. – Muboshgu (talk)04:52, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you saw a POV source then you could remove that source? Although if you go to the source above and watch the video you can clearly see that Peter Boykin was attacked. Not sure how a POV can said considering the POV is from watching the video of the attack?7valentine7 (talk)00:54, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A closer examination shows more significant problems. The text"Boykin threw a peaceful event although in the city violent protesters were present."
is supported by thisNBC News source. This makes it sound as though protesters came to the DeploraBall and caused a scene. Really there's nothing about violence in the source, nothing about protesters protesting the DeploraBall (it's just about the general anti-Trump protests of the time), and no reason at all to call this a "peaceful event" among "violent protesters". – Muboshgu (talk)04:56, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you research the DeploraBall there were multiple events in the DC area called "DeploraBall" the one in DC became violent and there was a considerable amount of protestors. If you note the article does explain that the "Gay" Deploraball was peaceful compared to the other violent events going on in Washington DC.7valentine7 (talk)00:04, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can we resolve this POV tag? What would your suggestion be?7valentine7 (talk)00:08, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I am new... learning...7valentine7 (talk)06:06, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note this page stood for almost 48 hours and with multiple "bots" and users that helped to edit this page. Until I made an edit on theGays for Trump page as per the suggestions in its talk page.Since then this page has been recommended for deletion although the subject is widely known in many media outlets. Notable media outlets. He also is a politician and former candidate for NC house.
I would suggest that before one attacks this page that one would suggest edits to the page to clear up any issues. Otherwise, I will keep a watchful eye over this page and fight changes until everyone can be satisfied.Though at some time these attacks must stop.7valentine7 (talk)05:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"fight changes"on Wikipedia. We formWP:CONSENSUS, and adhere to theWP:5P of Wikipedia, includingWP:NPOV. If you want to be part of the discussion, I suggest you try not to make Wikipedia yourWP:BATTLEGROUND. – Muboshgu (talk)05:38, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I am new here, I don't understand all your lingo. But I sometimes call a rotten egg a rotten egg. I have included myself in the discussion. I am learning. As there have been a lot of edits to the page, I am glad that this is being done and those working on it can ensure that the page stays up. At the end of the day that's the whole point I made the page. I included as much information as I could find about the subject in anticipation of others stepping in to dispute such a thing.7valentine7 (talk)05:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not. Thanks for cleaning it up7valentine7 (talk)07:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As with the new changes I see that the article still refers to the fact that Peter Boykin is still doing a broadcast called Maga First News, as indicated he has changed this branding to #GoRight with Peter Boykin.Please suggest how we can add this to the article and source it as the only sources were I assume from Peter Boykin's blogs? He does have the branding on this youtube, patreon, spreaker, and other locations as well indicating the change in his programs. Please suggest how we can go about adding this section.
Also, there is a movement he founded called #GoRight, please suggest how this can be properly added to the page. I do not have other sources to indicate this launch other than his own announcement7valentine7 (talk)05:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Mid-2019 scam against Buttigieg.Gleeanon409 (talk)11:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Please elaborate?7valentine7 (talk)15:30, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Are these sources even reliable?
If not, I propose they be removed/replaced. ---Another Believer(Talk)14:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest that any sources removed or disputed be moved to the additional reading section. I still find it hard to believe that Newsweek has fallen so low. Though if the daily beast and Newsweek are the same company it makes since why on a Google search these come up so frequently.7valentine7 (talk)15:34, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest removed sources that pointed to other items disputed still be added to the "additional reads" section7valentine7 (talk)15:31, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not adding I just suggested7valentine7 (talk)15:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Peter Boykin is Running For US Congress this may need to be added to this wikipageThe website is BoykinForCongress.com
In May 2021, he announced that he was running for US Congress to representNorth Carolina's 13th congressional district[1][2]
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Peter Boykin himself appears to have edited this article extensively, per the declaration of IP editor 65.118.44.201 being Boykin atTalk:Gays for Trump/Archive 1#Why was Peter Boykin Removed from the Page Linking to him being the President of Gays For Trump?. The same account was also used for edits on this article. -Indy beetle (talk)20:51, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Peter Boykin is Running For Lt Governor this info is included on this wikipage already.This is a placeholder for links that need to be added as references.
"as is Peter Boykin, an “Americans First Constitutionalist” who garnered a mere 170 votes in the May 2022 Republican primary for state House District 63."[1][2]
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