Talk:Pali
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There is an extensive literature in Pali that is "living". How can it be called dead? I propose that relevant defintion be modified.
The facts: There are words in Pali literature that are attributed to "Buddho Bhagava". Those words should be considered as the origin of the language. Of course, like any other languge, it changed over the course of 2500 years. We now have an extensive literature. For example see Hinuber.Dgdcw (talk)12:17, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm not sure that the motivations for this are very clearly explained in the article as it stands today (you have to read very far down in the article and fill in some gaps). Originally, Buddhists wanted to use a language that was much closer to what people spoke in their daily lives in order to make doctrines accessible to all (as opposed to the Brahmins' use of archaic Sanskrit, only taught to a relative few). However, as the spoken languages kept evolving down the centuries, Pali itself eventually became increasingly remote from everyday speech, and some Pali writings became subjected to Sanskritizing influences...AnonMoos (talk)14:13, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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im not sure why buddhist texts are dated so late when we clearly know that pali and BHS are older languages, even wikipedia acknowledges that pali and BHS are earlier than middle indo aryan like prakrits which are dated to third cen BC. SO i dont understand why there is so much issue regarding dating pali and BHS texts from the late buddhist period, i dont know why western scholars are so interested in dating indian stufflate. i was listening to Mr. Richard Salomon and he also dates the buddhist texts from the period actual buddhist manuscripts have been discovered knowing fully well that buddhist manuscripts may have not survived indian environment and thus only north india/ central asian regions manuscripts have been found. The amaravathi and buddhist centers there which produced loads of buddhist texts date back pre mauryan times. Pali and BHS have been declared as mixed languages even though its clearly a misnomer, these languages are more archaic and perhaps were preserved solely because of the religions like jainism, buddhism and other sramanic religions who didn't like sanskrit or liturgical language of the brahmins. First of all the entire buddhist hybrid notion is a misnomer, which is aimed at reducing the importance of these pre prakritic languages, secondly these languages who's texts have survived not being acknowledged as earlier period than prakrits and thirdly not being categorized as an earlier middle indo aryan languages. i think the sole reason for their classification is that if these texts are dated earlier, they will force the scholarship to date brahmic alphabets earlier and with that chances of connecting the brahmi with aramaic, attempts of which have already partially failed become almost zero since it is likely to coincide with achaemenid pre aramaic adoption period of pure cuneiform. I wont even mention the complications which arise with categorizing mitanni indo aryan language. Linguists want to keep a gap of least more than a thousand years before the middle indo aryans arise after the aryan migration115.135.130.182 (talk)03:13, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The article itself states that Pali is a middle Indo Aryan language and yet there are those who vandalise the language family section, writing that Pali is descended from SanskritWhich Sanskrit exactly , Vedic or classical ?Bodhiupasaka (talk)07:34, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Spasemunki, thank you. Atleast someone has a good understanding of linguistic history.Bodhiupasaka (talk)14:12, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What does an image venerating Lord Vishnu, that too, written in Sanskrit language have to do with the Pali Language article ?Bodhiupasaka (talk)07:36, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That is a nonsensical excuse.Every language is compared with every other language by scholars and non-scholars alike.By your spurious logic, why not add images of Homer's poem and the pages of the Latin Bible to the Sanskrit article in wikipedia, since Classical Sanskrit is often compared with Ancient Greek and Classical Latin ?That Image(venerating Vishnu in Sanskrit) has to be removed. And you know that very well.
Bodhiupasaka (talk)14:16, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is quite amusing that you accuse me of 'harassment'.Unlike a 'certain someone', I don't harass or bully others by threatening to edit block them.Bodhiupasaka (talk)14:17, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And how exactly Am I 'hounding' you with the same question everywhere, when this talk section is intended for everyone ? You are not the only one on Wikipedia.Bodhiupasaka (talk)05:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It seems you do not want Pali to be written in Burmese or Sinhalese script but you allow images that have written Sanskrit and Pali in Devanagari and ironically in the Burmese script respectfully. This is sheer hypocrisy on your part.Bodhiupasaka (talk)05:41, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Spasemunki, Thank you for concurring with my position.I don't really have a problem with any user. However undoing my edits and contributions, even when they are backed by scholarly publications(Nalanda article), is quite unfounded.And with all due respect, I am not the one who blankly accuses others of 'harassment'. That distinction belongs to another user on this thread. It is him/her who is dragging personal issues on to this talk page.
Bodhiupasaka (talk)06:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I notice that the Phonology:Consonants section shows the Thai letters used to represent Pali. This seems both arbitrary & a little out of place. Anyone object to my:
Pathawi (talk)20:59, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Could anyone help to translate theSanskrit words in the sections withsaṃskṛta →pālī format? As in:
——170.64.197.129 (talk)13:29, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Modern scholars generally regard Pali to have originated from a western dialect, rather than an eastern one. Pali has some commonalities with both the western Ashokan Edicts at Girnar in Saurashtra, and the Central-Western Prakrit found in the eastern Hathigumpha inscription." The wiki page on the Hathigumpha inscription does not mention anywhere about an "Central-Western Prakrit" and The Hathigumpha inscription is located in the east. Is this sentence suppose to be relevant as to why modern scholars think Pali is western or was this suppose to be apart of a seperate paragraph about how Pali is difficult to classify, or does the wiki page on the Hathigumpha inscription needs an additional explenation on which prakrit dialect is being written?2603:7000:C00:6:86EC:57D5:4E76:3F94 (talk)20:10, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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