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Ottoman Iraq is currently a World historygood article nominee.Nominated byThegiantofgiants (talk) at 18:52, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

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Short description: 1534–1920 Ottoman rule of Iraq

Ottoman Iraq (final version) received apeer review by Wikipedia editors, which was[[Wikipedia:Peer review/OttomanIraq/archive1|archived]] on 10 August 2025. It may contain ideas you can use to improve this article.
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I've listed this article for peer review because I want feedback before nominating it for Good Article status. In particular, I’d like comments on sourcing precision and consistency, neutral tone, and terminology standardization, as well as on prose clarity.Thanks,Thegiantofgiants (talk)22:46, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Thegiantofgiants: Comments after a quick skim:

  • I have added citation needed tags to the article. In most cases, there should be a citation at the end of every paragraph, minimum.

Other than that, I don't have any concerns. This can probably go toWP:GAN once the citation concerns are fixed.Z1720 (talk)05:30, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. I’ve addressed the citations needed issue. Closing this peer review.Thegiantofgiants (talk)18:40, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator:Thegiantofgiants (talk ·contribs)18:52, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer:FenrisAureus (talk·contribs)06:00, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello fellow traveller! I will be reviewing this nomination over the course of the next few days. If you have time, please consider reviewing an article atWP:GAN.—FenrisAureus(she/they) (talk)06:00, 1 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FenrisAureus: Hi ma'am, I just wanted to check how it's going with the article review. Was there something unclear? I noticed you haven't added any more comments since 6th October.Thegiantofgiants (talk)18:38, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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LGTM!Pass.FenrisAureus(she/they) (talk)06:14, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Thegiantofgiants:The large number of contemporary maps is redundant. As all show essentially the same information, trimming the selection to one map each for pre and post Tanzimat reforms and moving those maps toOttoman Iraq#Institutionalizing Tanzimat Reforms in Iraq (1847–1851) to provide context for their inclusion my choices for the selections would be the "1849 (Mitchell)" map and "1855, showing sanjaks" as they are of the best quality, show the most detail, and are in english, however if your opinions on those selections are different I am not averse to different choices.On hold until remediated.FenrisAureus(she/they) (talk)06:37, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@FenrisAureus: Thank you for the review. I want to clarify why I've held off on including contemporary maps.The available European and Persian maps from the period don't really reflect the Ottoman administrative reality we're documenting. The reason is that European maps were looking for their biblical past and so saw any land in Mesopotamia as one. On the other hand, Persians saw part of Iraq as lost Iranian heartland and so their maps often distinguished drew distinctions that Ottomans didn't.
Using them as "a map of Ottoman Iraq" would inadvertently prioritize these external views over the Ottoman one. I'm open to including one if you think it's necessary, but we would need to cross-check it carefully with Ottoman administrative records (like a Salname) and frame it with the proper context. However, the issue here is that would be counted as own research since we would apply it to a specific map.
See Zeinab Azarbadegan’s Imagined Geographies, Re-invented Histories: Ottoman Iraq as Part of Iran for more context.Thegiantofgiants (talk)10:52, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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