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Greetings Wikipedians! Before I made my edits today, the first sentence in the Military Assessment section said that Cromwell has been credited for the formation of the New Model Army. But was that credit justified? I am far from an expert on this, but the Encyclopedia Britannia article on the New Model Army gives us a more nuanced position, giving some credit to Fairfax. I have endeavored to capture this position in the edits I made today. Cordially,BuzzWeiser196 (talk)21:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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This article is considered offensive in Scotland and Ireland, no mention of the genocides carried out there under his orders. In Scotland and Ireland he is considered a war criminal.
In the siege of Dundee for instance, his troops undertook almost a fortnight of murder, rape and looting, culminating in the execution of over 2000 civilians of the city’s population of 12000.
This article ultimately appears heavily biased, insensitive to the war crimes his troops carried out, and and implies he is an important and outstanding heroic figure. He remains to this day the focus of great hatred and resentment in Ireland and Scotland, and this should not simply be outrightly glorified.
Under the section "Battle of Worcester", the text currently says: "In the final stages of the Scottish campaign, Cromwell's men underGeorge Monck sacked Dundee, killing up to 1,000 men and 140 women and children".[3] The Gazetteer for Scotland says "Some sources suggest this was as many as 2,000" but does not say what the source for the higher number is. Please can you give a verbatim proposal for how would change the current wording and what your source is. If we are going to give a figure that is different to Williams & Forrest it needs to be authoritative. Please also bear in mindWP:NPOV. Thank you.Dormskirk (talk)01:25, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've just removed this paragraph fromRepublicanism in the United Kingdom for relevance, but I can't find any equivalent page where this information is displayed. Accordingly, I'm putting it here so that someone who's more clued up on the subject than I am can find a good place to put it. Thanks!
Catholics were persecuted zealously under Cromwell.[1] Although he personally was in favour of religious toleration – "liberty for tender consciences" – not all his compatriots agreed.Cromwell's conquest of Ireland led to much death and chaos, and those who had fought for the Royalists were persecuted. There was a ban on many forms of entertainment, as public meetings could be used as a cover for conspirators; horse racing was banned, themaypoles were famously cut down, the theatres were closed, and Christmas celebrations were outlawed for being too ceremonial, Catholic, and "popish".[citation needed][citation unneeded] (talk)19:05, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The material is hardly relevant to Cromwell himself. Cromwell's so-called compatriots were his fellowPuritans. They were against theforced conversions favored by other Christian factions, but hardly eager to allow the other factions to freely operate and worship as they wished. Per the main article:
"Puritan rule in England was marked by limited religious toleration. TheToleration Act of 1650 repealed theAct of Supremacy,Act of Uniformity, and all laws makingrecusancy a crime. There was no longer a legal requirement to attend the parish church on Sundays (for both Protestants and Catholics). In 1653, responsibility for recording births, marriages, and deaths was transferred from the church to a civil registrar. The result was that church baptisms and marriages became private acts, not guarantees of legal rights, which provided greater equality to dissenters[2]
"The 1653Instrument of Government guaranteed that in matters of religion, "none shall be compelled by penalties or otherwise, but endeavours be used to win them by sound Doctrine and the Example of a good conversation". Religious freedom was given to "all who profess Faith in God by Jesus Christ".[3] However,Catholics and some others were excluded. No one was executed for their religion duringthe Protectorate.[3] In London, people who attendedCatholic mass or Anglicanholy communion were occasionally arrested, but released without charge. Many unofficial Protestant congregations, such asBaptist churches, were permitted to meet.[4]Quakers were allowed to publish freely and to hold meetings. They were, however, arrested for disrupting parish church services and organisingtithe-strikes against the state church.[5]"Dimadick (talk)00:09, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
References
^Loomie, Albert (2004). "Oliver Cromwell's Policy toward the English Catholics: The Appraisal by Diplomats, 1654–1658".The Catholic Historical Review.90 (1):29–44.doi:10.1353/cat.2004.0023.JSTOR25026519.S2CID159858678.
^Coffey & Lim 2008, pp. 83–84: "But it was not for their heterodox theology or their own open meetings that they [the Quakers] were arrested and mistreated. It was for disrupting services in what they insisted on calling ‘steeple-houses’ rather than churches; that, or for organising tithe-strikes aimed directly and specifically to undermine the state church." sfn error: no target: CITEREFCoffeyLim2008 (help)
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In the sentence "His birthplace, the Grade II listed Cromwell House, was at that time the site of Huntington Priory, and is commemorated by a plaque." there is a link to a picture of a house. This picture is the wrong house. It is Cromwell's house in Ely, not the house in which he was born, Cromwell House, in Huntingdon. The link should be removed.NormanMcN1913 (talk)09:32, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Done Thank you for noticing. Apparently the House in Huntingdon is now a care home. Happy editingSlomo666 (talk)11:29, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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