Talk:NCSA Mosaic
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Wasn't there a version of Mosaic forLinux calledRedBaron fromRed Hat? I think I've got the RPM on a CD around here someplaceCrusadeonilliteracy 05:53, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Huh? How is that possible? the image doesnt match up with the last releases.
♠ Frankly I think there should be a subsection for each version (i.e., Windows, Mac, Linux, Unix) for historical purposes. People shouldn't think that these were developed simultaneously for all platforms in all cases. In those days it was not PC/Mac-centric like it is now. Software was developed on mainframes and then microcomputers later.--THE FOUNDERS INTENTTALK15:42, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Since the browser was officially calledNCSA Mosaic and is always referred to by that name (on their website, for example), should it be moved there? I'm sure people are far more likely to type in 'NCSA Mosaic' than 'Mosaic (browser)'.
Seems to me that no one has taken action on this. Reason?--THE FOUNDERS INTENTTALK15:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also confused as to why Quarterdeck Mosaic redirects to this page. Quarterdeck was a completely different entity than NCSA. "Quarterdeck Mosaic" should probably redirect to /wiki/Quarterdeck. Side commentary: I remember paying $40 for the Quarterdeck Mosaic Suite in the mid-90s. Imagine if software companies charged people $40 web browsers now.— Precedingunsigned comment added byFsabelhaus (talk •contribs)16:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Spyglass, Inc. licensed the technology and trademarks from NCSA for producing their own web browser but never used any of the NCSA Mosaic source code. Spyglass Mosaic was later licensed by Microsoft, and it was modified and renamed Internet Explorer.
The above comment appear to contradict the following from theNetscape_Communications_Corporation article...
Microsoft released version 1.0 of Internet Explorer (based, ironically, on the NCSA Mosaic code) as a part of the Windows 95 Plus Pack add-on.
Which is it? -- Des Courtney 21:30 24Nov2004
♠ The whole paragraph on Spyglass is really irrelevant and should be the subject of a separate article. This article is about NCSA Mosaic and shouldn't be muddied with discussions about other browsers except maybe a passing mention.--THE FOUNDERS INTENTTALK14:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't Internet Explorer use the Mosiac engine (or did at some point)? Isn't this mentionable? --65.146.19.8922:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I gotta run, but more credit should be given up front toWorldWideWeb, the NeXT computer platform, and Tim Berners-Lee.
Technically, Opera 2.0 (released in 1995) was the first browser for Windows, was it not? And MultiTorg Opera was created in 1994 by the founder of Opera Software, a Windows 3.0 web browser (never released to the public, though I never give up hope that one day a copy will resurface).—Precedingunsigned comment added by4.224.153.162 (talk •contribs)
ABOLUTELY NOT
microsoft was SEVERAL YEARS behind Unix in the 1990's. windows users were instructed to delete microsoft's IE 1.0 browser and run mosaic or netscape, that IE was "experimentally truing to develop". and i live in the area these things were "happening first'— Precedingunsigned comment added by72.219.207.25 (talk)18:44, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This article really needs a feature description. What did the application do? Let's not assume because it was a web browser that that's a sufficient description of its functionality.—The precedingunsigned comment was added byDbarefoot (talk •contribs).
It looks like this has been set up to use subtemplates to maintain version numbers in the infobox. Since Mosaic is frozen and has been for a decade, I'd like to stop using subtemplates (and get rid of the the version increment/decrement links), but I can't figure out how. Maybe someone more experienced with the infobox template can do so?Avram (talk)17:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The should be added to this article.—Precedingunsigned comment added by24.60.66.250 (talk)17:05, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article said "Mosaic's direct descendant on the coder line, via Marc Andreessen, was Netscape Navigator. Netscape Navigator's code descendant is Mozilla Firefox.".
This is pure revisionism, as the code descendant of Netscape is Mozilla, later renamed Mozilla Application Suite, and now maintained as SeaMonkey.
Mozilla Firefox is an interface fork of Mozilla, both using the same framework called Gecko. While it could be argued that Firefox did ultimately descend from Netscape's code, Mozilla was first.BenoitRen (talk)17:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Having issues with this, especially since the protocols listed don't necessarily depend on each other, eg there is no chain, there is an amorphous set of protocols that are constantly improved, forked and repurposed, and on top of that there is no end to the chains that do temporarily form, each day brings an extra link, however small. Sure for a while the web was the pinnacle, but now technologies are being layered on top of it, and HTTP is being pushed into 'middleware', the middle of the protocol stack, eg. AJAX. So there is no "final". If we mean, final in terms of creating the web as it was in 1993, then I don't see why gopher, for example is listed, or why TCP comes before IP. etc....87.194.223.13 (talk)13:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The reference toftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Mosaic/Windows/Archive/MosaicHistory.html yields different release dates (e.g. Nov 11, 1993 for version 1.0) than the article. The reason is that the reference holds only for the Windows versions, not for the XWindows versions. For these[1] is a better reference, hence the article text itself may be correct. But someone should correct the wrong reference.--129.13.186.2 (talk)00:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't we think of explaining what ports were avaible?mabdul12:37, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
starting a list applications based on mosaic:
more?mabdul19:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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As long as the articles on forks of Mosaic (Mosaic-CK andVMS Mosaic) are not of much use, I suggest merging them into a new section of this article (say,Descendants). IMO such merge will both improve this article (demonstrating the lasting impact of Mosaic) and the coverage of descendents, potentially allowing to discuss the differences between the forks. —Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk)12:52, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done in lack of opposition. —Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk)12:06, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]Interesting historical record, same to a client available in January 1993. Of course if someone is not mosaic-x, no support.— Precedingunsigned comment added by201.66.221.90 (talk •contribs)22:20, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Electron9 (talk)23:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure it matters but, I suspect development began in 1990 at the latest (not 1992). I used an early version under X-Windows on a VAXStation in 1990. I certainly got it from the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign.98.197.242.233 (talk)05:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Eric did Mosaic as a school project - and turned it in as such.
I've read the story of Marc Andreessen doing that in the past since the days it was released and never heard of Bina. The citation of Bina given is for 2011 - 30 years later which is highly suspicious.
Eric J. Bina (born October 1964) is the co-creator of Mosaic"
ANDERSEEN WAS SUED BY THE COLLEGE for trying to sell Mosaic. After talks, Netscape was release using same base of source code. the name bina was NOT in the lawsuit is it?
the college did not name two students having been given the same assignment did they ? rather the opposite - if the school thought anderseen got "unfair help" in the computer lab for his project they'd have given him a ZERO. but they did not.— Precedingunsigned comment added by72.219.207.25 (talk)18:50, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Mosaic and Netscape were developed for Unix on unix - and were LATER ported to Microsoft platform.
However colleges were running Unix mostly not microsoft at the time. Ie colleges supported the named protocols: ftp, nntp, gopher. microsoft platforms never did those - and only did ftp in a manner to attack compatibility witih unix (would fail when trying to connect to a unix server, quite intently).
Later, college experimented with installing "public access computer information terminals" (ie in lobby) that ran Netscape on microsoft instead of unix "cheap". Such experiments were know failures at the time - they were frequently "down". Some schools still ran VAX or other odd (unix) variants in the computer labs at the time. Apple Machintosh was more common for non-scientific classrooms that "had funding" however, in those days.
The IMAGE SHOULD BE ... what it had been years ago
the image of Mosaic opening in TWM or Motif, which had a pretty but low res computer art of a mosaic (tesselation). that image is unfamiliar to those who used netscape - since netscape is not allowed to use the name or image (not that i care about any such ownership/dispute as i'm not involved myself)— Precedingunsigned comment added by72.219.207.25 (talk •contribs)19:02, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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In response to the question, “According to whom?,” several inline citations were supplied (replacing template Whom) to underscore the fact that web browser Mosaic played a pivotal role in bringing the Internet to the masses. To say that it popularized said access is probably an understatement.Apachegila (talk)09:09, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the link to IBM hard-drive engineerDavid Thompson. The correct David Thompson doesn't have a Wikipedia article but has hisCV andphoto online, which are both quite different from the previously linked person.Lee Choquette (talk)23:49, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
