Talk:Metropolitan area
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Seetalk:megalopolis for discussion.— Precedingunsigned comment added byDaran (talk •contribs)22:27, 4 October 2003 (UTC)[reply]
TakuyaMarata, could you explain the paragraph you just added? It doesn't seem to make any sense in the context. What is "The area"? Are you claiming that the trends you note are necessary characteristics ofall metro areas? At the very least the writing needs clarification.V 00:33, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
What an absolutely crap article about metropolitan areas. Where are the explanations about the various methodes used around the world etc?
Metro Manilla isn't even a metropolitan area based on commuter statistics, at least get that one right...— Precedingunsigned comment added by84.246.51.145 (talk)14:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
InJapan, there are 7 major Metropolitan Areas (MAs). They areTokyo MA (34.5million),Osaka MA (18.6million),Nagoya MA (8.7million),Fukuoka MA (5.4million), Sapporo MA (2.5million), Sendai MA (2.2million) and Hiroshima MA (2.0million) (the numbers are populations of 1.5% Urban Employment Areas in 2000). Some major individual cities in each MAs are designated by government ordinance as theGovernment Ordinance Cities(GOCs). For examle, Osaka MA includes GOCs ofKyoto,Osaka,Kobe andSakai.
Moved above text from article. It would be better if instead of listing specific metropolitan areas, the criteria for what is included in a metropolitan area in Japan be put in the article instead.Polaron |Talk13:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As documented intalk Sydney the statment "Both Statistical Divisions and Districts are equivalent to metropolitan areas." is disputed.John Dalton09:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Barcelona's Metropolitan Area is 5.150.000 (updated 2006) in 3.925 km2 (1.515 ml2), as is observed in...http://bcnip.blogsome.com/2006/04/22/la-region-metropolitana-de-Barcelona (data 2005)— Precedingunsigned comment added by83.50.148.173 (talk)02:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've noticed that many editors from quite a few countries familiar with the English language have become quite endeared with the term "metropolitan area", but in many cases the term cannot apply, as it is neither an official translation for the existing demographic/administrative regions of those countries, nor a term used there. The "Japan" clarification mentioned above is a good example of this. France is yet another example, as, although neither its government nor itsINSEE statistical bureau has ever used this term as anofficial translation, a few insist on imposing it on relevant articles here as though it were one.
In fact, the confusion grows further when the official translation for the areas described is another term altogether: as indicated above, what this article insists is the French equivalent of a "metropolitan area" is in reality translated as "urban area", so it should not even be mentioned in this article. In short, it seems that the application of the term in many cases here stems from opinion, mistranslation, an effort to "group" a schema between all countries for the sake of a single demographics study, or perhaps endearment for foreign terms, but indicating it as a "translation" in many cases is simply not fact.
Yet "metropolitan area" can be used as adescriptive term, but where it is used I think it should be made clear that it is used as such; in other words, it should be clear that it is a term included as a description for better understanding, but not as an official term or officially translation when it is nothing of the kind.
I think it would be useful for this reference to clarify this difference somewhere in the article, and gate the same to all concerned articles. I have already tried to do the same where France is concerned.THEPROMENADER21:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The external link for metrofyi.com is more of an advertisement for that website in that many major metro areas are excluded and some listed are clearly incorrect. At the very least, it should be noted as a partial list. Perhaps excluded in that it contains more advertising about places to go than data on the area.
Also, the abbreviation "MSA" should be included in the commonly used abbreviations used for this topic due to the fact that it covers standard conventional references used in most all industries.—Precedingunsigned comment added by12.153.111.254 (talk)15:44, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Are Surat, Ahmedabad and Pune included in the list of Metropolitan cities in India? There are no proper citations in the article to support this. I hope someone will provide citations failing which the cities will have to be deleted from the list. Thanks.Swaroop (talk)16:49, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
According to the German Wikipedia[1], the Metropolitan area had been officially defined in 1995 as the Rhine-Ruhr (GermanRhein-Ruhr) Metropolitan area in 1995, officially having 10,168,321 inhabitants on 30 June 2008, and thus forming the largest metropolitan area in the EU. According to the German Wikipedia (see link), the official definition of the "European Metropol Region Rhine-Ruhr" is contained in North Rhine-Westphalian development laws and - to be exact - stems from the "Development Plan of the State of North Rhine-Westphalia (part A), where it was defined in terms of space, and had been treated as a subject matter in form of verbalized 'goals' in section B.I.2." (in German:Landesplanungsrechtlich wird die Europäische Metropolregion Rhein-Ruhr im Landesentwicklungsplan Nordrhein-Westfalen (Teil A) räumlich bestimmt und sachlich in Form von textlich formulierten "Zielen" unter dem Abschnitt B.I.2. behandelt.) It might be of some importance to know that matters of regional development, to a large part, fall into the competencies of the GermanLänder (States, literally: "countries").
Perhaps someone would like to consider whether the reference to the Ruhr area alone should be changed to a reference to the larger Rhine-Ruhr area. --85.179.67.148 (talk)22:13, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And it is probably more trouble than it is worth to try to fix it, as the boosters will always come back for another go. What we need as permanent warning tag saying "This concept should not be taken seriously".Wimstead (talk)16:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"according to theFar Eastern Economic Review, Asia alone will have at least 10hypercities"
I'm not sure why "hypercities" link to Sky city 1000 of if "hypercity" even a real term. Someone who knows what he's doing please edit114.75.1.18 (talk)15:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ive changed Torontos population back to its actual population of just ocer 2 million, the person who had it at 8.1 million might be a little to patriotic or just stupid lol—Precedingunsigned comment added byGargabook (talk •contribs)02:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is intimately related but I believe that a LMA should have it's own article. --C9900 (talk)12:38, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article contains this sentence:
" However the most ambitious metropolitan area population figures are often better seen as the population of a "metropolitan region" than of a "city".[citation needed]"
And someone thinks acitation is needed for such a vague statement that it is useless to anyone trying to understand the idea of a "metropolitan area" ???
What this sentence needs is not a citation but adeletion. Because sentences are supposed to convey information, but this one doesn't.Daqu (talk)16:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Megalopolis: why such a focus on Canada?
How high is it for Mexico, for South Africa, for North Korea?— Precedingunsigned comment added byAlphachap (talk •contribs)14:36, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
