Talk:Little Green Footballs
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My friends consider me a bleeding-heart lefty and even I'm more conservative on most things than Charles. The people saying he started out "right wing" before turning liberal seem to be making a big mistake: Being caught up in the post-9/11 anti-Islam fervor had nothing to do with "right wing". He was merely a left-winger caughter up in the post-9/11 anti-Islam fervor. You could argue that he was once "mildly conservative" on a handful of issues but "right wing"? That's the opening line of the entire article and it's linked to one single opinion column using it as an umbrella term.— Precedingunsigned comment added by4.246.164.189 (talk)01:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
While the name may have originated with a Muppets-driven Japanese song, Kermit's inspiration undoubtedly derives from a form of soft green vitamin-pill our mother gave us in the 50's and 60's, which we promptly dubbed exactly 'Little Green Footballs', as in "Here come the little green footballs.", and a web-search shows we were not alone. A D-supplement that apparently survives to this day which some people still call 'little green footballs', e.g.:
JohndanR (talk)16:30, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sometime during 2007 the blog switched from promoting islamphobia to making a break with that movement. Perhaps that should be mentioned in the article as it's a quite dramatic change. I think it might have been somewhere aroundthis. //Liftarn (talk)
Was there a documentary that had LGF as a center piece in the drumbeat to war?— Precedingunsigned comment added by108.51.236.225 (talk)06:24, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, I used to read LGF since about 2001. Certainly since before the September 11 attacks. The article, currently, reads as though LGF started out as a right-wing/conservative site. Actually, it started out as a personal blog, with stuff about computing, music and with mildly LEFT wing viewpoints (Johnson posted criticisms of George W Bush, referring to him as/alluding to then-President Bush's stupidity. In fact, he was even critical of Bush in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, and, if I remember accurately, only altered his views (to the right) slowly, from about mid 2002, up until about the time of the start of the Iraq War, and the events and media coverage leading up to that (2003).
I seem to remember, vaguely, that this Wikipedia page actually did have information in an older version, about how Charles started the blog with left wing views, then changed (or as Johnson himself put it, quoting some other figure whose name now escapes me, "I was a liberal who was mugged by history" (or something like that)).
Forgive my vague recollections, this was some time ago now.
But does anybody think that it might be worth including that history ? As for sources, I think there were some older newspaper articles and perhaps even an interview on Fox News, where Charles Johnson makes reference to the change (from left, critical of George W Bush, to right wing).
I think it is a worthwhile edit, because, in its current form the article implies the website started as a right wing blog, which shifted to the centre or the left. When the truth is, it started out as mildly left wing (probably, 2/3rds of the content was personal stuff, about cycling, about web design, computers, music) and 1/3rd was about politics (little posts, brief posts, critical of Bush, and the Bush administration).
It was one of the most viewed political blogs in the US, at its peak, and certainly has a storied and interesting past.
Anyway, not being a registered editor, and not having much experience editing Wikipedia, I thought it would be prudent to ask others what they think. If I can source some of the articles and interviews I mentioned (where Johnson, and journalists in newspaper articles about LGF, describe the blog as starting out as a personal blog, with slightly left wing/anti Bush views) - can I then make some edits to the page to reflect that history ?
Internet history has always been fascinating to me, or the history of certain websites anyway. I am not a political person funnily enough, I can claim no advanced knowledge or even much interest in politics, so I might not be the person for the job. But I certainly did read his blog, for many years, and was even a commenter there. I enjoyed some of the discussion in the non political threads (the Overnight threads), which were frequent.
OK, thanks for reading. If people do agree with my suggestions, I would only be talking about a brief, say, 1 paragraph edit, with words to the effect of:"Johnson started the site in 2000 [or whatever year], and blogged about his daily activities: cycling, music, and information technology. He would occaissionally include posts critical of the Bush administration, and of George W Bush personally. [Here I'd include some Wayback Machine/Archived links to old posts where Johnson called Bush stupid or what not, as he often did].After the 9/11 attacks, Johnson's views began to change, and so did the orientation of the blog: the content became more frequently political, and the posts themselves took on an increasingly conservative tone. By March of 2003, Johnson was openly supportive of the Iraq War, Israeli foreign policy, and routinely ridiculed specific Democrats, liberals and left-wing politicians. At this time and in the subsequent months, LGF became one of the most viewed right-wing blogs on the Internet."
[Then this would lead into the current page].
Please let me know what you think, if you care to !Cheers and all the bestPete— Precedingunsigned comment added by2001:44B8:3100:4004:AD88:88AB:91BB:48BA (talk)14:54, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
