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This was added (inappropriately, in my view) to the articleÜbermensch: it doesn't shed much light on the Nietzchean concept. It lacks a date and any publication information. If someone can fill that out, it probably belongs here and maybe atSuperman. "More recently,Kim Newman's short storyÜbermensch deliberately combined the two words with analternative history in which Superman was brought up in Germany and eventually imprisoned as a Nazi." --Jmabel |Talk04:27, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"In the same year, as "Jack Yeovil", he began contributing to a series of novels published by Games Workshop, set in the world of their Warhammer wargaming and role-playing games."

It's only a partial definition. Under Jack Yeovil alias, he's responsible for books "Drachenfels, "Genevieve Undead", "Beasts in Velvet" and "Silver Nails", plus a short story "The Ibby The Fish Factor" that was included in a recently (early 2005) published compilation "The Vampire Genevieve".

In an introductory text he wrote, he implies some sort of connection between a Genevieve character in Anno Dracula and the Genevieve character he introduced into the Warhammer universum.

KN has stated (IIRC, inSeven Stars) that they are alternate-universe versions of the same basic character; a third version of Genevieve appears inSeven Stars after a cameo in 'The Big Fish'. IIRC, the different Genevieves have slightly different middle names, but I'm not quite enough of a trainspotter to remember them all :-) --Calair01:46, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect that the thing about them having different middle names is mostly a joke; none of the stories in which a Genevieve appears ever mentions what her middle nameis. (Inthis interview he says that it's so that he can prove that they're different characters in the unlikely event of Games Workshop ever making a fuss, but I get the feeling he had his tongue in his cheek when he said it.) --Paul A05:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The prologue ofDrachenfels (chapter II, p. 8 my copy) names her as 'Genevieve Sandrine du Pointe du Lac Dieudonné'.

Seven Stars ('Seven Stars', episode 7, p. 360 my copy) names her as 'Geneviève Sandrine Ysolde Dieudonné'. The note at the end of the book indicates that this version had previously appeared only in 'The Big Fish'.

InAnno Dracula (chapter 9, 'A Carpathian Quartet'), she names herself as 'Geneviève Sandrine de l'Isle Dieudonné'. So, yes, there really are three different versions of her name for the three different continuities. (Note also that the GW version is 'Genevieve' with no accent, and the other two are Genevièves.)--Calair10:23, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And while I'm trainspotting, the note at the beginning of 'The Vampire Genevieve' explains the reason the GW Genevieve doesn't have an accent in her first name: "word-processing/printing techniques were so primitive back then that putting in accents was a major pain and used only on special occasions, like when listing her last name..." --Calair03:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just occured to me: "Du Lac" was Lancelot's surname. "Isolde" is the name of at least two significant characters in Arthurian myth. "De l'Isle" was the epithet of a really obscure knight (Melias), which was the point I decided I was reading too much into this.Daibhid C18:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem odd, now that you point it out, but Kim Newman's official bibliography really does say thatNightmare Movies: A critical history of the horror film, 1968-88 was first published in 1985. (Maybe the first edition didn't have the subtitle?) --Paul A03:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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