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The content ofIbn Arabi and theoretical mysticism wasmerged intoIbn Arabi on 7 November 2024. The former page'shistory now serves toprovide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see itstalk page.
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Real name and nickname

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Here the names of Ibn 'Arabi

  • Real name or personal name: Muhammad
  • Nickname: Ibn 'Arabi
  • Titular name: Muhyiddin or Muhyi al-din
  • Other titular name but only known after Ibn 'Arabi passed away: Syekh Al-Akbar (The Great Teacher)
  • Father of (kunya): Abū ‘Abdu-Allāh
  • nasab/patronym: ibn ‘Alī ibn Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn ‘Abdullāh
  • nisba/place and geo origin: ibn al-‘Arabī al-Tā’ī al-Hātimī al-Andalusī
  • Fullname with titular + kunya + personal name + nasab + nisba: Muhyīddīn Abū ‘Abdullāh Muhammad ibn ‘Alī ibn Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn ‘Abdullāh ibn a-‘Arabī al-Tā’ī al-Hātimī al-Andalusī

Lokamaya (talk)11:58, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This addition, "al-Mursī al-Dimashqī", only known in certain community, not common. Mursi is a city in Andalusia where he was born (so al-Andalusi was enough), and Damascus is a city where he spent the rest of his life and a place where he is buried. So no need to add Mursi and Damascus to his fullname.
Lokamaya (talk)12:11, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The reality is that a 'full name' in Arabic can go on for as long as one likes, depending on how many generations back the patronymic recollection is continued. For practicality's sake, a line needs to be drawn somewhere, and the existing version already seemed a bit long. I've trimmed it to the version that Chittick notes Ibn Arabi actually signed his books with, which was "Abū ʻAbd Allāh Muḥammad ibn al-ʻArabī al-Ṭāʼī al-Ḥātimī", which is as close as are going to get to an 'official' version, and it is clearly where the man himself drew the line for practicality's sake.Iskandar323 (talk)13:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Change heading/name to proper noun

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The correct spelling in Arabic is ابن العربي ibn al-‘Arabī (See: Ash-Sha’ranī, Tabaqāt al-Kubrā, 1/227). How can we change? The current spelling for accurately represent the addition of “al” in the article title while preserving older links that direct here without the “al”?204.197.177.17 (talk)20:57, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge fromIbn Arabi and theoretical mysticism

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The following discussion is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Tomerge [[Ibn Arabi and theoretical mysticism]] into this article, on the grounds of context and overlap.Klbrain (talk)19:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And, the phrase "thweortecial mysticism' lasckswp:notabilityFatalSubjectivities (talk)07:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

noDisagree As mentioned at the lead of the article: "...refers to aschool of theoretical mystical thought which was developed and explored by Ibn Arabi. Thisthought movement also could be considered as the continuation of Islamic philosophy." Accordingly, this school can be considered as one of the various schools of Islamic thought, such as:Ash'arism,Maturidism,Rifa'iyya,Qadiriyya,Naqshbandiya, etc. Maybe the title should be changed to "Islamic theoretical mysticism" or simply "Theoretical mysticism"?--TheEagle107 (talk)02:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ibn Arabi and theoretical mysticism has Great overlap and might beWP:REDUNDANT.FatalSubjectivities (talk)13:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It looks like acontent fork.MartinPoulter (talk)15:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge as proposed. While there might exist enough content in reliable sources to support a page onTheoretical mysticism, the currentIbn Arabi and theoretical mysticism isn't it. Rather, there is heavy overlap withIbn Arabi and soIbn Arabi and theoretical mysticism is thus best merged to here.Klbrain (talk)15:20, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
  checkYMerge completedKlbrain (talk)19:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typo ?

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In the short description, it is written "while 400 are still extant" I decided to be bold and assumed "extant" just meant "existent"but with a typo but I might be wrong. Please tell me why if you revert the page.HalikhSovar78 (talk)16:33, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not Maliki

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There are no sources stating ibn Arabi was Maliki, the sources in this article describe him as being either hanbali or zahiri, and that he denied having been zahiri, NONE describe him as Maliki, which is completely unsourced, and should be reverted.2003:C0:6F3E:C1CA:AC79:51E5:9607:ACD7 (talk)20:11, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This topic is obviously gonna get swept under the rug2003:C0:6F3E:C1CA:AC79:51E5:9607:ACD7 (talk)11:35, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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