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Requested move 19 June 2015

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The result of the move request was:Not movedMike Cline (talk)12:59, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• IPad (3rd generation) →The new iPadThe new iPad
• iPad (4th generation) →iPad with Retina displayiPad with Retina display

–WP:NATURAL is preferred over parenthetical disambiguation.Sovereign Sentinel (talk)09:58, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. "WP:NATURAL is preferred over parenthetical disambiguation." It usually is but the proposed title can not be stable, as soon as the next generation is released it's redundant and will need to be renamed. Parenthetical disambiguation works well for cases like this, seeHistory of video game consoles (eighth generation).Zarcadia (talk)17:36, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• SupportiPad 3 andiPad 4, respectfully. If we want to invokeWP:NATURAL, this is the way to do it. "The new iPad" would be a confusing name to use as an article title, as people might assume that's the newest one. We already haveiPad 2 at this title and it does seem to be theWP:COMMONNAME to differentiate the different generations. --Tavix^(talk)18:21, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Since no one paid any attention to my suggestion, I'm going to make it clear that Ioppose the original proposal as well. --Tavix^(talk)02:55, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong oppose "The new iPad" is senseless. It isn't thenew iPad either. Further, iPad 4 isn't the only iPad with a Retina display, so both are extremely ambiguous. AndWP:ADVERT stop advertising with Apple advertising lines --70.51.203.69 (talk)04:35, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose as it'll just confuse everyone .... Next year they'll launch another and then it won't be new or recent ... 4 Gen is better IMHO–Davey2010^Talk22:52, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I also apologize for the previous comment - I didn't actually realize it was called "The New Ipad" ... Just assumed OP decided he liked this name better so sorry OP. –Davey2010^Talk22:58, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose - Not the common name. I would be supportive of moving the titles to ordinal numbers perWP:ORDINAL.Mark Schierbecker (talk)19:37, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong oppose. The title "The new iPad", while it was used in marketingat the time, does not qualify underWP:NATURAL because the common name "iPad 3" also avoids parenthetical disambiguation. In addition, a leading "The" makes little to no sense in this case.ONR(talk)02:39, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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