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Tagging this article for deletion goes against previous precedent as it is a fight song of a major American university. If you are going to add a deletion tag to this page due to non-notability, please add one equivalently to all the pages listed in the following two categories or don't add one at all:
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Panther Song

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What is the source of the changes in current lyrics used in the Panther song? The song lyrics did match those printed in the Pitt News as cited. Is there a reasonable source for the changes made to the current lyrics?CrazyPaco (talk)03:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

answered: see [[User talk:Tjtrumpet2323#Info on Pitt musicCrazyPaco (talk)22:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics

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WP:NOTLYRICS does not prevent or forbid the inclusion of lyrics in this article.

To quote NOTLYRICS (bold mine for emphasis of my point):

For songs in the public domain the article should not consistsolely of the lyrics (Wikisource should be used for such articles instead), but should instead provide information about authorship, date of publication, social impact, and so on. Quotations from an out-of-copyright song should be kept to a reasonable lengthrelative to the rest of the article, and used tofacilitate discussion, or to illustrate the style; the full text can be put on Wikisource and linked to from the article....SeeWikipedia:Do not include the full text of lengthy primary sources for full discussion.

WP:NPS goes on to further state

If out of copyright, shorter texts - such as short speeches (the Gettysburg Address), short poems ("Ozymandias"), and short songs (most national anthems) - are usually included in their article.

For instance,The Star-Spangled Banner andO Canada includes full lyrics, while the cited examples of the hymnChrist the Lord Is Risen Today and poemGunga Din do not.

Therefore, the lyrics have been restored to this article because: 1) The article "provide[s] information about authorship, date of publication, social impact, and so on". 2) The lyrics are used to "facilitate discussion, or to illustrate the style" such as the discussion as to their meaning, use, and origin (e.g. "alleghenee, genec, genac, genac" and "Uni") as well compared for changes over time. With their removal, the accompanying text of that discussion is rendered impotent. and 3) The lyrics are sufficiently short per examples of the national anthems. With that said, I do note the need to cull appearance of repetitiveness of the lyrics in modern vs traditional and perhaps add lyrics to Wikisource.CrazyPaco (talk)02:35, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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