Talk:Great crested grebe
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It would be nice to see a real photograph of a Great Crested Grebe.Snowman08:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Compared to the previous two entries, the one on great crested grebe has received significantly less attention. It is rated as start-class project on the quality scale and low-importance on the importance scale. Wikipedia states that it sets the importance scale to attempt to gauge the popularity of a particular topic. Those that are deemed of lower popular notability tend to be updated slowly with limited information. Therefore, the entry on great crested grebe requires editing in several areas. Generally, the structure still follows the common format, only that the content is much less detailed or elaborated. From my focus on sexual selection, I would at least add the fact that both female and male grebes have head-feather ornaments which is likely to have evolved through mutual mate choice. I would also add a possible explanation for this mutual mate selection. This could be that as monogamous bird, both females and males invest significant amount of parental care so it pays for both to choose high-quality mates (textbook 202). Other things like sexual competition, sexual conflict, as well as other behaviors such as cooperation, family conflicts and communication can also be added upon observation and research.Tianyi Cai (Talk)12:33, 26 September, 2012 (UTC)
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The behavior section is lacking the items the press seems to find most notable:
"a bird that grunts, pukes and has a highly unusual repertoire of mating rituals" -https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/15/puteketeke-new-zealand-bird-of-the-century-winner-nz-john-oliver-campaign
"The birds are known to eat their own feathers to trigger their gag reflex so they can vomit up parasites."https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/puking-bird-wins-new-zealands-bird-of-the-century-contest-after-john-oliver-campaign-180983273/
"Australasian crested grebe, better known as the pūteketeke or the 'puking' bird"-https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/11/15/exp-new-zealand-bird-of-the-century-john-oliver-puteketeke-rdr-111503aseg2-cnni-world.cnn
"The species boasts a bizarre mating ritual, carries around its young on its back in the water and has been known to eat its own feathers before vomiting them back up."https://www.npr.org/2023/11/15/1213228757/john-oliver-new-zealand-bird-century-contest-puteketeke
"pūteketeke (pronounced pooh-techie-techie) and the result led to record-breaking vote totals and a victory for the bird – known for its propensity to eat its own feathers then puke them up after eating fish – over the country's official bird, the kiwi."https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/11/15/john-oliver-bird-of-the-century-pteketeke/71594583007/
Can someone who knows how to edit Wikipedia correctly update?157.98.120.194 (talk)14:37, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what wikipedia rules apply to the naming of bird articles, but seeing as pūteketeke is the name given to this bird by the people who have traditionally lived in its native range, I would think that some consideration should be given to that appellation. Furthermore, this bird has been catapulted to popularity by John Oliver, who exclusively refers to it as such, and so I think that it's likely supported by contemporary sources that this is now the common name of the bird.
I haven't yet begun an in-depth look into how all of the various contemporary sources are referring to the bird, so I'm holding off on initiating a formal move request, but I'd like to gauge the general opinion here to see whether or not such a move might be favored. What do y'all think?Waidawut (talk)03:17, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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