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No merging of article(s) at this time per split discussion. Both proponents and opponents of the merge make good points, and the articlesSIZE issues are thoroughly discussed here, but size is not the only issue.WEIGHT should also be a consideration in this proposal. Combining these articles would make an article with almost half of it devoted to just one aspect of the game itself; namely, its development. Normally a fan of not splitting articles if at all possible, I don't see merging as a solution here, without the gutting of the development article, perSUMMARY. This could be done (possibly at the cost of removing some reliably sourced information from that article), and I personally would not object to the merging at that point. That may be considered in the future, but for now, the articles should remain separate. Non-Administrative closure--GenQuest"scribble"14:56, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply] The following discussion is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
There doesn't really appear to be a reason why this development article, with a massiveWP:OVERLAP, needs to be separate from the article on the main game. To be sure, I am a fan of FEZ, but this feels like overkill when a fairly long and detailed development and design section already exists.ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ)12:52, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The development itself, wrapped in the celebrity of its developer, is covered inextreme length by reliable, independent sources[1][2][3] and was the primary subject ofan ensemble documentary. The split article contains detail/depth that would be overkill to cover in the main (featured) article, which already has the core information readers would need to know about the subject. The split article exists to expand on that with detail befitting an independently notable sub-subject.czar13:04, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per CZAR. Spy-cicle💥 Talk?22:35, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment
The game's page is about 50k of prose, the development page is about 30k. Give about 5k of summary of the development in the game's page, such that the merged page would be about 75k of prose. That's just at a point forWP:SIZE where splitting is suggested, but not "required". I would lean tokeep based on this. See notes below, I was using the wrong measurement. --Masem (t)00:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply] - Merge. To be honest, I'm not seeing much in the development article that can't be covered here. This article's only 21kB of readable prose, and Development ofFez is only 14kB. Together, that'd be 35kB, hardly large enough to justify a split—and it'd probably be smaller, once repeated text is accounted for. Wediscussed the "Development of" articles at MOS:VG fairly recently and there was general agreement that it should only be done in extraordinary circumstances. This doesn't strike me as one of those.JOEBRO6420:36, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I got much higher numbers on prose size. Which tool are you using to count?Masem (t)21:28, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:Prosesize reports those numbers as "readable prose size".IceWelder [✉]21:59, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Got it, I was using like the second number in the list, not that lower one. I would have to agree then that the merged page would not be a SIZE problem on that.Masem (t)22:02, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge, per Joebro64. I'm also not seeing much in the Development of Fez article that can't be included here or isn't already included here. Additional comment: If this article is merged, then the Fez good topic will cease to exist. Not that that matters, but it's something to note.NegativeMP121:52, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge. Having read through the article, it would not be too large to be merged intoFez, perSUMMARY as stated above. Nobody expects theUnexpectedSmoreInquisition (talk)!13:02, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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