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On 9 April 2025, it was proposed that this article bemoved fromFeldenkrais Method toFeldenkrais method. The result ofthe discussion wasmoved.
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Requested move 9 April 2025

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The following is a closed discussion of arequested move.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider amove reviewafter discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was:moved.(non-admin closure)TarnishedPathtalk07:45, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Feldenkrais MethodFeldenkrais method – Change "Method" to lower case, perMOS:AT. The rationale here is essentially the same as at the recent consensus atTalk:Alexander technique#Requested move 31 March 2025, which please see. Basically, we should not be deviating from Wikipedia's standard format of sentence case, simply because an alt-med topic has adopted a capitalized name as a way of puffing up their significance. --Tryptofish (talk)20:22, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: listed atWP:FTN:[1]. --Tryptofish (talk)20:26, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So you only list it on one WikiProject, the Fringe Theory group? Thumb on scale much?Randy Kryn (talk)10:04, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a WikiProject, but rather a noticeboard, my notice was neutrally worded, and the page here is indeed a fringe theory. Please feel free to notify other appropriate noticeboards, with a note about it here. --Tryptofish (talk)20:57, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support perMOS:MVT which says "Doctrines, ideologies, philosophies, theologies, theories, movements,methods, processes, systems or schools of thought and practice, and fields of academic study or professional practice are not capitalized, unless the name derives from a proper name." and perbook n-gram stats that show lowercasemethod is still very common even after WP spurred a bit of a trend toward capping it.Dicklyon (talk)05:24, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose,this has been a proper name for five decades with 75% uppercasing in sources. Passes mvt for proper name status. The Feldenkrais Method is a well-known body work technique, and lowercased it would be changing the proper name to something almost unrecognizable given its status.Randy Kryn (talk)10:02, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    If you understood n-grams better you'd be able to look at uses in sentences, and find that it'sstill lowercase about half the time, in spite of WP having at uppercase for a long time.Dicklyon (talk)00:19, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a proper name, and this has been since its inception. Have you checked the n-grams on 'Wikipedia'? Proper names are proper names, no matter what percentage-of-n-grams.Randy Kryn (talk)09:59, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Your argument, as well as my own, are quite similar to what they were atTalk:Alexander technique#Requested move 31 March 2025. It was pointed out there, that the assessment of whether it actuallyis a proper name should not rest exclusively on the page subject's own usage, but also take into account how critics of the page subject characterize it (and the consensus at the other page was that we should not treat it as a proper name, to that extent). It was also pointed out that the n-gram/search hits analysis can count sources that only capitalize the word in book or chapter titles as if they capitalize it all the time. And given that you said that the proposed move would make it "something almost unrecognizable", I feel the need to say that the Wikipedia search box is case-insensitive, so a reader's ability to find what they are looking for would be unaffected. --Tryptofish (talk)22:06, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. To comply properly with the MOS.Bon courage (talk)10:06, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support PerWP:NCCAPS:For multiword page titles, one should leave the second and subsequent words in lowercase unless the title phrase is a proper name that would always occur capitalized, even mid-sentence. A raw ngram search includes expected use of title case such as headings and titles of works used as references. Ngrams can be contexturalised to better capture the proportion of usage in prose (eghere), which shows caps running at about 50% or less in prose. Even the raw data at 75% caps is far from always capped per NCCAPS. We would also lowercase this perMOS:SCIMATH, a specific exception to the general advice atMOS:CAPS.This is not a true proper name but a descriptive name (ie a method of treatment developed by Moshé Feldenkrais) that might sometimes be capped for emphasis, distinction or importance (ie aterm of art) but we don't do that perMOS:SIGNIFCAPS.Cinderella157 (talk)09:28, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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