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Q1:Can I write a message to Elon Musk here? (No.)
A1: No. The "Talk:Elon Musk" page is not for writing messages to Musk. It is only for discussing changes to the Wikipedia article about him. Writing a message to Musk here is pointless and disruptive, and such messages will be removed as an improper use of the page.
Q2:Can you update the article to call Musk a "business magnet"? (No.)
A2: No. Musk once suggested in an interview that his Wikipedia article be changed to describe him as a "business magnet" rather than a magnate (the article previously used this term). The tone of that interview was not very serious; he also claimed to be analien.[1] Wikipedia doesn't have to do what Musk says, and this request has been made and declined dozens of times already.New requests may be removed without a response so that other discussions are not disrupted.
Q3: Should Musk be identified as South African in the opening sentence?
A3: Musk is a US citizen (since 2002) born and raised in South Africa, and also acquired Canadian citizenship via his mother. Including these nationalities in the opening sentence in a balanced way would be complex, and the consensus is that they should instead be explained later in the lead.
Q4: Can you change "Tesla CEO" to "Tesla Technoking"?
A4: No, because he is still CEO according to company records and that is a common corporate title that readers will understand, unlike "Technoking". The goal of the article is to inform people, which would be hindered by raising a confusing technicality.
Q5: Should the mention of Errol Musk having an interest in an emerald mine be removed in view of Elon's denials?
A5: While Elon today vehemently disputes any history with an emerald mine, he formerly accepted and even confirmed it. Specifically, a 2014 report originally printed in the San JoseMercury News (and cited in the article) stated that Errol Musk had "a stake in" a mine. Elon affirmed his father's mine involvement in an interview with Jim Clash, a career interviewer of public figures, that was published byForbes and withdrawn without explanation a few months later. Elon biographer Ashlee Vance likewise confirmed Errol's mining interest, with Elon's objections but not denials, in a 2020 interview report with Elon. Errol has stated that he received hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of emeralds from his dealings.
Q6: Should "Bachelor of Arts in Physics" be "Bachelor of Science" instead?
A6: No. Although it may seem counterintuitive, "Bachelor of Arts" is awarded for all undergraduate degrees at the College of Arts and Sciences at the University of Pennsylvania. His economics degree however is from the Wharton School which does award a "Bachelor of Science" degree.
Q7: Should the article acknowledge doubts about Musk's academic record?
A7: Wikipedia policy onbiographies of living persons requires that negative information about a person must be attributed to reliable published sources, and excludes both self-published sources (e.g. Twitter threads) and court trial records. The article states that sources disagree about when Musk obtained bachelor degrees, and that he did not attend Stanford for any significant amount of time. Any doubts beyond this require appropriate sources.
Q8: Why doesn't this article describe Musk as an engineer?
A8: Musk is chief engineer of SpaceX, a title that applies within the company and that the press regularly mentions. He is not aprofessional engineer, a distinction within engineering that carries certain legal privileges in the United States, nor has he completed an engineering training program, nor has he ever been hired as an engineer. The article therefore does not include any of these claims. It does note that, from time to time, Musk has made initial product proposals at his companies that his trained engineers then research and develop. He does holdIEEE Honorary Membership.
Q9: Why doesn't the article identify Musk as co-founder of PayPal?
A9: Because that could mislead readers that Musk was involved in the creation of the PayPal service and brand, when he was not. Instead, as the article states, he co-founded a company (X.com Corporation) that acquired the company that had developed PayPal (Confinity Inc.) and then renamed itself as PayPal, Inc.
Q10: Why does this page include criticism of Musk's actions and stances?
A10: Musk is criticized/praised a lot in many reliable sources, and as such we need to talk about these criticisms and praise. To quote fromWikipedia's policy on a neutral point of view, articles must represent "fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic."
Q11: Why doesn't this page call Musk African American?
A11:African Americans are an ethnic group of Americans with total or partial ancestry from any of the Black racial groups of Africa. Reliable sources do not use this term to describe Musk.
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  1. ^"Joe Rogan Experience #1169 - Elon Musk".The Joe Rogan Experience. September 6, 2018. Event occurs at 9:53. RetrievedOctober 2, 2020 – viaYouTube.
ConsensusThere isconsensus to describe Musk asa supporter of far-right political partiesper RfC and to include that he received widespread criticism for what some perceived asa Nazi salute,per RfC.
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Did You Know Afact from this article appeared on Wikipedia'sMain Page in the"Did you know?" column onJune 15, 2021.
The text of the entry was:Did you know ... thatElon Musk lost $16.3 billion in a single day, the largest in the history of theBloomberg Billionaires Index?
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(Top)7,5227,522471471
Early life15,29726,633431795
Education11,33611,336364364
Business career5982,57402,048
Zip23,8403,840199199
X.com and PayPal4,5714,571197197
SpaceX11,03621,191345492
Starlink10,15510,155147147
Tesla12,08218,579312497
SolarCity and Tesla Energy6,4976,497185185
Neuralink5,8105,810209209
The Boring Company5,2225,222157157
X Corp.23,30223,302297297
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Hyperloop2,7102,7108686
OpenAI and xAI4,2434,243101101
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Grokipedia2,9142,914115115
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Department of Government Efficiency16,07016,070419419
Feud with Donald Trump3,4723,472131131
Views30,98740,237287461
International relations9,2509,250174174
Legal affairs15,39715,397368368
Personal life17,61150,9284911,567
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Involvement with Jeffrey Epstein8,1828,182428428
Wealth7512300
Musk Foundation484800
Public image5,86414,179173340
Accolades8,3158,315167167
Notes262600
References303000
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Elon Musk in popular culture was nominated fordeletion.The discussion was closed on14 May 2022 with a consensus tomerge. Its contents weremerged intoElon Musk. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please seeits history; for its talk page, seehere.
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GA Reassessment

Elon Musk

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Article(edit |visual edit |history) ·Article talk(edit |history) ·WatchWatch article reassessment pageMost recent review
Result: Strong consensus for expedited delisting.~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk)15:52, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prior issues were raised by editors atTalk:Elon Musk/Archive 22#Good Article Concerns, though no action was taken to follow up on them. The largest issues in this article relate to stability and citations. On stability, article content has changed significantly week after week and it can no longer be assumed that there is a consistent level of quality, in addition to the various disputes that have arisen in the last six months since Musk has become involved with the U.S. federal government. As far as citations, a non-negligible amount of work would have to go into improving them, namely in the "Politics" section. TheCiteHighlighter script may be useful here.elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him)03:11, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

InformationNote: Please noteWP:GAR:"Instability in itself is not a reason to delist an article."~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk)12:03, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support delisting The article has undergone over 5,000 edits since its reassessment in November 2022. To say that the article has changed significantly since then would be an understatement. This article suffers from neutrality issues (namely UNDUE WEIGHT/BLPGOSSIP problems) and poor sourcing.Some1 (talk)11:44, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support delisting. This article has a few maintenance tags throughout, including for dated statements, Sfn no-target errors and page numbers. As Some1 mentioned, its neutrality is dubious and the tone is often gossipy. Many of the cited sources arenews reports without any enduring notability. On stability, the article's content continues to significantly fluctuate from day to day, as the subject is often in the news;of the past 500 edits, 50 have been reverted. Bringing it back to meeting GA criteria will obviously require a huge amount of work, and will be subject to constant scrutiny, so long as the subject continues making headlines. --Grnrchst (talk)14:58, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Rollinginhisgrave,QRep2020,Kowal2701,Czarking0,JamieBrown2011,JacktheBrown,HAL333,CommunityNotesContributor, andRosbif73: Courtesy ping to participants in the above mentioned talk page discussion. --Grnrchst (talk)15:00, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support delisting I think going through all the criteria for this is not going to be a productive use of people's time. If this was to go to GAN today (or nearly any day of the past 6 months) it would require significant work to pass. I commend the effort of the many people who have put time and patience into this article. If some them have good arguments for why this should stay listed I am certainly open to changing my mind; however, at this time I think keeping this as a GA is not in the best interest of the GA brand, the readers, the project, or even the article itself.
Czarking0 (talk)15:54, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support delisting, despite getting this page down from14.6K words to 5.8K, and it now being back at 7k words, there's still a lot I don't believe meets GA criteria, namely as suggested enough of the citations. I did my best trimming tosummary style, but I still think there are likely undue weight issues. Fundamentally it's nothing like the original GA and would require full check to get it there. Probably the article itself should settle down before even considering nomination also, given the content disputes etc.CNC (talk)17:39, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Elon Musk is in the Epstein files.

In January 2026, Musk and along with many others were named in theEpstein Files.Yehoshua667 (talk)13:49, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Then let's see some suggested text?Slatersteven (talk)15:25, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It should be included on this page.Yehoshua667 (talk)18:22, 31 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to get in a continued edit war (in the recent history) withPennine_rambler, but I'll bring it here for your views. In my opinion, I made this more detailed andneutral point of view version of the Epstein relationship (below, proper refs in the edit history). They also keep putting their version under the "Relationships and Children" subheading and deleting other full sections like his Wealth and Musk Foundation subheaders.

>In a January 2026 U.S. Department of Justice update on the Epstein files, it showed that Musk was in email contact with financer and child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein between 2012 and 2013, exchanging 16 emails. The emails between Musk and Epstein showed him at least twice expressing interest of visiting Little Saint James island, but it never came into fruition, with Epstein himself cancelling confirmed plans on one occasion.[1][2] In 2014 at an Oscar party, Musk and Ghislaine Maxwell were seen in a photo together, but no evidence showed that they conversed with each other, with Musk saying it was a "photobomb."[3] Musk has previously denied involvement with Epstein and called him a "creep" and claimed that Epstein “tried repeatedly to get me to visit his island” but that he had declined to do so.[1] Vocal on the subject, Musk has accused the Trump administration of covering up files to protect numerous powerful people, including Donald Trump himself.[4][5] During the highly publicized 2025 Trump–Musk feud when Musk was a Presidential Senior Advisor, Musk in a now-deleted tweet namedropped Trump of being on the files as the reason why they were not released yet to the public.[6][4]

I definitely don't think their email-only conversations of 1 year deserves a full subheader section like Trump, Clinton, and Prince Andrew's yet and keep it under "Personal life" for now if until other major DOJ articles come out, but still should be at least mentioned for sure. (talk)18:22, 1 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone fix this sentence? "Emails centered on Musk being specifically invited to Epstein's island, despite Epsteins repeated and continual invites he had not gone." I can't figure out what it's supposed to mean. ―Panamitsu(talk)22:47, 1 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Move @Twitter

You are invited to join the discussions atTalk:Twitter § Requested move 9 February 2026.Some1 (talk)04:27, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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