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Chipmunkdavis and I have different opinions on whether or not to use "Mainland China" in the article (see the above thread for further information). We would request a neutral, third-party opinion on the issue. --HypVol (talk)16:14, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is not the issue, the issue in question isthis edit, specifically the replacement of China with Mainland China within the bulleted lists of the infobox/lead, along with the removal of the text "(a name resulting from PRC influence on the bank)" in a section on naming terminology. Suggest closing this, and asking atWP:3O if you want a third opinion.CMD (talk)16:23, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The replacement was due toMOS:NC-CN, the Manual of Style that isa generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow. Plus, I know WP:3O, but the process of RfC is generally faster and can engage in more third-party editors. --HypVol (talk)16:34, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(summoned by the feedback request service) Would it be too unwieldy to use the fullPeople's Republic of China term as mentioned at WP:NC-CN? Would think that would remove any ambiguity. Since I doubt those trading stats are excluding Hong Kong and Macau, if they are that is a different question.SamStrongTalks (talk)17:40, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's a little bit over-verbose..but yes, I think the trading stats do in fact exclude Hong Kong and Macau; at least Hong Kong, which is listed separately as a trading partner.Firejuggler86 (talk)23:49, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Use People's Republic of China Let me set up an idea, all articles related to thePeople's Republic of China replace China with People's Republic of China.Because we can't be sure whether China refers to Republic of China or People's Republic of China.--36.232.246.234 (talk)18:08, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Use mainland China - CMD's notion that anyone couldpossibly be confused over the meaning of "mainland China" - in an articleabout Taiwan - is not evenremotely reasonable. Nor is "mainland China" POV: both Taiwanand the PRC consider Taiwan to be the same country as mainland China. They disagree only on who ought be running it. Mainland China is still mainland China, and while just "China" is fine in most contexts, when being discussed alongside Hong Kong and Taiwan, it isn't.Firejuggler86 (talk)23:44, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • With regards to "both Taiwanand the PRC consider Taiwan to be the same country as mainland China", I don't think so. As a wikipedian from Taiwan, I know many peoples in Taiwan consider Taiwan is a country, not the same countary as mainland China.--Wolfch (talk)23:10, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• UseMainland China with reference toTaiwan to refer to the large area of eastern Asia that is governed by thePeople's Republic of China. What is the question?Robert McClenon (talk)21:26, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • let me see.Regarding your question, if you want to express the opinions of Taiwanese, then you should be wrong.In Taiwan, Mainland China often refers toAntarctica.In Taiwan, only theChinese Kuomintang or the media acquired byPeople's Republic of China regardMainland China asChina.By the way, theChinese Kuomintang has only about 20% of people support in Taiwan.--36.232.246.234 (talk)18:39, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Use mainland China, per Firejuggler86 and Robert McClenon above.Idealigic (talk)16:16, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Use mainland China - I have to assume the dispute stems from the fact both Taiwan and China claim rights to mainland China, and both threaten to invade the other and restore the 'true' China. That said, the phrase "mainland China" is still a definable geographical area and has been throughout history, so there should be no issue using it in the article. Mainland China is part of the People's Republic of China. If you a referring to the country as a whole, the latter is more correct, but if you are referring to the geographic mainland of China (which seems to be the case in this article's uses of the phrase), obviously the former is more correct. ––FORMALDUDE^(talk)04:16, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• It depends on the context, if the fact or figure includes HK and Macao then we should say PRC but if it is specifically talking about China except for HK and Macao then mainland China does fit out current manual of style.Horse Eye's Back (talk)05:25, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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"In addition, Taiwan's economic inequality has been on the rise. Using a score on the GINI coefficient scale (on a scale from 1-0, 1 meaning the highest possible inequality), you can observe a country's economic inequality. Beginning with a value of 0.47 on the scale in 1980, economic inequality using this measure has grown steadily to 0.61 in 2022. It's believed that most developed countries sit at a GINI coefficient level of around 0.3."

1) This is too informal. I would change it to: "In addition, Taiwan's income inequality, as measured by the GINI coefficient, has risen from a value of 0.47 in 1980 to 0.61 in 2022 (before considering taxes and welfare transfers)."

2) "It's believed that most developed countries sit at a GINI coefficient level of around 0.3" contains weasel words (Who "believes" this? This is a measured quantity.).

It also mixes up pre-tax and post-tax gini. Most developed countries have a gini of 0.3-0.4after tax. The source provided givespre-tax gini values, and other developed countries also have values in the 0.45-0.65 range (e.g. US: 0.63, UK 0.46).151.48.125.180 (talk)19:39, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edited to add: almost every country reduces income inequality with a progressive tax system and welfare transfers. It is a mistake to compare one country's pre-tax inequality with other countries' post-tax inequality.

For example, the data for US, UK, China (PRC) and Taiwan (ROC) are:

BEFORE TAX: 0.63, 0.46, 0.57, 0.61

AFTER TAX: 0.41, 0.32, 0.36, 0.32151.48.125.180 (talk)19:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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While I am happy with Srapoj's delete of the "Economy by region" perWP:RS andWP:NOR, I am here to supplement some detail of "Official source cited in the previous edit by IP user says they don't produce this data": It was fromChinese Wikipedia:

敬啟者，您好:本人為台灣正式公務員，並非一般民眾，先以敘明。有關維基百科上所提到台灣各縣市gdp，根據行政院主計總處之說明，官方並未正式發布，網站上的數字全為民間自行估計，請參考下列文字。由於此並非官方數字，加上維基百科時常被大眾引用，這已造成官方之困擾。煩請敬啟者協助更改相關文字說明，避免造成大眾的誤用。先感謝您的幫助。

根據行政院主計總處說明，國內生產毛額（GDP）之編算所需資料甚為龐雜，包括生產、銷售、消費、投資、對外貿易等多方面；由於國內幅員不大，跨縣市生產或消費的情形頗為普遍，相關縣市別基礎資料的蒐集極為不易，在目前有限資源及人力下，衡量國家整體施政優先順序及實際需求程度，未編製縣市別GDP。網路上有關台灣縣市別GDP，皆為民間自行推估預測，並非官方發布正式數據。

Translation:

To whom may concern: This is a comment from a state employee of the Taiwanese government. The data,GDP in Taiwan by region, is unofficial source according to theDirectorate General of Budget, Accounting and Statistics. Wikipedia, frequently cited by general public with unofficial estimation, casued problems of the government.^[1] Please correct the text based on the following statement to prevent furture misuse. Thank you for your cooperation.

According to the Directorate General of Budget, Accounting and Statistics, recording GDP needs a vast and complex data set, including production, sales, consumption, investment, and external trades. As Taiwan being a small country where production and consumption in cross-county-or-city-level are common, it is very difficult to collect such data in a county level. With a limited resources and manpower, the government do not create GDP data for each county or city when considering our national policy and actual demands. Any data of Taiwan's GDP by county or city are based on private estimations, not official data.

Saimmx (talk)06:55, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And after taking a look, I found thatthe data is from Baidu Tieba with some calcuation of PPP and exchange rate. I deleted them since they are unreliable.

SeeBaidu Tieba for details.Saimmx (talk)06:59, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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