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User:Ceyockey (talk to me)17:28, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm trying to get some photos for this page and for theSiopao page. I have connections, they are just busy with school work. I actually have some Siopao at home ....Andrew Powell21:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Differences from Taro

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I never see Ube in smoothees at non-filipino restraunts. Its always taro. Why is this?

Reason

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This is because Ube is a very different type of food that is uncommon in the west. These "non-filipino" restaurants have not been welcomely introduced because of its diversity. It may be the fact of cultural racism or difference that it is not used. Ube is a harmless and delicious "vegetable" that you can enjoy at almost any filipino restaurant or oriental market in treats or deserts.—Precedingunsigned comment added by75.62.155.146 (talk)00:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Need to cross ref or merge

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This item needs to be rationalised with the entry underYam, seeYam_(vegetable)#D._alata.Earthlyreason (talk)14:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of arequested move.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was:page moved.Arbitrarily0 (talk)20:30, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


UbePurple yamPurple yam — page name should be changed to taxonomy name per WPMOS.Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk)15:03, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. "Ube" is not the name universally used in English. Purple yam is common in a few other countries besides the Philippines and it is not called "ube" there. --Polaron |Talk14:59, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of arequested move.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

As Invasive exotic

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I would like to add that Dioscorea alata is an invasive exotic plant in the united states.

Weed problems

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Dioscorea alata is an introduced plant persisting in the wild in the United States in Louisiana, Georgia, Florida, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. It is also aninvasive species, at least in Florida.[1]

References

  1. ^[1] Dioscorea alata in the USDA PLANTS profile database

Stray comment from article page

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On May 2, 2011 anon user at Ip address 87.194.61.202 placed this comment under a link in the internal links sect. on the article page:

(There appears to be no information about ube or purple yam at the site listed above.)

After checking the site, the comment turned out to be correct, so I removed the link. Also removed the comment to here.Hamamelis (talk)10:33, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The request to rename this article toDioscorea alata has been carried out.

Purple yamDioscorea alata – This plant is known by many common names in English, "purple yam" being not even the most common, and possibly not very common from the references I have found so far. Please seeWikipedia:NC_(flora)#Scientific_versus_common_names for guidance.Hamamelis (talk) 12:25, 26 May 2011 (UTC)SupportDioscorea alata is far more common of a name for this plant, by a factor of 18+ according to a google book search of the two names.First Light (talk)14:45, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Common names should only be titles for articles, in my view, (a) when the species is well-known to the general public rather than specialists under a common name (b) when that name is clearly the most used of potential common names. The article makes clear that (b) is not met.Peter coxhead (talk)06:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Personally I'd rather have all plant articles under scientific names. Plantproduct articles should come under their common names, but in my view having plant taxon articles under common names is helping perpetuate ignorance.PaleCloudedWhite (talk)14:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And confusion, since 'real' common names, i.e. ones that are traditional and not just made up for the sake of having a common name, are often very local, and certainly national.Peter coxhead (talk)18:47, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support: No primary English name.--Curtis Clark (talk)16:59, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support.Dioscorea alata appears to be the more common name. Google suggests "Water yam" as a synonym, making no mention of "Purple yam" (with the exception of this Wikipedia article).Guoguo12(Talk) 23:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


I've moved the article as requested. It seems the article's previous title came about due to its original author(s) being filipino: "purple yam" was quoted as being the English translation of the Tagalog word for the plant,ube. --Hadal (talk)06:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Foliage pictures are wrong

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The photographs are not D. alata. They are another Dioscorea, likely bulbifera. This is a serious error and should be remedied, as D. builbifera is poisonous and should not be eaten, except for the nonpoisonous cultivated varieties.Ufdionysus (talk)01:24, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the picture. -- Obsidin Soul03:41, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Elucidating purple yam and ube

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Dioscorea alata is commonly white, and referred to as "white yam" and "winged yam." The population of invasive D. alata in Florida are all white. A purple variety exists in cultivation. This is one of the things called "ube". I don't know the origin of it and it probably exists in a wild population somewhere in its native range, but I don't know the frequency. I've been told the "real" ube is a purple variety of Dioscorea bulbifera. A purple type of sweet potato, (genus Ipomoea), with white skin, is also commonly referred to as "ube." That sweet potato is also known as the Okinawa purple sweet potato.Ufdionysus (talk)01:35, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ube orUbi originates from the word for the plant in the Philippines.Dioscorea alata is predominantly purple in its native range (Southeast Asia). It is one of the oldest cultivated root crops, and the white varieties originated from S.E. Asian cropscarried by Austronesian settlers as they colonized the islands of the Pacific. The Hawaiian name and Tahitian for the plant (uhi andʻufi) are still similar to the Filipino word. All of them are Austronesian languages. While the white variety may be predominant in N. America, its distribution there is not native.-- Obsidin Soul03:29, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anthocyanins

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Anybody know if the colour is due to anthocyanins?79.79.251.126 (talk)12:43, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MergeKinampay here?

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Kinampay seems to be about a specific cultivar ofDioscorea alata. I think it should be merged into this article.Peter coxhead (talk)09:12, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. I also agree with yourreversion because of the improper tone and the incorrect inclusion of the Okinawan sweet potato (which is actuallyIpomoea batatas). ButD. alata does grow aerial bulbils, much likeD. bulbifera and otherDioscorea species. USDA reports seem to indicate that it's rare and are cylindrical in shape inD. alata (but it's flawed as they only seem to describe the Florida variety).-- OBSIDIANSOUL16:59, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okinawa Beni-imo

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This articles states

   [Dioscorea alata]  is sometimes confused with ... the Okinawa sweet potato (Ipomoea batatas cv. Ayamurasaki).

However, thesweet potato article states that

    In Japan, both sweet potatoes (called "satsuma-imo") and true purple yams (called "daijo" or "beni-imo") are grown.

And theYam_(vegetable)#Japan article states that

    In Okinawa, purple yams (Dioscorea alata) are grown. This is known locally as daijo (大薯) or beniimo (紅芋).

The Japanese edition of Wikipedia also has a redirect from Beni-imo to Dioscorea alata. All of these statements are unsourced, but the first seems to be at odds with all the others. My understanding is that both sweets potatoes and D. alata are grown in Okinawa, and I've added this to the sentence above.Computermacgyver (talk)10:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Pronunciation of Ube

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I have updated the pronunciation of ube to reflect a leading/u/ instead of/ʊ/. All the sources I found online (pronunciation videos, dictionary sound bites, andLexico) all agreed on the weak vowel. Ube is also the name of aport city in Japan which does seem to be pronounced with the strong vowel, but as best I can tell they are not related, the name for the yam is a loanword fromTagalog. I'd be glad to see citations or info from anyone more familiar with Tagalog than I, but other sources seemed unanimous that I went ahead and changed it. There did seem to be variance on the latter vowel, so I added an alternate pronunciation for that.--The Human Spellchecker (talk)20:17, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion Regarding Notice

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UnderNames, there is the following notice:

This articleis missing information about wild relatives (D. nummularia, D. transverse, and D. hastifolia; progenitor unknown) [doi:10.1111/boj.12374]). Please expand the article to include this information. Further details may exist on thetalk page.(October 2021)

I'm confused as to why this is here, as this page isspecifically aboutD. alata, not the group of closely related species. Should this notice be removed?MiscGezork (talk)22:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MiscGezork: definitely in my view.Peter coxhead (talk)15:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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