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No, it's an unsourced Wikipedia claim, notWP:RS. I've never seen it called that in any of the searches I've made for parasites of any of the bird FAs, it's always avian malaria
"H. prognei" - its name suggests the Purple Martin (Progne subis) is affected by this paracite. Is the link to the "Delichon" by known infected examples or by well thought out extrapolation?Snowman (talk)15:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Reviewer:Sasata (talk)16:55, 12 January 2010 (UTC)Hi, I've signed up for the review, and should have some comments up in a few days. Should I assume this is FAC-bound (and comment accordingly)?[reply]
Incidentally, I'm going to be away on and off, so responses may not be immediate, but will be addressed eventually.. For some reason this page came up at GA2, despite being first GAN. I've moved it, but let me know if any problemsJimfbleak - talk to me?06:59, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am not convinced a House martin nav box is needed as well as a Hirundinidae nav box. I presume that the House martin nav box is duplication and that it should be removed.Snowman (talk)19:34, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's strongly advised for GT that there is a navbox linking the articles concerned, which the house martin navbox does, but the Hirundinidae doesn't. I don't think there is any MoS requirement that there cannot be multiple navboxes, and just having the Hirundinidae box suggests there are another 70 articles to be part of the GT! If you feel strongly on this, please raise on the project page for discussion there.Jimfbleak - talk to me?06:45, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The fact of the matter is that the Hirundinidae does interlink all of the articles concerned with house martins, so the house martin navbox is duplication. I do not know how you could possibly misunderstand the Hirundinidae navbox to such an extent that you think it does not interlink the house martin articles including the genus article. There are many wikilinks to other pages; "flies", "aphids", and "birds of prey" are all wikilinked in the introduction and no one is suggesting that all the these artictles should be part of the GT, just because there are wikilinked in the article, and no one would expect all of the wikilinks in the navbox or the taxobox to be part of the GT. I think that MoS would certainly require that an unnecessary duplication be removed, and I think that the house martin navbox should be removed. I see nothing wrong with entirely different navboxes being shown in an article, but I think navbox duplication is a problem. There certainly is not a single navbox template for the 17 articles fo the GT on the Solar system, or the 5 articles on the GT on the Asteroid belt, or the 8 articles on the Noble gases are in a giant navbox. Where does it say that the GTs should contain a small navbox with just the articles of the GT (or FT) rather than a more comprehensive navbox? If you feel strongly that there should be a small navbox containing just the articles of the topic, then please raise on the project page for discussion there that lots of FTs do not contain small navoboxes.Snowman (talk)10:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Despite their flying skills the Delichon martins are sometimes caught by fast-flying birds of prey, and they may also be infected by fleas or internal parasites." first and second half of sentences aren't related, and maybe shouldn't be connected by a comma
Split as two sentences
"The swallow family consists of" link for swallow family?
"A Polish study of the Common House Martin showed that nests typically contained more than 29 specimens of ectoparasite" species rather than specimens, I presume?
"widespread declines…due to factors including poor weather" Interesting, I did not know that weather was ever blamed for population declines. What kind of weather is "poor" for this genus of birds?
Swallows catch insects in flight, so if it's cold or wet there is nothing to eat, ove a few years this could cause a decline . The fact of the decline is supported by BWP too, but neither source elaborates on the reasons more than is in the article.Jimfbleak - talk to me?07:13, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
need accessdates for all ref with external links. Am curious to know why you don't use the "url=" parameter of the citation templates, and instead link directly in the title parameter?
I don't think that's correct if the ref is known to be an on-line copy of a "real" book or journal - I've never done it at any GA or FA (in fact I've just removed a couple added by other editors). I think all web-only sites have access dates, let me know if I've missed any. re the url, I don't know either - I've always done it thus, and it's no more effortJimfbleak - talk to me?07:13, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
suggest removing the month from the date parameters where they are present in the refs; I don't think they are needed to help the reader find the source, and consistency of presentation is desirable
"The swallow family consists of 74 bird species which typically hunt insects in flight." not totally clear whether birds hunt insects that are flying, or if birds are flying while they hunt insects
"As a group, the house martins cannot be confused with any other swallows." Maybe make the statement less definitive, as I'm sure plenty of people could confuse them :)
"A species is assessed as subject to varying levels of threat if it has a small, fragmented or declining range, or if the total population is less than 10,000 mature individuals, or numbers have dropped by more than 10% in ten years or with a continuing decline generations." Sentence needs tweaking, sounds run-on, and last part isn't grammatical
Ok Jim, I think I've done what I can. I don't anticipate any major issues at FAC. Hopefully this review will help make it a smoother ride.Sasata (talk)05:06, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Overall:
Pass/Fail:
It will probably be a month before it goes to FAC, since other commitments will stop me giving it my undivided attention before then, many thanks for your input and very helpful reviewJimfbleak - talk to me?05:57, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This was suggested at GTC. The problem is thatCommon House Martin is commonly known as just House Martin over much of its non-Asian range, which invites confusion. When I pointed that out, the suggestion was to have House martin (genus), but personally I think that's clunky and ugly, especially for an FA and associated FT.Jimfbleak - talk to me?06:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that is true for the other species as well. As long as there is one species, people will call it the house martin. What we have here is that the European bird is being promoted over the other species. The reason we have specified names for all species is to get away from that. --Kim van der Lindeat venus17:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand how using "Delichon" is promoting the European name more than using "house martin", just the opposite I would have thought. When the suggestion was first made, I asked the project, but there seemed little interest either way.Jimfbleak - talk to me?06:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree on changing the name to House martin. It would make it consistent with theCrag martin article about the genus although it's odd thatCrag Martin links to the species page because of the capitalised letter M. Perhaps, a similar compromise can be used by redirecting House martin and House Martin to their respective pages?Vctrbarbieri (talk)00:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Delichonmap.png is unsourced. It was based on another file which itself was "self-made; compiled from several bird books".IUCN has slightly different maps:
Northern House Martin: main differences in southern India, around the UAE, southern Saudi Arabia, in Ethiopia, in South Africa
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