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Proposed merger fromCrime index andCrime rate

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There's not enough here to justify three separate start-class articles that overlap almost 100%. Let's merge and look in future at whether any specific aspect needs a sub-article. --VSerrata 12:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC) See alsoDark figure of crime which I'm thinking is probably worth keeping as a sub-article onperceptions of crime statistics. --VSerrata12:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, just make sure that theDark figure of crime article is linked to in the new merged peice.SGGH13:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also see the couple of points I raised on theWP:LE talk page :)SGGH13:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Idisagree with merging the three (or four) articles mentioned above. While I agree thatCrime statistics should be the prime article, I think there should be separate articles for bothCrime index andCrime rate. These are two fairly common terms that each need explaining in some detail, rather than simply being buried in the middle of a large article that discusses many other aspects of gathering, recording and analysing crime statistics. --Cameron Dewe00:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think that if you put crime rate and crime index as sections you could clean up a couple of useless items. It would be easier for readers because a rate IS a statistic and items are "rated" in an index.Sutjo-18005 (talk)02:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article needs to be a bit moresystematical in discussing crime and criminal justice statistics with links to the several sources, it is not just a matter of merging but of restructuring. It is now too much focussed on USA, here some European input. (may, 2008)
  • crime and criminal justice statistics / properties and limitations
    • official data
      • international data compiled by UN and INTERPOL (and a few other governmental/international organisations such a OECD)
    • victimisations survey amongst population of several types
      • international comparative victimisation surveys (there are several)
    • other sources (not neccesarily on crime but on related issues) There is so much more to say on crime than just the things we put people in jail for
      • WHO on violence and murder (from the medical world)
      • Transparancy International on corruption
      • marketing data on reliability of business partners (strenght of the criminal justice system)
      • trafficing in and smuggling of human beings
      • terrorism
      • genocide
      • violation of human rights (amnesty international)
      • cross border organised crime
      • cross border environmental crime (Greenpeace)
      • crimes against animals (species dying out because they are hunted for their fur)

All these field make attempts to produce statistics, ans some are very successfull.


The UN crime stat link (http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/crime_monitoring_surveys.html) has stopped working. I am not sure exactly what content it originally pointed to so I can't fix it myself, sorry.Ttk11 (talk)20:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Crime Inxex

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The "crime indices" link just redirects back to the same page. It would be nice if crime index would be defined better, too.--76.203.216.147 (talk)15:49, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Footnote 2 (van Dijk) appears to have been "graffitied". The link is to a paper called "Criminal Victimisation inInternational Perspective". Do you have a way of knowing who made the alteration?78.86.166.221 (talk)14:39, 15 August 2011 (UTC) Nigel.[reply]

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Crime rate by population or time?

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I struggle to figure out the definition of "crime rate". Normally crime rate seems to be "crimes per population", but some dictionaries define it as "crimes per time" in an area. Trump mentioned Sweden in a speech - and in Sweden "crimes pr 1000 population" is going down while "crimes pr time" is going up. (See:Immigration_and_crime#Sweden). The articleList of United States cities by crime rate even lists "Crime rates per 100,000 people" - which I understand as "crimes pr 100000 people" . (?) Is there a difference here between definitions in UK and US, or do people working with crime and people working with language use different definitions?Markuswestermoen (talk)12:29, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Crime nationwide by race

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Would like to the facts about all of races that committed crimes like white on black, black on white, and black on black this is nothing to do with race it’s about the facts what race commits the most crime I know it’s touchy but the facts should be brought the attention of all races fact2601:8D:8680:8E80:58AA:E1DA:E6BD:3289 (talk)22:25, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Declining values, declining rates

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Might 'property' crime rates not simply correlate with the falling real value of property? Less costly, less valuable household goods make burglary, theft, shoplifting etc less profitable, and less attractive.49.186.96.182 (talk)22:49, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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