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  • I am thinking about merging this article with a larger article on theAmenhotep III mortuary temple - anyone object ?Markh 09:41, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
This is a good length on its own, and the Colossi are notable independent of the mortuary temple as a whole (because of the Greek/Roman interest). I suggest writing the temple article separately, then we can look at the two to see how they would relate.Stan12:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
OK - will do!Markh 14:27, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

...in a seated position. His hands resting on his knees... And not: ... in a seated position. his hands resting on his knees ...

What is right 18 or 21 meters?

Exact coordinates are 25°43'13.78"N 32°36'37.46"E (Coordinates in WikiMapia are not exact) (borini@neobee.net)

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For someone better versed than myself, a conversion of 'ha' into some English unit (I don't know the wiki standard) as well as perhaps some reference to the inscriptions of Roman legionaries in the stone. That's how I found the article.Sammermpc (talk)19:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please seehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Merlin-UK for some higher res photos—Precedingunsigned comment added by87.102.91.145 (talk)19:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The original Greek name?

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Could someone please add "Colossi of Memnon" in ancient Greek?—Precedingunsigned comment added by97.117.246.172 (talk)18:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sound

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Deleted as copyvio, but[1] might help.Dougweller (talk)07:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I left a message on thetalk page of the user who originally added the section, asking him where the text came from.JudgeDeadd (talk)20:49, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, and the links in the message you sent were dead. I am NOT a member of Flickr or whatever it is, have never visited the site and have NO interest in it whatsoever, My source (which has been removed) was given in the references: my personal copy of Rupert Gould's Enigmas (with a copyright date of 1929)- not some social media crap.CFLeon (talk)18:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think a copyright violation was suspected becausethe Flickr page linked had a date "January 31, 2007", earlier than the date of CFleon's edits (2009). (It actually says "Taken on January 31, 2007", but I don't know if it means it waspublished in Flickr on that date.) However, I think it's more likely that the Flickr user edited the photo description later and copied text from the Wikipedia article--including CFLeon's contributions. Especially since most of the photo description is obviously a copy of the Wikipedia article, and I doubt the Flickr user wrote all this text himself just to use it as a description for one of many photos in his profile. If nobody has any objections, I'll restore the deleted text and sources.JudgeDeadd (talk)23:52, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Restored.JudgeDeadd (talk)11:52, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone think it's ironic that another website can steal my contribution and then some one complains that I've violated my OWN writing? It was very telling that along with the section removal (and the whole section was removed, not just the phrasing used) the source given was ALSO removed from the page. How in-TER-esting...CFLeon (talk)21:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Did the 27 BCE earthquake actually occur?

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"During the first half ol the twentieth century, many seismic catalogue* included information about the earthquake in 27 B.C based on the Strabo's report about destruction ol the northern colossus (Sic berg. 1932). However, the exact date. Intensity, anil size or that destructive impact had been argued tor a long time.Ambrose ys ct al. (I994i determined the earthquake of 27 B l as .» false event, referring to Quatrcmerc <IS45t. and attributed destruction ol the northern Mem non Colossus to deliberate mutilation by Persian*, and the damage in Thebe* in 27 B.C to a revolt of local population against Rome This suggestion by Ambruscys and his colleagues has led to cvclucton o: the earthquake of 27 B.C. from the main international catalogue* of historical seismicity. Some authors (Abdcl-Monem el al.. 2004; Casciati ami Borya, 2001; llaggag et al.. 2008) still identify an earthquake near l.uxor In 27 B.C"[2]Ancient Earthquakes (Special Paper (Geological Society of America))Oct 2010 edited by M. SintubinDougweller (talk)15:06, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Transport of the Colossi

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The debate on how the the statues were tranported is not as cut and dried as this article implies, there is a significant body of expert opinion that they were floated down the Nile on large barges-Hatshepsut had transported huge obelisks on these types of vessels.

The Colossi of Memnon Revisited. R. F. Heizer, F. Stross, T. R. Hester, A. Albee, I. Perlman, F. Asaro and H. Bowman. Science, New Series, Vol. 182, No. 4118 (Dec. 21, 1973) p 1220.

'No contemporary record exists whichtells us how the two 720-ton sculptureswere brought from the quarry to Thebesnor in what state of completion theywere when they were moved. The statuesmust have either been loaded onheavy sledges and dragged on land, orplaced on a barge and towed on theriver. River transport for such a longdistance was almost certainly the meansby which the two great statues weremoved.Queen Hatshepsut's temple atDeir el Bahri, about 2 km northwestof the colossi, has a low-relief carvingshowing two obelisks, weighing together700 tons, attached to dragging sledges,and lying base to base on thedeck of a big lighter.'

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"The Colossi of Memnon and Egyptian barges"The International Journal of Nautical Archaeology and Underwater Exploration (1988) 17.4: 295-310— Precedingunsigned comment added byShroton (talkcontribs)09:34, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

At some point the two Colossi would have had to been put on a ship as the quarry is on the east bank and they were set up on the west bank.https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-p/1a/f2/fc/f7/map-to-luxor-art-gallery.jpg— Precedingunsigned comment added byHanslune (talkcontribs)01:15, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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