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This description, writ before i looked for the article [blush] may have an element or two that should be folded in:
Tho IMO the P-38 supports its separate article, it deserves a little more than a see-also ref in this one.
More pix of can openers would be good, especially these kinds:
The gear-and-tooth pliers style would also be worth the space IMO.--Jerzy (t) 03:16, 2005 May 5 (UTC)
A bayonet tin opener is the one where you stab the tin lid near the edge and work around - they are not very common, but they are very robust and do not break. On the other hand they leave an ugly irregular opening. They have no moving parts.
All-metal 'top-down' openers are also common where I live. They cut down into the lid, rather than into the side of the can near the lids. I do not know what name they have. Instead of having a rotating circular blade like more recent openers, they just have a non-moving small 'plough' that splits the metal.
I am aggrevied that I have to keep buying a new can opener every few weeks. In particular, they are often damaged when I try to open those small oblong sardine cans. Reasons why they stop working:
Even my reliable bayonet opener is starting to get blunt, so stabbing the can has become more difficult.
This is a list of all the different types of tin opener I can remember ever seeing or using:
I would be willing to pay a lot for an opener that lasted for years, not weeks.81.104.12.1001:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, the "most popular" can openers listed in the article are just the most popular among the manufacturers, since they break so often.—Precedingunsigned comment added by206.188.66.195 (talk)20:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
must be very bad quality then, or you're using them wrong. i have never experienced a canopener (one wheel for grip and the other for cutting the lid) breaking. the only reason to replace them is that they tend to get a bit rusty after 5 or 10 years.80.127.244.232 (talk)21:13, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I believe a "can opener" in ice hockey is when you stick your stick between somebody's legs and trip them. As there is a section for military slang, should this be included as well?Canking (talk)19:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article seems biased by the gallery of rotary butterfly openers, as if the can openers often seen in classic cartoons don't exist or something.70.55.203.112 (talk)09:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The end of the article mentions side-cutting can openers, but only mentions the kind that cuts into the rim, so as to leave no sharp edges, but there are other can openers which cut just under the rim, cutting the whole lid and its rim off, leaving a sharp edge all around the can, but not the lid. The designs of these look nearly identical to the others, but for a very slight change in blade position. - Blueguy65.0.209.205 (talk)06:15, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Side cutting openers are "underesteemed" here. They work cleanly, without a blade or cutter touching can contents. This is (1) hygenically preferable, and (2) it leaves the cutter clean at all times. The operation is well controlled (see the fine transport wheel), no lid "jumps out" splattering content when finally freed. Newer side cutters have a pinch formable by the handles to grab the lid when opened like tweezers, see patenthttp://www.google.com/patents/US6058613 (year 2000) part 70 versus part 72. Technically interesting: the axis of the cutting wheel not to be in parallel to the transport axis, some 15° make the cutter stay "on top" of the rim, like a front car tire trying to get onto the sidewalk but never making it … See (advertizing) video at Youtube OpVrBnDnt74. –Fritz Jörn (talk)07:52, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Insert this new type - a little strange, but very functional, easy-going and total safe:http://www.house-ware.de/media/catalog/product/o/r/orange-orange.jpg—Precedingunsigned comment added by188.46.217.137 (talk)17:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Somewhere in this article about Can Openers, there should be a section describing the different metals used, historically, and currently. Different metals used. Descriptions for the different metals. (Example: Dulls faster, rust resistant, etc).— Precedingunsigned comment added byFrankga123 (talk •contribs)23:58, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
None of the images in the "Church key" section represents the classic "church key" bottle opener. The original church key design is made of heavy wire, and a Coca-Cola branded version from Germany can be seen atFile:-_Coca-Cola_-_Old_bottle_opener_-.jpg. It superficially resembles an old-style door key and pre-dates by years the combination can piercer/bottle cap opener on which the section dwells excessively. — QuicksilverT@21:16, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There should be a brief section on the can openers found on Swiss army knives and multi-tools. I'm not even sure what style of can opener that would be; of the ones on this page, it's probably closest to the P-38, though isn't there another style of one-piece can opener that you work around the rim that's basically the same as on a Swiss army knife?MrBook (talk)17:16, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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RE: "A new style of the can opener emerged in the 1980s...."This is incorrect.Edwin Anderson's opener removed the entire lid:
Star / Star Can Opener Co., San Francisco, CA / can opener / patent 1360256 Nov 30 1920 & 1528178 Mar 3 1925 & 1598841 Sep 7 1926 Edwin Anderson / see also Turner & Semour /
The same can opener was also manufactured by Turner & Seymour Co. as the “STAR” brand can opener, stamped with all three of the above patent numbers.
In addition to the aforementioned can opener, Turner & Seymour manufactured a number of other items.
Turner / Turner & Seymour, 100 Lawton St., Torrington, CT 06790 / est. 1848 / "KING" can opener, combination corkscrew, "STAR" brand hardware & tools / patent 1360256 Nov 30 1920 & 1528178 Mar 3 1925 & 1598841 Sep 7 1926 Edwin Anderson & 541034 Jun 11 1895 William G. Browne & patent 896577 Aug 18 1908 C.W. Reynolds /https://mycompanies.fandom.com/wiki/Turner_%26_Seymour_Manufacturing_Company / see also Star Can Opener Co. /
The aforementioned patents 1360256 and 1528178 were both subjects of a series of patent infringement claims filed by Star Mfg. Co. against several other manufacturers.
Star Can Opener Co. vs. Ace Mfg. Co. US Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals 3837 Oct 1926
https://books.google.com/books?id=AH3Xb3XpIYoC&pg=PP1&dq=patent+1360256
Star Can Opener Co. vs. Ace Mfg. Co. 22d F.2d. 977 Dec 13 1927
https://cite.case.law/f2d/22/977/1709816/
Star Can Opener Co. vs. Bunker-Clancey Mfg. Co. 8772 Jul 18 1930
https://casetext.com/case/star-can-opener-co-v-bunker-clancey-mfg-co
These two European patents were issued prior to Anderson’s first patent, but neither of them were ever manufactured. They were used as evidence in the cases above:
Weigel patent (DE 282768) (plaintiffs exhibit) pp 26
Wolfer patent 1024543 (plaintiffs exhibit )
Cheers!Skimohawk (talk)01:16, 26 February 2023 (UTC)skimohawk[reply]
the first star roller can opener, from 1853, saw the date on the side! first can opener, way before that! sometimes the truth will get out there! its much like the Sad Irons, some think they were made in the beging of the 1800s early! false, they were being made in Sweedon, 1648! by Husqvarna! called coal irons, and then later iron plugs put inside and could be rotated for longer use! Robert Hall68.189.32.249 (talk)04:22, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Over the past 20 years a majority of can openers -- both manual and electric -- have abandoned the "rotating cutting wheel" in favor of a fixed sharp "tooth" style blade. The tooth-cutter is not as efficient as the cutting wheel, it doesn't make as smooth an edge, and it wears out faster -- but it's cheaper for the manufacturer. The end result is that maybe 90% of modern can openers do not work as well as their counterparts of 20-30 years ago did. If you look at the dozens of electric can openers currently available on Amazon, you will be hard-pressed to find more than one or two that still use a cuttingwheel.— Precedingunsigned comment added by74.95.43.253 (talk)21:46, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why are the patent NUMBERS not cited in articles discussing patented items?USPTO is available to the public - free of charge. So why are the patent NUMBERS not cited in this article?The venerable "P38" was invented by one Mr. John W. Speaker:patent 2413528 Dec 31 1946 & RE22934 Nov 11 1947 John W. Speakerit was manufactured by KoolAire of St. Paul, MN, as well as Shelby Corp., Shelby, OH, and the J.W. Speaker Corp., Milwaukee, WI.more:Star / Star Can Opener Co., San Francisco, CA / can opener / patent 1360256 Nov 30 1920 & 1528178 Mar 3 1925 & 1598841 Sep 7 1926 Edwin Anderson / see also Turner & Seymour /
Turner / Turner & Seymour, 100 Lawton St., Torrington, CT 06790 / est. 1848 / "KING" "Blue Streak" can opener, combination corkscrew, "STAR" brand hardware & tools / patent 541034 Jun 11 1895 William G. Browne & patent 896577 Aug 18 1908 C.W. Reynolds & 1393412 Oct 11 1921 Robert Henry Waller & 1424960 Aug 8 1922 Robert Henry Waller and Granbery Jackson & 1451192 Apr 10 1923 Robert Henry Waller & 1834563 Dec 1 1931 & 1986657 Jan 1 1935 & 1986870 Jan 8 1935 Preston C. West & 1360256 Nov 30 1920 & 1528178 Mar 3 1925 & 1598841 Sep 7 1926 Edwin Anderson /https://mycompanies.fandom.com/wiki/Turner_%26_Seymour_Manufacturing_Company / see also Star Can Opener Co., see also Quicksafe Mfg. Co. /
of all of them, however, perhaps the guy who really changed the way we open cans was one Mr. Henry Vaughan:
Vaughan / Vaughan Novelty Manufacturing Company, 3211 Carroll Ave., Chicago, IL (later Vaughan Mfg. Co.) / est. 1910 / bottle and can opener / patent D44226 Jun 7 1913 & D46762 Dec 8 1914 Harry L. Vaughan & D170999 Dec 1 1953 M.J. La Forte & D143327 Dec 25 1945 Michael J. LaForte & 1207100 Dec 5 1916 & D177041 Mar 6 1956 John M. Grace & 1490149 Apr 15 1924 Harry L. Vaughan & 1617148 Feb 8 1925 R.T. Chase & 1715524 Jun 4 1929 H.L. Vaughan & 1996550 Apr 2 1935 John M. Hothersall and Dewitt F. Sampson & 2018083 Oct 22 1935 James Andrew Murdock & 2237418 Apr 8 1941 F.E. Fender et al & 2662280 Dec 15 1953 Michael J. LaForte & 2663076 Dec 22 1953 Ralph Robinson /https://www.madeinchicagomuseum.com/single-post/vaughan-novelty/ /http://www.bullworks.net/virtual/openers/package/vaughan.htm /https://theicca.org/wp-content/uploads/library/theincompletechicagocorkscrewstory/058.html / see also Crown Throat & Opener Co. /