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"Puma signed a for-year sponsorship" should be "Puma signed a four-year sponsorship"

I can't edit the page so I thought I would put it hereTimsmsmsm (talk)09:32, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, thanks!Firefangledfeathers (talk /contribs)17:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

EI is not a reliable source about BDS

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Per the RfCs, I/P is an area with significant bias for the source, and using them here is not appropriate. Please revert your edit.FortunateSons (talk)19:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FortunateSons:Joseph Massad is a subject-matter expert and would be usable as a source even were he self-published, perWP:EXPERTSPS. It would be wise to better familiarise yourself with our content policies on sources before proceeding with any more hasty removals of standing content.Iskandar323 (talk)20:09, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You’re right, I missed him, he can stay. What do you think about Alys Samson Estapé, is she involved enough to be considered aboutself?FortunateSons (talk)20:15, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bias has nothing to do with reliability. Making that premise invalid. And Alys Samson Estapé is the European coordinator for the BDS movement, making her also a usable source even if self-published.nableezy -20:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Could you elaborate on why that article should be included?
Bias is generally not an exclusion criteria, but a source with a history of both bias and poor reliability where it has bias is probably not a good fit for a place where it has such a significant bias.FortunateSons (talk)20:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Israel's strongly pro-Palestinian cultural community"

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I'm a bit skeptical of this statement and the sources it purports to be based on, which may be out of date. What is it even meant to be "strongly pro-Palestinian"? (t ·c)buidhe05:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Natan Sharansky's 3 Ds

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Natan Sharansky's 3Ds have been associated with the BDS movement. With repeated reverts of this point, how to restore NPOV?Allthemilescombined1 (talk)11:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have now inserted this material 3 times after reverts by 2 editors. I would suggest you cease edit warring and btw, 1R is not an allowance.Selfstudier (talk)12:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 December 2024

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The statement "Some of BDS's opponents have said that it has ties to militant organizations." needs to have a reference to back it up.User montu (talk)20:48, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done... It appears that the entire section that starts with that statement is full of references backing up that statement, unless I am reading it incorrectly. -Adolphus79 (talk)21:22, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 December 2024

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Regarding this sentence: "It quickly racked up over 700 signatories,[25][26] among them Colin Blakemore and Richard Dawkins, who said they could no longer "in good conscience continue to cooperate with official Israeli institutions, including universities."[27]"

The sentence is false because Blakemore and Dawkins did not endorse that statement. The Guardian article has a correction at the bottom to clarify this mistake:

"To try to clarify as succinctly as possible: what Oxford professors Colin Blakemore and Richard Dawkins endorsed with others was the call for Europeans to suspend scientific grants and contracts until Israelis "abide by UN resolutions and open serious peace negotiations with the Palestinians". We wrongly listed them as signatories to a separate declaration by the Open University's Steven Rose and others who say they "can no longer in good conscience continue to cooperate with official Israeli institutions including universities"."

I suggest you delete their names from the sentence.173.3.71.235 (talk)15:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed.Selfstudier (talk)16:17, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 10 July 2025

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Description of suggested change:Remove islamophobia from the examples of racism that BDS purports to oppose. Islamophobia is *not* a form of racism, as Islam is not a race.Diff:

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65.100.56.168 (talk)01:53, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish aconsensus for this alterationbefore using the{{Edit extended-protected}} template. Thanks for your suggestion. You’re right that Islam is a religion, not a race, so Islamophobia isn’t racism in the narrow, technical sense. That said, many anti-racist frameworks, and the BDS movement itself, treat Islamophobia as a racialized form of discrimination. In practice, Muslims are often targeted based on perceived ethnicity, appearance, or cultural background, which overlaps with how racism operates.

If you'd like to see this change implemented, I recommend raising it for broader discussion and gathering consensus first, as it involves a shift in how related forms of discrimination are framed.Dahawk04 (talk)12:48, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"I recommend raising it for broader discussion and gathering consensus first": this part they cannot do. Non-extended-confirmed editors can't engage in broader discussion of this topic, just post edit requests.Firefangledfeathers (talk /contribs)13:22, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 August 2025

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The article begins with the calling BDS “Palestinian-led”. While BDS is indeed often described as “Palestinian-led,” that phrase can misleadingly imply broad institutional support from Palestinian leadership, including the Palestinian Authority (PA). In fact, the PA has not officially endorsed BDS and at times has distanced itself from the movement, particularly in diplomatic or economic contexts.

I would suggest a less-ambiguous phrasing, perhaps something along the lines:

Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) is a nonviolent movement initiated by Palestinian civil society groups, promoting boycotts, divestments, and economic sanctions against Israel.Telecart (talk)02:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish aconsensus for this alterationbefore using the{{Edit extended-protected}} template. I don't see how calling the movement "Palestinian-led" implies that it has support from any particular Palestinian institution. It simply reflects that the movement is led by Palestinians.Day Creature (talk)06:19, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Palestinians are led, internationally, by their recognized leadership, is why.Telecart (talk)09:22, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
people explicitly say the word "authority" when mentioning the "Palestinian Authority".𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵)11:35, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes from activists are not reliable sources

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Much of this article, especially the "Jews and the BDS movement" section, consists mainly of quotes from various (mostly pro-Israel) activists and advocates with little to no context given, and then some opposing quotes from academics or experts. Not only is this not encyclopedic style, the use of quotes from activists as authoritative sources for views that support their cause fails reliable-sourcevetting. While these can be used to support the point that the pro-Israel side often accuses the BDS movement of antisemitism, that is very different from saying that BDS is considered antisemitic with no further context, or with the implication that these sources don't have a strong reason to say that.ElasticSnake (talk)02:06, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the concern, but I think the section accurately reflects that accusations of antisemitism from the pro-Israel side are a significant part of the public discourse around BDS. As long as these quotes are clearly attributed and balanced with opposing views, they serve to document the positions that notable actors in the debate actually hold, which is relevant for readers to understand the controversy. --GHcool (talk)19:25, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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