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Should the references to awen as defined by an online roleplaying group be transferred to a subsection for "popular culture" or removed entirely?Adamsargant (talk)10:35, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete on sight. This article needs some attention from someone who has written more than one research paper before. If I ever have time, I'll try to look at it, but not now and not very soon...RhysDdu (talk)11:56, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm concerned about the section on Neo-Druidism, where it suggests that the symbol /|\ was 'invented by Iolo Morganwg'... to my knowledge, Mr. Morganwg had merely compiled the beliefs of Welsh bards and so his work may have been only the first documentation of a much older belief. Is there another source which suggests that the symbol has no historical antecedent to support the statement that Iolo invented it? (also, for the record, I'm pretty sceptical about the interpretation of /|\ to mean Awen, when Iolo's compendium, the Barddas, clearly indicates the symbol to mean the three letter 'name' of God, OIU/OIW, who would be the source both of Awen and all the welsh letters)polygraphic 14:49, 30 Sept 2010
I don't understand parts of this article. I had to hit 'edit this page' to find out who/what the unnamed source was. ("A source notes that [ ... ] The same source also describes...") I think that could be a lot clearer. Is there a reason for not saying the British Druid Order rather than "a source"? And what is the culture in which Awen is a female name? Welsh culture, or Druid culture? It's not at all clear. --Telsa 23:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I would like to see some documentation that the Awen emblem is anything more than a modern logo for the British Druid Order. I feel the picture should be removed or at least clearly labeled as a modern invention- should such documentation not be forthcoming. --Magbhitu
All the second half of this article, including the emblem, is modern "druidic" nonsense and has no place in an article on an important and academically valid part of early medieval Welsh culture (theAwen - a feminine noun, by the way - is central to Welsh poetic tradition). This needs some serious rewriting. The purveyors of "Celtic Mist" have struck once again!Enaidmawr22:07, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to see some solid references to the origin of the symbol, as well. However, the 'second half' of the article should not be classified as nonsense. If it has a present-day use, it merits an entry, and I can't see anyone being served by splitting the article. --John T. Folden08:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps there should be a reference to the equivalent concept in Germanic thought, "Wod"... the two concepts are pretty much identical, and the Kelts and Germanics are closely related and had much interaction and influence on each other over the millennia.Aelswyth217:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Aelswyth[reply]
A reference to the Irish "imbas" would also seem obvious. 7 January 2008.
I have seen the english translations, as well as the latin and I have yet to verify the claim that "The first recorded attestation of the word occurs in Nennius' Historia Brittonum", in fact I cannot find the word Awen or Inspiration anywhere in the English translation.—Precedingunsigned comment added by24.155.185.195 (talk)14:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Latin text from Wikisource reads
62 Tunc Dutigirn in illo tempore fortiter dimicabat contra gentem Anglorum. tuncTalhaern Tataguen in poemate claruit et Neirin, et Taliessin, et Bluchbard, et Cian, qui vocatur Guenith Guaut, simul uno tempore in poemate Britannico claruerunt.
The words in bold give Talhaern's name tag in Old welsh 'Tataguen' (Father of the Awen) though some English translations would give 'muse' instead of 'awen'Crychydd (talk)12:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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