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Former featured article candidateArctic Ocean is a formerfeatured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination was archived. For older candidates, please check thearchive.
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Norwegian Sea

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Why is there no mention of the fact that the Arctic Ocean borders on theNorwegian Sea over a considerable stretch? __meco22:09, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As it is often the case on wikipedia, this is essentially "trivia for Americans". The fact that this article opens with a diatribe about the North American coast (the sea-land interface with the least interesting and documented history in the Artic Circle) is a big tell.— Precedingunsigned comment added by37.171.202.15 (talk)11:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article gives a definition of the extent of the Ocean but it specifically excludes "the seas within the Ocean". The article still lacks a proper definition of what constitutes the Arctic Ocean. Does it extend south to the northern limit of theAtlantic Ocean?—Precedingunsigned comment added by82.45.185.126 (talk)11:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That is theIHO definition which is, I agree, a bit vague. They don't define which seas are part of the ocean, but logically it must be theBarents,Kara,Laptev,East Siberian,Chuckchi, andBeaufort Seas. I don't know if there is any official definition that includes these. Also theGreenland andNorwegian Seas could arguably be part of either the Atlantic or Arctic Oceans - IHO doesn't define this either.Bazonka (talk)18:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I checked various encyclopedic and atlas web sites, and they differ as to whether the Norwegian Sea is part of the Arctic or the Atlantic Ocean. I adjusted this article andNorwegian Sea to note the dual classification. --Beland (talk)07:06, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disagreement with the IHO

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Is the IHO theonly official source for classification of the world's oceans? Waht about Natural Sciences Canada? isn't there an oceanographic body also? It doesn't makeany sense to me that what are clearly extensions of the North Atlantic, and farther south than some of hte North Atlantic (e.g. the Norwegian Sea), could be classed as the Arctic Ocean; this seems a common fallacy and it bewilders me that the facts on teh ground could be so different from what the IHO has decreed. Hudson Bay may be part of the Arctic Oceanin their classification, but it strikes me as copmletely incorrect; ditto theLabrador Sea.....Skookum1 (talk)06:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, of course there are some other sources, but the IHO might be respected as well. Regards.Gvogas (talk)16:29, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This article currently does not claim that theLabrador Sea is part of the Arctic Ocean, and neither does that article. I added references to a variety of authorities noting the differences of which ocean Hudson Bay is grouped with. --Beland (talk)07:06, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Volume

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As well, I can't find anywhere the volume of sea water in the arctic, surely worth a mention.— Precedingunsigned comment added by81.156.1.113 (talk)07:17, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

incorrect locations ??

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Are the locations for the Nansen Basin and Fram Basin correct. The description in this article is opposite of the locations shown on this map...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arctic_Ocean_bathymetric_features.png— Precedingunsigned comment added by24.101.250.87 (talk)16:57, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, Fram Basin is the former name of Nansen Basin. The description of Nansen Basin is vague, but as far as I can tell matchesNansen Basin and the map. "Fram Basin" was corrected toAmundsen Basin in the article. --Beland (talk)07:27, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New map

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A new map is available viahttps://doi.org/10.1038/s41597-020-0520-9 .TGCP (talk)21:31, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Very little on animal life

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There is very little on animal life. Which crustaceans are found here, which mussels and snails? Cephalopods? What fish are typical, and can they live under the ice? Whales, seals? Is there any fishing? Please add if you know. --92.226.3.13 (talk)13:41, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Geology/formation?

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I'd be interested in reading about how the Arctic Ocean originally formed, its extent during various geological eras, etc. Could a section be added on that? Otherwise a good article except for some of the climate change information which is a bit dated now.— Precedingunsigned comment added by70.195.202.107 (talk)14:45, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is now covered in the Geology section. --Beland (talk)07:29, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling variant

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This is improperly labelled as using Canadian Spelling. It uses American Spelling. The very first edit had the word "meter" not the Canadian variant "metre"— Precedingunsigned comment added by2001:630:12:1090:8c21:3e17:ed16:6792 (talkcontribs)08:28, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That 2018 edit changed the talk page to American, but the article itself was still tagged Canadian. Given that the topic is more closely associated with Canada, I think it's fair to leave it as Canadian English (and that's what the article seems to use in practice at the moment). I flipped the talk page tag back. If this is wrong, corrections are welcome, but if doing so, please flip both tags and correct the spelling in the article. --Beland (talk)07:35, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Article issues

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Hide excessive "External links" perWP:ELPOINTS (#3),WP:ELMIN andWP:LINKFARM. A discussion may decide important or more desired links to be exchanged, keeping in mind that this is not a parking space for links.
As a listed B-class article thecriteria (#1) states:The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited. Twelve instances ofwww.seaaroundus.org, that leads to a general information page, give the appearance ofrefbombing to bolster a class improvement. To prevent a possible delisting this needs to be looked at.

--Otr500 (talk)15:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The external links and over-reliance on seaaroundus.org have been fixed, but the article has also be relisted as C-class. --Beland (talk)07:38, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Ocean

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As Russia has longest mainland shoreline perWP:NPOV it should be noted and bolded that it is also known as Northern Icy Ocean, as it's called in Russia.ru:Северный Ледовитый океанElk Salmon (talk)16:32, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I dropped all the names in non-English languages from the article. These can be found in the language pull-down menu, as all the languages listed have articles on this topic. --Beland (talk)07:40, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's not about all names, it's about longest mainland shore holder. It should be noted in the preamble. As it's how it's called locally.Elk Salmon (talk)10:35, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Animation

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The first animated map is simply confusing. Could it be replaced by three small maps? The second map is a greater concern. It runs very quickly for a long time.Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility#Animations says:"To be accessible, an animation (GIF – Graphics Interchange Format) should either:

Not exceed a duration of five seconds, or

Be equipped with control functions (stop, pause, play)[13]"

I am not technically proficient enough to modify it so I ask another editor to do so.

Humpster (talk)11:54, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Citations for Trump's interest in an taking over Canada and Greenland.

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I have included several raw URLs as references for 21st century activity because visual problems are forcing me to drastically reduce my time with screens. I can write via a hard copy and manage some research. However, in the interest of contributing most effectively, I don't want to spend time fussing with citations. Therefore, I would appreciate any passing editor converting the raw URLs to proper form. Thanks.

Humpster (talk)04:42, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Humphrey Tribble. Have you seenWikipedia:ReFill? It includes a script to automatically fill bare URLs. I've filled in those references in any case.qcne(talk)10:59, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the tipqcne (talk ·contribs). It will be useful for me.There are probably other tools I'm not using, because I just don't know about them.
One of the "features" which gives me trouble is animation in articles. (See the previous topic). I flagged a few articles accordingly and discussed the issue. However, I encountered much resistance, so I have just been keeping a list of articles with non-compliant animation. Can you suggest some action I could take to get more attention to the problem? Even having a category for the articles I have identified might make them available to others.
The main problem I have with all of the above is that simply figuring out how to deal with an issue or template or policy requires spending time staring at a screen. One editor's response to my concerns about animation was "so fix it". I'm willing but can't handle the time looking at a screen. I also spent a couple of years, off and on, globalizing Transgender Flag. Another editor decided it was all wrong, apparently unaware of a world beyond the United States. In one day, my work was destroyed. Because I can't handle the screen time to defend my edits, I could do nothing but abandon it.) Consequently, I have been doing less on Wikipedia. I'm beginning to write new articles because that is something I can do primarily off-line.
I appreciate your suggestion.Humpster (talk)21:24, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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