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Sendero Luminoso never controlled 60% of the Peruvian territory. I think that if they don't add a source, that statement should be erased from the article(Alfredo elejalde19:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC))[reply]
I have reverted the heading "Peruvian Civil War (1980-1992)" listed by an anonymous editor. The subheading seems to imply that Civil War in Peru ended by 1992 which is unsubstantiated, moreover the prior heading chronology is illogical in the context of the Fujimori entry. --User:Bdean1963 19, October 2006
Additional revervison of edits by anonymous editor who appears to have a personal grudge, as well as a disdain for international Human Rights standards & the rule of law.--User:Bdean1963 19, 2006
Now to the main argument: I wonder how the government that abolished the mandatory military service in Peru is responsible for the "militarization" of Peru.Messhermit15:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Signing one's posts on Wikipedia discourse (especially talk pages) is not only good etiquette; it also facilitates discussion by helping those like myself to identify the author of a particular comment, and to address specific comments to the relevant user(s). I firmly believe that open, transparent discussion is a crucial aspect of collaborative editing as it enables us to better comprehend the development of knowledge. I am proud of my scholarly record and academic achievements, but above all, my unflagging commitment to human rights and social justice. As such, I hope the precedingunsigned comment added by65.2.103.216 will further the on-going debate regardingAlberto Fujimori's role in shaping Peruvian society, not to mention clarify the serious criminal accusations facing the former President--User:Bdean1963 22, October 2006
I formally request thatUser:Messhermit desist from making personal attacks on me and abide with the ban on making edits on theAlberto Fujimori entry, many thanks.—User:Bdean1963 23 October, 2006
As an American, I don't read much of theJournal of Latin American Studies (a British Publication). I readLatin American Research Review much more often. Both of these journals are very highly respected. I've noticed that a lot of articles that LARR publishes do call Fujimori a "dictator." They also usually have a footnote explaining the various recent works that have categorized Fujimori's power as dictatorial. Consequentially, I think it's legitimate to mention that a large number of leading voices within the Latin American studies community have called Fujimori a dictator. I do not, however, think that wikipedia should just unequivocally say that he was a dictator. It's such a highly contentious issue that I think just saying "Fujimori was a dictator" would subtract from this article, but explaining the entire debate over Fujimori's use of power, especially his creation of clientalistic networks, would add to the overall article. --Descendall00:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Messhermit is banned from editing this article. However, I believe that he is editing the article as65.2.103.216. The following are my reasons to believe this:
If65.2.103.216 andMesshermit are not the same editor, than I deeply apologize to both of them. I feel somewhat embarrassed to be the one to make such a serious accusation, but it seems to me that a wikipedian banned from editing this article may be doing so. --Descendall01:35, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
--Descendall I appreciate your judicious and even handed intervention in the apparent edit dispute betweenUser:Messhermit and me. Regards,User: Bdean1963 23 October 2006
This article appears to be in a state of near-crisis. I have formally filed my suspecions that65.2.103.216,147.70.124.59,74.225.187.18,74.225.227.204,147.70.153.117,68.215.109.135,147.70.153.139 andMesshermit are all the same person. BecauseMesshermit is banned from editing this article, if my suspecions are concerned I think we may have to delete the material added by all of those IPs. Please seeWikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Messhermit. --Descendall08:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Having a looked at the article, and reading some of the dispute on this page I have concerns. I'm particularly concerned about this edit from Bdean[14] which seems to reintroduce a number of unsourced claims, and a couple of sourced claims that overtly stress highly contentious opinions. Almost none of the present wording dealing with these claims and issues would be acceptable to me were they to be applied on the pages I regularly edit and monitor. I suggest that if editors want to keep any of this material, and judging by the action on this talk page it seems they do, then the priority should be to find multiple serious sources. And fast. Because theweasel word police routinely scour for such material, and can be ruthless in dispensing justice. That is my two cents.--Zleitzen03:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
--DearZleitzen, asAmerique wisely notes, all of us can help Wikipedia, “run more smoothly by adding more referenced content rather than critiquing and criticizing individual users.” Given you observation that you “regularly edit and monitor” Wikipedia, combined with your concerns about the veracity of the substantive content of the Wikipedia entry onAlberto Fujimori and suggestion that the priority of the editors “should be to find multiple serious sources. And fast…. That is my two cents”, may I recommend that you assist in advancing knowledge regarding the contentious nature of theAlberto Fujimori Presidency (1990-2000). I look forward to your constructive feedback on continuing the open dialogue aboutAlberto Fujimori'scontroversial role inhistory, and the continuedlegal challenges that face him. Regards—-Bdean1963 23 October 2006
--DearZleitzen, thank you for your constructive feedback. I agree with your suggestions that all unsourced claims should be removed, and keeping "citation needed" tags is simply “not good enough". Moreover theAlberto Fujimori entry would indeed benefit from a careful edit to avoidweasel words. Perhaps the talk page would be an appropriate forum to discus which terms or words have "the effect of, softening the force of a potentially loaded or otherwise controversial statement, or avoids forming a clear position on a particular issue." Given the democratic spirit of the Wikipedia project, I believe that theAlberto Fujimoritalk page would provide an appropriate venue to voice diverse points of view regardingweasel words. I do agree with you that the "citation needed tags" confuse the "generalist" reader, and you are right that the burden of "proof" for establishing such claims rests with the contributor. As you will note from my contributions to theAlberto Fujimori entry, I am not responsible for the information posted that has the "citation needed tags" (but rather the individual who placed most, if not all of them in the essay). Having said that, I do think a number of the unsourced claims may in fact be "true". I would be happy to try and find reliable sources to substantiate the claims that I believe are "true". I trust that you will do likewise in an effort to advance knowledge. I am a bit confused by your last statement: "We can also help Wikipedia by abiding by policy, and stressing these core policies on the talk page, can we not?" I would be happy to abide by the "core policies" and if I have violated any, I apologize. Any advice would be much appreciated. And thanks in advance for your counsel. Regards--Bdean1963 23 October 2006
mramirez500 Elections in Peru added to the article.
In response AAAAA recent edit of theAlberto Fujimori as well as the posting on my talk page: (There wasn't a civil war. I'm from Peru and the only thing that happened was the suppression of two terrorists movements by the government which were devastating the country. The repressions could have beens strong, but battles against terrorists were necessary to disarm them and capture them. Maybe the title of the section should be "Terrorism and Fujimori".201.240.239.22902:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]
201.240.239.229 thank you for your feedback. The fact that you “are from Peru” has absolutely no intellectual orepistemological bearing on theAlberto Fujimori entry. Similarly, I am aBritish Citizen as well as aPeruvian resident, but this has no bearing on your unsourced assertion “[t]here wasn't a civil war. I'm from Peru and the only thing that happened was the suppression of two terrorist’s movements by the government which were devastating the country.” I have had a long and on-going academic association with theUniversidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, and have conducted scholarly research on Peruvianpolitical violence (including the 1990-2000 period). On the basis of my academic expertise, I can assure you that the civil unrest and culture ofterror that plagued Peru duringAlberto Fujimori’sauthoritarian regime can not simply be equated with “battles” against “two terrorists movements by the government.” I concur with the findings of thePeruvianTruth and Reconciliation Commission thatSendero Luminoso,MRTA (Movimiento Revolucionario Túpac Amaru), as well as official andparamilitary agents of the Fujimori controlled State were involved in grosshuman rightsviolations. While thePeruvianTruth and Reconciliation Commission noted that the majority of the human rights violations andatrocities committed between the years 1980 and 1995 were primarily linked toSendero Luminoso, the final report is quite clear in noting that members of thePeruvianarmed forces were alsoguilty of destroying entire rural communities andextrajudicialassassination of suspected supporters ofinsurgent forces andbandits, particularly in provincial regions of the country, such asAyacucho, the central “jungle” (selva central) and theHuallaga Valley in the provinces ofSan Martin andLoreto. The extent to which Peru’s complex and systematic violations of basic human rights was equivalent toterrorism, especially in light of the contentious nature of the highly charged term, is itself eminently debatable. Your suggestion that “[m]aybe the title of the section should be “Terrorism and Fujimori’” seems to elide the extent to which theAlberto Fujimori regime was also allegedly party to acts ofstate terrorism, as demonstrated by the imprisonment of officials of the government, such asVladimiro Montesinos, and by the efforts of thePeruvian government to extraditeAlberto Fujimori fromChile, where he is currently in exile, detained from leaving the country while theextradition case against him is resolved. Clearly the civil strife andpolitical violence noted during the Fujimori regime (1990-2000) also involved the historically persistent problems associated withpoverty,ignorance, and the profound social inequities ofracism, themselves embedded in thepre-Columbian,Spanishcolonial, and subsequent development of “Republican” ormodern Peruvian social configurations. Fujimori’sneo-liberal approach to thePeruvianeconomy curried favor inWashington D.C., but this was contradicted by the unbridled growth in a voracious “shadow economy” predicated on the illicit trade in a wide array of items--including:coca, tropicalhardwoods,gold,pelts,petroleum andarmaments. No doubt the violence andterror observed during theAlberto Fujimori government was not a new aspect ofPeru’s recent political history, as demonstrated by the duration of thewar inPeru. As such, I feel it more appropriate to use the termscivil war when labeling this section of theAlberto Fujimori entry. I look forward to your thoughts. Saludos,User:Bdean1963 30 October 2006
Since when do murderous terrorists have rights? May god smite every briton who thinks he has the right to impose on every other nation. May Britain itself sink beneath the sea, you won't be missed.96.231.17.247 (talk)21:26, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You're right. Murderous terrorists shouldn't have rights. That why the terrorist Fujimori should've been executed. What a tragedy that this animal is allowed to continue drawing breath and wasting our air.75.137.184.182 (talk)22:34, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, we have IPs from Miami, Florida editing this page, such asUser:65.8.62.65. Every single one of the Miami-based IPs that had previously edited this page was identified by checkuser as a sockpuppet of Messhermit. This is getting exausting. --Descendall22:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please note thatUser:Messhermit has been banned from editing theAlberto Fujimori entry[15], yetUser:Messhermit has continued to make edits regardingAlberto Fujimori[16]User:Bdean1963 8 February, 2007
Hi guys, i am new to wikipedia, and certainly i have no intention to began a edit war as you call it on this site?. But i think this article it is a little bit unbalanced, as i can see one user has been complaining about it. How about if this template {{Unbalanced}} is used on this article?. I think if the reader sees this message at the bottom of the article and he or she thinks this article is not balanced may discuss its opinions here by clicking on the link to the discussion page, cheers :)--201.240.182.18023:18, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree withJmabel and suggest the {{unbalanced}} tag be removed.User:Bdean1963 1, January 2007
Never actually done anything with the talk pages before, but perhaps I'll get it right. I think this article is slightly opinionated against Alejandro Toledo, specifically in the second paragraph of "In exile" Whereas the first paragraph is balanced through careful wording, the second is not. Then again, seeing how one responds to this will give me a better point of reference. Perhaps it's not unbalanced at all by wikipedia standards.Korvan04:52, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A minor observation: it says he married Susana Higuchi in '74, but their daughterKeiko Fujimori was born in '73. I doubt both these dates are right.SamEV16:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
[17],[18],[19] are all pages that show that a large % of the people of Lima and Callao are in favor of the extradition of the former president with different opinions, not because they feel he is guilty of all the slander that Bdean is attempting to portray. Also both leading opposition newspaper agree that Fujimori enjoys 49.5% of support in both cities. Why is Bdean1963 hiding the truth and portraying only what he likes?65.2.165.10720:23, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Does anyone know what his nationality is? If it's Peruvian then how could he have been protected from extradition by Japan when he was living there? (Japan does not allow dual citizenship) Is there anyone who can shed some light here?60.40.51.18604:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fujimori is Peruvian of Japanese ancestry (parents born in Japan). After fleeing to Japan and famously faxing in his resignation, Japan made an exception to their laws in order to harbor him, as he was regarded by many influential and nationalist Japanese as a sort of brother in blood, also there were lingering feelings of indebtedness for his perceived role in liberating hostages from the besieged Japanese embassy in '97. And so in '01, then-Justice Minister Masahiko Komura declared Fujimori was a Japanese citizen. The media didn't follow it up by asking how that could be since he was Peruvian (and continues to be), the media in Japan generally cannot ask their government embarrassing questions. So, strangely, he is Peruvian and he is Japanese, even if Japan does not allow dual citizenship.RomaC02:48, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I realize that you're mostly Peruvians trying to write in English as well as you can, but try to keep the grammar as correct as possible.
I also recommend changing "en bloc" to "en masse" but that may be more of a style issue.
One thing is for sure this paragraph must be changed:Fujimori's privatization program also remains shrouded in controversy. A congressional investigation in 2002, led by opposition congressmanJavier Diez Canseco, stated that of theUSD $9 billion raised through the privatisations of hundreds of state-owned enterprises, only a small fraction of this income ever benefitted the Peruvian people.
You can't spell it privatization and privatisations in the same space. Standardize your English - either go American or go British but not both.190.43.195.15823:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The 1993 Constitution allowed Fujimori to run for a second term, and in April 1995, at the height of his popularity, Fujimori easily won reelection with almost two-thirds of the vote. His major opponent, former Secretary-General of the United Nations Javier Pérez de Cuéllar, won only 22 percent of the vote.His supporters won control of the legislature...
My knowledge of SAT grammar tells me that the boldfaced "His" is ambiguous: Whose supporters won the legislature, Fujimori or de Cuéllar? Pikalax 17:33, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
In the section "third term", there is a paragraph that reads:
"In the runoff, Fujimori won with just over 51% of the vote. While votes for Toledo declined from 40.24% of the valid votes cast in the first round to 25.67% of the valid votes in the second round, invalid votes jumped from 2.25% of the total votes cast in the first round to 29.93% of total votes in the second round."
So, let's review. In the runoff, 51% of the votes went to Fujimori, 25.67% of the votes went to Toledo, and 29.93% of the votes were invalid.
That 106.6% of the votes cast, so that can't be right. Anyone have a better source for this?Teekno14:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The "legacy" section of this article mentions "independent and technical-minded administration of public entities like SUNAT." Uh, we are talking about the same SUNAT that hounded members of the political opposition, right? --Descendall (talk)10:31, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In this section there is nothing about his arrest and trial. I know there is a full article about this, but the text should be a summary of all three, not just one. ☆CieloEstrellado01:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The section headlined "Resignation, arrest, trial" should cover his arrest in Chile, the extradition proceedings, and the two trials in Peru. Right now only the outcome of the second trial is mentioned (although the article's lead paragraph contains some information about the first trial).AxelBoldt (talk)18:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article completely omits the climax of the story. How did Fujimori fall from power?Cadwallader (talk)23:26, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the citation to Fujimori's speech in the introduction for two reasons:1. The information is incorrect since that refers to what Fujimori said during a different trial (Human rights abuses)2. That kind of details have no place in an introduction section anyway. And one could argue that we should include the prosecuting attorney speech as well.Calin99 (talk)21:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
3. Agreed, this section (#8) *is* unclear. I for one hoped to see how F. was careless enough to get himself arrested. I wanted to know about the two years, arrest-to-extradition. The timeline is hazy & thus I am left curious. (But thanks for all the good work done here :)
The paragraph beginning "The current Peruvian Minister of Justice" is incomprehensible. I can't clean it up because I can't understand it. Would someone familiar with the matter please rewrite it, preferable with decent citations? -Jmabel |Talk02:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't think anyone is especially surprised, but he was convicted of the charges and we know that an appeal will be launched and Keiko has promised to pardon him, if elected. Lots of editing will be required to bring us up to date, but I've started the process.201.230.127.183 (talk)18:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
So I noticed that despite the FACT thatAbimael Guzman was sentenced to prison, he doesn't have the criminal box. Same thing with other dictators such asSaddam Hussein or [[Luis García Meza Tejada] do not have this box. Why is that this box is here?Messhermit (talk)16:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If I recall correctly, a documentary made by one of Peru's TV stations explained that Fujimori hadn't actually been born in Peru, but rather he was born in Japan. However, since he was so young (still a baby), his parents managed to pass him off as if he had been born in Peru. Did anyone else see the documentary or has any sources relating to this?--$%MarshalN20%$ (talk)12:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
So what's the deal? The article says he's been sentenced to prison, but doesn't say if he's actually entered prison or not. Is he wearing stripes these days or not? (Personally I hope not. He was a great leader with some flaws. On the whole, Peru is 1000% better off for his presidency than it would have been without it. Not that that justifies what bad things he did.)—Precedingunsigned comment added by68.17.232.180 (talk)15:41, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This article is a fucking disgrace. The lustful enthusiasm for Fujimori's murderous economic fascism is palpable. I guess it's what's to be expected on a site administered for a dedicated follower of Ayn Rand.DublinDilettante (talk)14:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What I'm reading on this discussion is a bunch of people that ganged up (albeit 5 years ago) on Messhermit. Of all his mistakes, he wasn't a "wikipedian," and as a result was ganged up on. Instead of drawing on his personal experiences in a way that would benefit the article (which is possible without giving it a POV slant), several elitists either spitefully or unconsciously prevented him from contributing to this article. Granted, he went about it in the wrong way. So what's the result? The article seems to be slanted (even now, five years later) in favor of Fujimori's critics. Messhermit went about his changes in the wrong way, but his points were often valid. --Lacarids (talk)13:49, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reminder that capitalism is the only economic system which gives both prosperity to the majority without discarding of "unwanted elements" of society, unlike communism and fascism. Reminder that communism is a failed system and fascism has nothing to do with libertarianism, which is a system which enables people to be lazy and worthless if they want but not on the dollars of people who aren't lazy and worthless. Reminder that communists should be imprisoned to prevent another regime like the Soviet Union from ever rising again and liquidating tens of millions of people in it's quest for the perfect slave society.96.231.17.247 (talk)21:21, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Why was his birthplace and birthday changed to Japan and September 26th? He was born in Miraflores, Lima, Peru on July 28th. That is a legally accepted fact. Whoever changed this did it as a pander to politically motivated conspiracy theories which are not appropriate for an encyclopedia.
Dear fellows, I'm not edit warringAlberto Fujimori's page. He wasn't the 90th President, he was the 45th, 46th and 47th. There is a different counting. The English Wikipedia counting is wrong. Please understand. Kind RegardsBúfalo Barreto (talk)15:15, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In the biography ofAlberto Fujimori, he isn't the90th President of Peru. You see, I've reviewed all of the Peruvian Presidents, and there is a difference, the Constitutional Presidents and the Interim Presidents. The Interim ones are not counted with a number, only the Constitutional ones. For example:
42nd.Fernando Belaúnde Terry-(1963-1968): Constitutional President (Elected)
-.Juan Velasco Alvarado-(1968-1975): President of the Revolutionary Government-(He made a coup d'etat to Belaúnde's Government)
-.Francisco Morales Bermúdez-(1975-1980): President of the Revolutionary Government-(Velasco's successor)
43rd.Fernando Belaúnde Terry-(1980-1985): Constitutional President (Elected)
44th.Alan García Pérez-(1985-1990): Constitutional President (Elected)
45th.Alberto Fujimori-(1990-1992): Constitutional President (Elected for a 5 year term, but made a self-coup to his government in 1992, dissolving many public institutions, creating a new Constitution)
-.Alberto Fujimori-(1992-1995): President of the Emergency Government and National Reconstruction (During this short period, he signed a new constitution)
46th.Alberto Fujimori-(1995-2000): Constitutional President (Elected)
47th.Alberto Fujimori-(2000-2000): Constitutional President (Elected, but a few months later, Congress revealed videos in which his adviser gave money to the opposition (Corruption))
-.Valentín Paniagua-(2000-2001): Transitional President (After Fujimori resigned, the two VP's resigned also. In the line of succession there was the President of Congress Paniagua, who organized new elections for the next year)
48th.Alejandro Toledo-(2001-2006): Constitutional President (Elected)
49th.Alan García Pérez-(2006-2011): Constitutional President (Elected)
50th.Ollanta Humala-(2011-Present): Constitutional President (Elected)
You see, only the Constitutional ones have numbers, the others don't, because they were not elected. Since Peru became an independent country, there were Presidents who lasted 2 days, a week, a month, or even hours. I've counted the Constitutional ones, and in total there are 50. Of course, if you sum all of them there 94. That's the problem, in the United States there is more order than Peru.
The official counting is the one found in a documentary called "Historia de la República del Perú" in which lists the official an non official Presidents
I hope that you agree on my edits and make peace soAlberto Fujimori's biography is kept in peace. Thank you all, Víctor.Búfalo Barreto (talk)17:15, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I added the See also entry *Government involvement with the federal judiciary of Peru under Alberto Fujimori, but this could be part of the article text. Please help.--DThomsen8 (talk)11:37, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It says here that Fujimori holds dual citizenship with Japan but from all I have read the Japanese government does not allow this and one nationally must be chosen on he 18th birthday, it being considered a crime to be in posession of dual passports in Japan. As no citation was given I would like to see clarification or reference.... --APDEF (talk)02:01, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
He lives on the edge.Seriously, lots of things could of happened. 1. The Japanese decided to exempt him from that requirement. 2. He hides his Peruvian passport from the Japanese (unlikely) 3. He secretly renounced his Peruvian citizenship. (Also unlikely.)Cheers!Xsccmx (talk)19:24, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The Article is pretty Well-Done- a Real Masterpeice, actually- so should we qualify it for "Good Status"? It looks pretty nice, don't see much problems here...Dunutubble (talk) 00:46, 16 June 2021 (UTC)DunutubbleDunutubble (talk)00:46, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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I updated the page to reflect the news but it still needs a citation and more updates as news develops. ThanksHeydre (talk)00:26, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed a wall of references from the lead speculating that Fujimori was a "figurehead". A list of ten people speculating is no more persuasive than one; it must also be noted that Vargas Llosa is not a neutral party here, having lost to Fujimori in 1990. For the record, here is the material removed.
It was reported thatVladimiro Montesinos, the head of theNational Intelligence Service at the time, was the realpower behind the throne, with the backing of thePeruvian Armed Forces, while Alberto Fujimori acted as afigurehead president under the influence of Montesinos and the military forces.[1][2]
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In the 1990s, Peru was run ... by its secret-police chief, Vladimiro Montesinos Torres.
The coup of April 5, 1992, carried out by high-ranking military felons who used the President of the Republic himself as their figurehead, had as one of its stated objectives a guaranteed free hand for the armed forces in the anti-subversion campaign, the same armed forces for whom the democratic system – a critical Congress, an independent judiciary, a free press – constituted an intolerable obstacle.
Lester: Though few questioned it, Montesinos was a novel choice. Peru's army had banished him for selling secrets to America's CIA, but he'd prospered as a defence lawyer – for accused drug traffickers. ... Lester: Did Fujmori control Montesinos or did Montesinos control Fujimori? ...Shifter: As information comes out, it seems increasingly clear that Montesinos was the power in Peru.
Mr Montesinos ... and his military faction, ... for the moment, has chosen to keep Mr Fujimori as its civilian figurehead
Alberto Fujimori,... as later events would seem to confirm—merely the figurehead of a regime governed for all practical purposes by the Intelligence Service and the leadership of the armed forces
Fujimori became a kind of, well, a figurehead
Walsh90210 (talk)00:19, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This word is highly constested in economy and political science. The word is mostly used in pejorative manner and has modern usage that emerged from the critics of such policies/reforms. The editors of the article should consider if alternative terms such as "free market", "liberal" etc., may make the article more neutral. As a reminder, the fact that "neoliberal" is used in some articles in academic journals does confer it neutrality.Nemehuinco (talk)14:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As a reminder, the fact that "neoliberal" is used in some articles in academic journals does confer it neutrality....Did you mean, "doesnot confer it neutrality"?FeRDNYC (talk)07:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The date of birth is the 28th. Stop vandalizing the article by placing the 26th as the date of birth, this is widely debated and the media (BBC, CNN and Peruvian media) have always accepted the 28th.
You could put the debate in the body of the article.Dariodemh (talk)16:53, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alberto Kenya Fujimori was born in Lima on July 28, 1938, the second of five children of two Japanese immigrants. Also, please do not accuse editors ofWP:vandalism which has specific meaning on Wikipedia and could be construed as aWP:personal attack which I am sure is not your intent. You are just frustrated.S0091 (talk)18:51, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
