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Nominator:Prince of Erebor (talk ·contribs)08:08, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer:Icepinner (talk·contribs)14:30, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A big article. I'll see how much I can get done, given it's late in Singapore.Icepinner14:30, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, here are my initial comments so far. I will continue the review tommorrow.Icepinner14:55, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
HelloIcepinner! I know this is a long article, so thank you so much for taking the time to review it!! I have responded to each of your suggestions below and updated the article accordingly. Please take your time to continue the review, there is no rush! —👑PRINCE ofEREBOR📜20:21, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you,Prince of Erebor. I have added more comments, so feel free to take a look at it. I anticipate that the review will be finished by tommorrow.Icepinner15:34, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nearly done with this review. I will conduct the spot check tommorrow. Placing this nominationon hold.Icepinner13:29, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Prince of Erebor: Finish line is in sight.Icepinner14:08, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm satisfied that the nomination meets theGAN criteria, and shall accordinglypass the article. Congrats, especially for an article of this size! It was a fun read.Icepinner00:35, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
GA review
(seehere for what the criteria are, andhere for what they are not)
  1. It isreasonably well written.
    a(prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b(MoS forlead,layout,word choice,fiction, andlists):
  2. It isfactually accurate andverifiable, as shown by asource spot-check.
    a(references):
    b(citations toreliable sources):
    c(OR):
    d(copyvio andplagiarism):
  3. It isbroad in its coverage.
    a(major aspects):
    b(focused):
  4. It follows theneutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It isstable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated byimages, where possible and appropriate.
    a(images are tagged and non-free images havefair use rationales):
    b(appropriate use withsuitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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Lead

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Plot

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  • Optional:Before the Civil War Can we get a link to the relevant section? The Chinese Civil War had two phases, and Qiu's backstory seemingly took place during the second phase. There are two sections in the article, which are "Immediate post-war clashes (1945–1946)" and "Resumed fighting (1946–1949)". Maybe we could link it to the former?Icepinner14:55, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The film actually did not depict Qiu's death. He was already in the underworld at the beginning of the film and his reminiscences (the flashbacks) of his life ended with his release from labor. I have mentioned in the Conception section that the character Qiu Fu is based on the director's grandfather, who died in 1987, and it is likely that the fictional Qiu Fu also died at that time. However, since the film did not explicitly clarify this, I think perhaps we should leave it as is. —👑PRINCE ofEREBOR📜20:21, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Production

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Conception

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Pre-production

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  • Yes. Are you suggesting that it should be "both released in 1993" instead of just "both 1993" in the brackets? I am not sure about this, because I have seen other film articles usually just use (both xxxx) when mentioning two films released in the same year together. For instance,Priyanka Chopra:Chopra established herself with starring roles in the top-grossing productions Krrish and Don (both 2006). —👑PRINCE ofEREBOR📜20:21, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, fair enough then.Icepinner15:34, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Production design

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Filming

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  • No, it is an adjective referring to the composition. It describes a technique used to make backgrounds appear flat in contrast to the central characters in the foreground, most notably seen inWes Anderson's films. Perhaps the word "photography" is not that accurate, I have changed it to "composition". —👑PRINCE ofEREBOR📜17:31, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, what I was thinking lol.Icepinner13:29, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Post-production

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Themes

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Portrayal of history

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Sichuanese culture

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  • Unfortunately, neither of the plays has articles in any language versions of Wikipedia.Inn is a relatively old play and its playwright is unknown; whileWriting is byNiu Decao [zh], who has a stub article on zhwiki, but the article does not mention this play so linking it may not be helpful. Nonetheless, I have added the original Chinese titles of both plays (連升店 and 做文章) for readers interested in looking them up online, and here are theBaidu Baike articles about the plays[1][2]. —👑PRINCE ofEREBOR📜17:31, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Distribution

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Reception

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Awards and nominations

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Notes

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  • Optional:The Chicken foot god (Chinese: 雞腳神) Is there a link for the Chicken foot god, or is it probably one of the hundreds of Chinese mythology creatures that aren't notable for a stand-alone article?Icepinner13:29, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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8 sources will be checked. I note that some of the sources are in Chinese; I might be able to understand most of them, but may have to use Google Translate if things get too complicated.Icepinner13:29, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • [16a]: pass
  • [16b] query: The source says the Yi met Qiu at the YunFest documentary film's exhibition in the China Independent Film Festival, but the article saysYi Sicheng, a film festival curator who befriended Qiu at the YunFest Film Festival.
  • No, the source says that Yisheng was the curator of the YunFest Film Festival, and Qiu Qiongqiong knew him because he filmed documentaries and submitted them to the festival. (易思成原本是中國獨立影展「雲之南」紀錄影像展的策展人,邱炯炯因拍紀錄片參展認識易思成) I am not sure what you mean or what the China Independent Film Festival refers to. Perhaps you think that "befriended" is too strong a word? Would "met" or "knew" be more appropriate? —👑PRINCE ofEREBOR📜00:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, 中國獨立影展 literally means a Chinese independent film festival. It is not a name. YunFest (「雲之南」) is a name, you can see it is in quotation marks. It is just a description stating that YunFest is a Chinese independent film festival. —👑PRINCE ofEREBOR📜20:35, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • [16c] query: The article says that "their young demeanor was unsuitable for the character", but the source says that the "flavour" wasn't right ("如果找同輩川劇丑角來演,味道不對").Icepinner14:04, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmmm... Because Qiu Jiongjiong emphasized that he did not want to cast a person of the same age group (同輩). I have rephrased that sentence as: "as he felt the demeanor of actors around the same age as the character was unsuitable", what do you think? —👑PRINCE ofEREBOR📜20:35, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is true. "Transcending political ideologies" was mentioned well before Isha Ting brought up Brecht's distancing effect, and it does sound like asynthesis to combine them into one related sentence. I have removed "political ideologies" and rewritten that sentence. —👑PRINCE ofEREBOR📜00:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • [24c]: pass
  • [35/36]: pass
  • [41]: pass
  • [57]: pass
  • [62]: pass

Images

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  • File:ANewOldPlayPoster.webp NFC
  • File:ANewOldPlayBoatScene.png NFC
  • File:Leshan (16989556077).jpg CC BY 2.0

All good.Icepinner14:55, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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