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Lloyd Waner

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American baseball player (1906–1982)

Baseball player
Lloyd Waner
Center fielder
Born:(1906-03-16)March 16, 1906
Harrah, Oklahoma, U.S.
Died: July 22, 1982(1982-07-22) (aged 76)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, U.S.
Batted: Left
Threw: Right
MLB debut
April 12, 1927, for the Pittsburgh Pirates
Last MLB appearance
September 16, 1945, for the Pittsburgh Pirates
MLB statistics
Batting average.316
Hits2,459
Home runs27
Runs batted in598
Stats atBaseball Reference Edit this at Wikidata
Teams
Career highlights and awards
Member of the National
Baseball Hall of Fame
Induction1967
Election methodVeterans Committee

Lloyd James Waner (March 16, 1906 – July 22, 1982), nicknamed "Little Poison", was aMajor League Baseball (MLB)center fielder. His small stature at 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m) and 132 lb (60 kg)[1] made him one of the smallest players of his era. Along with his brother,Paul Waner, he anchored thePittsburgh Pirates outfield throughout the 1920s and 1930s. After brief stints with four other teams late in his career, Waner retired as a Pirate.

Waner finished with abatting average over .300 in ten seasons. He earned a selection to theMLB All-Star Game in 1938. Lloyd and Paul Waner set the record for career hits by brothers in MLB. He was elected into theNational Baseball Hall of Fame by the Veterans Committee in 1967. He worked as a scout for the Pirates and theBaltimore Orioles after retiring as a player.

Early life

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Waner was born on March 16, 1906, inHarrah, Oklahoma, and grew up on a farm with his older brother, Paul. The two worked from dawn to dusk every day, and baseball was their only form of entertainment. Influenced by their father, who was a minor league player in Oklahoma City, Paul and Lloyd's love and natural talent for the game developed over the years. The Waners learned to hit against corncobs and cut down saplings in the woods to use as bats.[1] Lloyd graduated fromMcLoud High School and attended three semesters at East Central State Normal School (nowEast Central University inAda, Oklahoma before going into professional baseball.[2]

Waner started his professional baseball career in 1925 with theSan Francisco Seals of thePacific Coast League, but he hit poorly. He was offered a tryout for the Pirates at the urging of his brother, who had been discovered in Ada by Pirates scoutJoe Devine.[3] In 1926, he batted .345 in the Class BSouth Atlantic League. He also won the league'smost valuable player award.[4]

MLB career

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Early career

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Waner broke into the major leagues with the Pirates in 1927 and quickly built his reputation as a slap hitter with an astute sense of plate discipline. In his rookie campaign, he batted .355 with 223 hits while only striking out 23 times (the highest strikeout total of his career). As the leadoff hitter of the powerful Pittsburgh offense, he led theNational League (NL) with 133 runs scored while only having 27 RBIs. The runs scored mark set an MLB rookie record.[5]Al López said that infielders of the era played deep at their positions, but Waner made them play closer to compensate for his speed as a runner.[3]

The Pirates won the 1927 NL pennant; Waner then batted .400 in his onlyWorld Series, but theNew York Yankees won in four games. He continued to bat well early in his career. He earned a record-setting 678 hits over his first three seasons (1927–1929).Ichiro Suzuki nearly came close to the mark with 662 hits in his first three years over seventy years later.[6] Waner finished in the top ten inMVP voting 1927 and 1929.[7]

Coming off a .353 season in 1929, he missed most of the next year due toappendicitis. He had surgery for the condition in the winter. Waner had difficulty recovering from the surgery and re-entered the hospital in May.[8]The Pittsburgh Press reported the fear that he might have to retire.[9]

Middle career

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He returned in 1931 and led the NL with 214 hits and 681 at-bats while hitting .314. Waner hit .333 the next year and finished 13th in MVP voting, but his average dropped to .276 in 1933.[7] Waner's average increased to .283 and then .309 over the next two years, though he did not lead the league in any offensive categories or place in the MVP voting during those seasons.[7] In January 1936, Waner became ill withpneumonia and his condition was initially said to be critical.[10] He recovered and was back on the field by late April.[11] Waner hit between .313 and .330 between 1936 and 1938, earning anMLB All-Star Game selection in 1938.[7]

Later career

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In 1939, he played in just 112 games and had 108 hits while batting .285 with 17 walks to 13 strikeouts. He played in just 72 games in 1940, batting .259 with 43 hits. He was traded on May 7, 1941 to the Boston Braves, who in turn traded him on June 12 to the Cincinnati Reds. He played 77 total games and batted .292 with 12 walks to no strikeouts. He played as a backup outfielder as a signee with the Philadelphia Phillies in 1942, batted .261. Waner initially retired in 1943, taking on a job at the Douglas Aircraft plant inOklahoma City; he asked the league to be put on the voluntary retirement list.[12] He returned with the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1944, playing a few games with his brother Paul before being released in June. He signed with Pittsburgh to close out the year, where he batted .321 in 34 games. He played in just 23 games of the 1945 season, collecting five total hits. In his final game on September 16, he went 0-for-1.

In September 1945, he asked team presidentWilliam Benswanger for his release, saying, "The old legs just won't hold up anymore and I'm convinced that I'm through."[13] He compiled a career .316 batting average, batting .300 or higher in ten seasons. He compiled 1 six-hit game, 2 five-hit games and 41 four-hit games in his major league career.[14] Waner was also an accomplished center fielder. He led the league in putouts four times, using his excellent speed to cover the spaciousForbes Field outfield. He recorded a career .983fielding percentage at that position.

He (2,459) and his older brother Paul (3,152) hold the career record for hits by brothers (5,611), outpacing the three Alou brothers and the three DiMaggio brothers, among others. For most of the period from 1927 to 1940, Paul patrolledright field at Forbes Field while Lloyd covered the ground next to him incenter. On September 15, 1938, the brothers hit back-to-back home runs againstCliff Melton of theNew York Giants.[15]

Paul was known as "Big Poison" and Lloyd as "Little Poison". They got their nicknames from aBrooklyn Dodgers fan's pronunciation of "Big Person" and "Little Person", which was then picked up by a sportswriter in the stands. In 1927, the season the brothers accumulated 460 hits, the fan is said to have remarked, "Them Waners! It's always the little poison on thoid (third) and the big poison on foist (first)!"[1][16][17][18][19]

Later life

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Plaque of Lloyd Waner at theBaseball Hall of Fame

After retiring as a player, Waner was a scout for Pittsburgh from 1946 to 1949. He filled the same role with theBaltimore Orioles in 1955. He worked for the city ofOklahoma City between 1950 and 1967.[20] Lloyd and Paul Waner both struggled with alcohol abuse. Lloyd Waner Jr. said that while Paul "drank like a fish when he was playing ball",[21] Lloyd's drinking intensified after his playing career was over. Lloyd Jr. said that the brothers would have been better known and would have enjoyed their later lives more were it not for alcohol.[22]

In 1950, Lloyd and Paul Waner lost their older brother, Ralph Waner, when he was fatally shot by his ex-wife Marie.[23] Ralph had been eating a steak dinner with his girlfriend when Marie came into the restaurant. Ralph and Marie both became angry. As they started to walk outside, Marie pulled out a gun. Ralph was shot twice, then struggled for the weapon. It went off one more time, injuring Marie. Ralph died a short time later.[24] Ralph had held numerous roles in organized baseball in Pennsylvania.[25][26]

Waner was inducted into theNational Baseball Hall of Fame in 1967.SabermetricianBill James has listed Waner as one of ten examples of Hall of Fame inductees who do not deserve the honor.[27] Possible reasons for his selection include his brother being a fellow inductee (Pirates teammatePie Traynor argued Lloyd was both a great ballplayer and one who played in his brother's shadow) and the inflated batting averages of his era, which helped many players from the 1920s and 1930s in the eyes of theVeterans Committee.

Late in Waner's life, writer Donald Honig asked him about a previous quote in which Waner said that he would have played baseball for free. "I think I would have asked for expenses", Waner reflected.[28] Lloyd gave up drinking in the last four or five years of his life and Lloyd Jr. said that "it was like having a real father around... I'll always treasure that period."[22] In 1982, Waner died of complications related toemphysema.[1] He was survived by his wife Frances and his two children.[16]

See also

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References

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General

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  1. ^abcd"Lloyd Waner"Archived 2013-05-16 at theWayback Machine.psu.edu. Retrieved 2010-10-10.
  2. ^"Paul & Lloyd Waner". easternoklahomacounty.com. Archived fromthe original on July 10, 2011. RetrievedSeptember 1, 2012.
  3. ^abKensler, Tom."Hall of Famer Lloyd Waner, 76, Dies Speed Was Game of "Little Poison'".NewsOK. RetrievedNovember 2, 2013.
  4. ^Parker, p. 52.
  5. ^"Lynn's magical 1975 ranks No. 1".espn.com.Archived from the original on May 10, 2010. RetrievedSeptember 1, 2012.
  6. ^Korte, Tim (December 19, 2003)."Ichiro signs 4-year extension".The Columbian. Vancouver, Washington. pp. B1,B7. RetrievedFebruary 19, 2025 – viaNewspapers.com.
  7. ^abcd"Lloyd Waner Statistics".Baseball-Reference.com. RetrievedNovember 2, 2013.
  8. ^"Lloyd Waner in Hospital".Milwaukee Journal. Associated Press. May 5, 1930. p. 35. RetrievedFebruary 19, 2025 – viaGenealogyBank.com.
  9. ^"Waner, Rajah May Be Lost".The Pittsburgh Press. May 14, 1930. RetrievedNovember 2, 2013.
  10. ^"Lloyd Waner Sick; Condition Serious".Spokane Daily Chronicle. January 21, 1936. RetrievedNovember 2, 2013.
  11. ^"The 1936 PIT N Regular Season Batting Log for Lloyd Waner".Retrosheet. RetrievedNovember 2, 2013.
  12. ^https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/lloyd-waner/
  13. ^"Lloyd Waner Retires as Player, Stays with Pirates as Scout".Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. September 22, 1945. RetrievedNovember 2, 2013.
  14. ^"Lloyd Waner Top Performances at Retrosheet".retrosheet.org. RetrievedApril 7, 2024.
  15. ^"Today in Baseball".Washington Post. September 15, 2008. pp. E7.
  16. ^ab"Lloyd Waner's Obit"Archived 2020-01-23 at theWayback Machine.thedeadballera.com. Retrieved 2010-10-17.
  17. ^Paul Waner - Baseballbiography.com
  18. ^"Introducing ... 'Tacoby Bellsbury'".mlb.com. Retrieved 2010-10-17.
  19. ^Parker, p. 70.
  20. ^"Lloyd Waner, Baseball Star".The New York Times. July 23, 1982. RetrievedNovember 2, 2013.
  21. ^Parker, p. 282.
  22. ^abParker, p. 291.
  23. ^"Waner Brother Shot Dead by Ex-Wife in Restaurant".The Miami News. Associated Press. April 1, 1950. p. 12-B. RetrievedFebruary 19, 2025 – viaNewspapers.com.
  24. ^Parker, p. 286.
  25. ^"Independent Loop Near Organization".The Pittsburgh Press. March 19, 1934. RetrievedNovember 2, 2013.
  26. ^"Ralph Waner Heads Training Session".The Pittsburgh Press. April 23, 1933. RetrievedNovember 2, 2013.
  27. ^"Bill James Answers All Your Baseball Questions", an April 2008 entry from theFreakonomics blog
  28. ^Honig, Donald (September 4, 1994)."Can You Imagine? Getting Paid to Play Baseball?".The Buffalo News. Archived fromthe original on November 11, 2013. RetrievedNovember 2, 2013 – via HighBeam.

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